What is the Kingdom of God?

[Eternally Grateful]

Yeah…. Let’s have NO sense of humor at all.

That’s attractive.

Being perpetually offended isn’t a good witness. It’s just not a good look for a Christian. It’s rather pathetic.

When it comes to people eternal destiny, Its not a laughing matter

Maybe you think it is something we should poke fun at. But thats on you

 

[Episkopos]

What I said went way over your head.

I did not talk about money or any financial thing.

I spoke of becoming spiritually bankrupt. Does this sound familiar to you? Did you become bancrupt when you came to Christ?

Before becoming a Christian...or after?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Before becoming a Christian...or after?

You think you are going to call out to God in total surrender in faith if you do not do it before?

 

[Ritajanice]

Sister, I believe the "yes but not yet" of things can be applied to what is being discussed. Scripture says All things have been put under the feet of Christ, but we do not yet "see" all things put under. If we apply that to ourselves personally....then there is room to grow in what we have received.....to apprehend/manifest what we have received but do not yet necessarily see and manifest fully. I hope that makes sense.

Hi Lizbeth..I don’t understand scripture like you do...no offence, I can only be led by the Spirit to open up my spiritual eyes and ears, to understand his word in the Spirit...

None of what you say above makes any sense to me..with respect...as long as it makes sense to God and you, as God speaks to us all very differently, to understand his Living word....he can only speak to us through his word...I always check everything out with Gods word...I pray for more discernment.

God Bless,Sis.

 

[Lizbeth]

Don't confuse progression in righteousness with a progression in holiness. The bible talks about instruction in righteousness...but no one can be instructed in holiness. One is either holy or not. One is either abiding in Christ, or not. One is either walking free from sin, or else walking in the power of the flesh. The flesh and the Spirit war against each other. When that is taking place within a believer, that one is not IN the Spirit. That one is outside of holiness...struggling to keep righteousness.

However, in holiness one doesn't struggle in righteousness (at least not until tempted by the devil like Jesus was in the desert) since that one is COVERED by God's righteousness so as to walk exactly as Jesus walked.

He that says he abides in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

People miss the depth of this because they assume they are already understanding the depth of the gospel by comparing their present walk to a diminished interpretation of the word that they feel justifies them. But that is a test of faith. Many will say on that day...Lord Lord...

We only retain a righteous standing with God when we remain humble and fear God...not lowering God's standard to what we can do in our human efforts. The temptation to declare ourselves righteous by naming and claiming is just too great for some.

What does that scripture I mentioned mean to you? Any time I have mentioned it, you have never addressed it.

Yes we are to walk as Jesus walked, in the Spirit. Each one according to their measure. And even growing into the full stature of Christ will appear different for each individual....there are greater and lesser in the kingdom of God.

And on the subject of faith.....the faith we have is already not of our own (for those who are born of Him and have received His Spirit). The Lord gave me discernment to see it was not of my own at the time i came to faith, I knew it came from outside myself so to speak, before I even knew that scripture. It was the free gift of God, a completely unmerited miracle. That is my testimony and witness, which agrees with the word, and nobody can tell me it was my own faith any more than they could deny Jesus to me. I just know that would not be true because I have personally seen and experienced and witnessed otherwise.

I was given a measure of faith, as the Lord willed, and I believe from scripture that God judges us according to the measure we have received. "The gift is acceptable according to what we have, not according to what we do not have." As we see in the parable of the talents.

But also, as we see in that parable, we need to grow in what we have received....apprehending, getting hold in real time of what we have received in spirit, as we obey/follow the Lord, until we hopefully apprehend/manifest the fullness of what God gave us according to His will. As we are faithful in a little, investing/exercising our faith, that measure grows hopefully into its full potential. Which is a different potential for each one. We are apprehending/bringing down to our "earth" what has been laid up (already imputed) for us in heaven. "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

The Lord may use different scriptures to teach each one individually, but I see this as that we are walking through the veil, following Jesus, who is our forerunner....through the veil of our own slain flesh nature, little by little as we die to ourselves. As per the earthen pot with fire in it that passed through the pieces of slain flesh in Abraham's vision. That earthen pot was Jesus and it also represents each of us. It is an ongoing work that the Lord is leading us in as we follow/obey Him, until that work is finished. Our faith is exercised as we trust and obey and keep following Him along all the way through to the end....to the death of ourselves.

 

[Ritajanice]

And on the subject of faith.....the faith we have is already not of our own (for those who are born of Him and have received His Spirit). The Lord gave me discernment to see it was not of my own at the time i came to faith, I knew it came from outside myself so to speak, before I even knew that scripture. It was the free gift of God, a completely unmerited miracle. That is my testimony and witness, which agrees with the word, and nobody can tell me it was my own faith any more than they could deny Jesus to me. I just know that would not be true because I have personally seen and experienced and witnessed otherwise

Now Sis...this definitely speaks to my heart,100% agree Amen!!....Praise God for his gift of Faith...so very precious...

 

[Lizbeth]

Hi Lizbeth..I don’t understand scripture like you do...no offence, I can only be led by the Spirit to open up my spiritual eyes and ears, to understand his word in the Spirit...

None of what you say above makes any sense to me..with respect...as long as it makes sense to God and you, as God speaks to us all very differently, to understand his Living word....he can only speak to us through his word...I always check everything out with Gods word...I pray for more discernment.

God Bless,Sis.

ok sis no problem....maybe meditate on that scripture and ask the Lord...or maybe it isn't for you at this time....understanding is in spirit and we're all in a different place along the Way. Bless you.

 

[Ritajanice]

ok sis no problem....maybe meditate on that scripture and ask the Lord...or maybe it isn't for you at this time....understanding is in spirit and we're all in a different place along the Way. Bless you.

Did you see my last post to you Sis? Wahooo Praise God,xoxox

 

[Johann]

ok sis no problem....maybe meditate on that scripture and ask the Lord...or maybe it isn't for you at this time....understanding is in spirit and we're all in a different place along the Way. Bless you.

This to your sister who apparently don't read the Scriptures.

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:
Eph 1:18 The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saints,
Eph 1:19 And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,
Eph 1:20 Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,
Eph 1:21 Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

Shalom.
Johann.

 

[Ritajanice]

This to your sister who apparently don't read the Scriptures.

If this is for me...I never said that....I am led through scripture by the Holy Spirit who brings it to my understanding ,he opens my “ spiritual “ ?eyes and ears to see and understand his word.

I don’t need to learn about God through reading commentary’s and following preachers...and post reams and reams of other people’s work.

I know God when I became Born Again of imperishable seed?

We need the Spirit to understand God’s word...not human intellectual knowledge..

That’s why we need to be Born Again?

The Holy Spirit brings us to understanding in the Spirit...Born Again is a supernatural event....that only God can do.

Of course he may be drawing you to Jesus by all that you read and post, but, no amount of reading can make you Born Again...only the Holy Spirit can perform that supernatural/ spiritual act...my opinion.

 

[Ritajanice]

Eph 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Indeed you can read about that,...you must be Born of the Spirit, to receive that spiritual knowledge....

For without the Spirit you are none of His..the wisdom God gifts to his children isn’t our wisdom, it’s God given wisdom....in other words it’s “ HIS” wisdom in us, as we are Born Of The Spirit?

We pray for God to increase all of our gifts that he bestows on us?

All gifts bestowed to his children...are used to GLORIFY!!..His Name?

I have the gift of Faith...which is Alive and Active as Gods word is Alive and Active...my gift of Faith Glorifies God...without the Spirit you are still in darkness and sin..that’s why we need to be Born Of The Spirit...then we have direct communion with God via the Holy Spirit.

 

[Mr E]

When it comes to people eternal destiny, Its not a laughing matter

Maybe you think it is something we should poke fun at. But thats on you

I think I'll call you and @Johann the Dynamic Duo. No laughing matters.

 

[Johann]

I think I'll call you and @Johann the Dynamic Duo. No laughing matters.

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You are ignorant of my culture-the Jews have a saying-"There is a time to laugh-and NOW is NOT that time.
Get off your moral high horse.

 

[Episkopos]

What does that scripture I mentioned mean to you? Any time I have mentioned it, you have never addressed it.

What scripture?

Yes we are to walk as Jesus walked, in the Spirit. Each one according to their measure.

No. The standard is not a flexible one. You think you can walk in your measure...but that is not the measure of Christ. Read more carefully...away from your self-interest. To walk as Jesus walked you need to...get this...walk as Jesus walked. Not how He didn't walk...as you surmise.

In your creative interpretation you have dismissed the high calling completely.

Imagine trying to buy something for 100 dollars. You give them 10 dollars and say that is YOUR measure of the price. Will any store be satisfied with YOUR measure of the full price? Of course not. Likewise unless we pay ALL we will have NOTHING of the fulness of Christ. This is not a partial thing. It is about holiness. Learn.

And even growing into the full stature of Christ will appear different for each individual....there are greater and lesser in the kingdom of God.

Yes...but that is based on how faithful we are to the calling. But one must enter INTO the kingdom to even be counted as lesser. The least in the Promised Land is ahead of the most advanced one in the wilderness walk.

And on the subject of faith.....the faith we have is already not of our own (for those who are born of Him and have received His Spirit). The Lord gave me discernment to see it was not of my own at the time i came to faith, I knew it came from outside myself so to speak, before I even knew that scripture. It was the free gift of God, a completely unmerited miracle. That is my testimony and witness, which agrees with the word, and nobody can tell me it was my own faith any more than they could deny Jesus to me. I just know that would not be true because I have personally seen and experienced and witnessed otherwise.

Of course. A sample of grace is not from us...but from the Lord. But having begun in the Spirit, will you now be improved into the higher walk? Will you achieve the fulness of God by an incremental process of bible study?

Of course not. It is attained by grace through faith.

So, ironically, you are trying to achieve by human effort what is a further gift of God....given to those who let all things go for His sake.

I was given a measure of faith, as the Lord willed, and I believe from scripture that God judges us according to the measure we have received. "The gift is acceptable according to what we have, not according to what we do not have." As we see in the parable of the talents.

But most will bury that talent...because of a lack of knowledge...and a REFUSAL to learn. Instead, go to God and get the full measure at the throne of grace. BUT>>>> that requires faith. And the sample of faith at regeneration does not cover the next step. That is the same test of faith that the Israelites had...who also failed in the wilderness.

If you want to understand why the Israelites were so lacking in faith even after seeing so many miracles first hand...examine yourself.

But also, as we see in that parable, we need to grow in what we have received....apprehending, getting hold in real time of what we have received in spirit, as we obey/follow the Lord, until we hopefully apprehend/manifest the fullness of what God gave us according to His will. As we are faithful in a little, investing/exercising our faith, that measure grows hopefully into its full potential. Which is a different potential for each one. We are apprehending/bringing down to our "earth" what has been laid up (already imputed) for us in heaven. "Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven."

The Lord may use different scriptures to teach each one individually, but I see this as that we are walking through the veil, following Jesus, who is our forerunner....through the veil of our own slain flesh nature, little by little as we die to ourselves. As per the earthen pot with fire in it that passed through the pieces of slain flesh in Abraham's vision. That earthen pot was Jesus and it also represents each of us. It is an ongoing work that the Lord is leading us in as we follow/obey Him, until that work is finished. Our faith is exercised as we trust and obey and keep following Him along all the way through to the end....to the death of ourselves.

Follow from whatever distance you are comfortable with. But the kicker is that those who claim to be something they are not will be rejected forever. As long as you are happy with your own performance, you will not understand the fear of the Lord...which is the beginning of knowledge and wisdom.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are ignorant of my culture-the Jews have a saying-"There is a time to laugh-and NOW is NOT that time.
Get off your moral high horse.

They do not understand what they are doing, they think everything is a joke..

Its one thing to joke around a little. But you can go overboard. and it becomes a joke itself..

 

[Johann]

They do not understand what they are doing, they think everything is a joke..

Its one thing to joke around a little. But you can go overboard. and it becomes a joke itself..

I have zero time for intellectual play actors-

FRIV'OLOUS, a. [L. frivlus, from the root of frio, to break into small pieces, to crumble; tero, trivi, to rub or wear out.]
Slight; trifling; trivial; of little weight, worth or importance; not worth notice; as a frivolous argument; a frivolous objection or pretext.

JEST'ING, ppr. Joking; talking for diversion or merriment.
JEST'ING, n. A joking; concise wit; wit that consists in a trope or verbal figure, in a metaphorical sense of words, or in a double sense of the same word, or in similitude of sound in different words.

joker


noun as in person who kids, teases

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Lot of zany wagging jesters-right?

 

[Ritajanice]

Galatians 5:22-23​

Galatians 5:22-23 KJV​

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law

 

[Mr E]

They do not understand what they are doing, they think everything is a joke..

Its one thing to joke around a little. But you can go overboard. and it becomes a joke itself..

You two should get a room. No joke.

 

[Johann]

You two should get a room. No joke.

I had you on ignore-you are going that route again.

 

[Episkopos]

How much of this modern name and claim religion is just "having a form of godliness but lacking the power thereof?"

Or else...always learning (incrementally) but never coming to the knowledge of the truth"?

Relying on the free sample of grace...in order to argue against the full measure of grace... is the most foolish thing in the world.