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What was tithing?

Discussion in 'Christian Finance Forum' started by HeRoseFromTheDead, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. Levi

    Levi New Member

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    Do you know Jesus already fulfilled the law?
    The law is already fulfilled, that's why we don't follow it, we follow Christ.
    There is no life in following the law, but there IS life in Christ! His life! Amen!
     
  2. HiddenManna

    HiddenManna New Member

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    Of course, but issue of the tithe is directly related to the issue of the law. If one is set free from the law they are set free from the tithe. That is the point. Those who pick and choose parts of the law to keep are in error, This is my point. Do you have a point on the tithe or is your only purpose to attempt to ask me questions that are already very clear?
     
  3. Axehead

    Axehead New Member

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    No, the tithe is connected to the Temple and the sacrifices and these no longer exist, therefore the tithe has lost its purpose.
     
  4. HiddenManna

    HiddenManna New Member

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    You do understand that the temple itself and the sacrifices where built according to the law and in service to the law? One cannot seperate the the temple from the law? Without the law, there is no temple or need for a temple.
     
  5. Axehead

    Axehead New Member

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    Sure, np. We are saying the same thing, coming from different angles.

    Law, Temple, sacrifices, tithe all irrelevant today since we live by His Life within us.

    Being led by the Spirit replaces strict adherence to the letter of the law. Giving from the heart replaces "payment system".

    100% of our heart and all we own belongs to God, not 10%. Cannot hold anything back if the Spirit of God is telling us to give more than the letter of the law required.

    We are not our own. We have been bought with a price, therefore we glorify God in our body 24x7x365.
     
  6. JB_Reformed Baptist

    JB_Reformed Baptist Many are called but few are chosen.

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    True. But now we have the SUPER SPIRITUAL. They forsake God's law-word completely for their daily exercise 'in the spirit'. I heard one chap say he doesn't obey Jesus commands as now he has the spirit and this spirit will guide his conscious and teach him all he should know. LOL

    So in this last day(s) we have replaced paper with electronic and God's word with spirit experiences and on it goes. B)
     
  7. HeRoseFromTheDead

    HeRoseFromTheDead Not So Advanced Member

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    That's a good point. I'm beginning to see it as the influence of a spirit of Christian mysticism, where doctrine is thrown out the window for the sake of unity, and faith is replaced with 'spiritual' experience.
     
  8. Axehead

    Axehead New Member

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    The Holy Spirit never throws out the Scriptures. If one is truly walking in the Spirit then he does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceededth from the mouth of God. Jesus and the Apostles knew the Scriptures and constantly referred to them, but at the same time they never denigrated walking in the Spirit. They upheld both the Scriptures and heeding the voice of the Holy Spirit.
     
  9. JB_Reformed Baptist

    JB_Reformed Baptist Many are called but few are chosen.

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    Absolutely. The devil isn't going to sit still in these last days and do nothing. He will as sharading as a 'spirit of light' deceive many and I think because of such a demonic stronghold many shall by way of idolatry(spiritual mysticism) and the like(discontentment) fall away.

    Faith without obedience is like the body without the spirit - it's dead. Obedience presupposes commandments to follow and faith really equates to not only a renewed mind but obedience(Holiness and Godliness in practice). Without the manufactories manual(word of God) we have no way of telling one thing from another and we are all subject to deception.

    Moreover, Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth(God's word) and bring that back to our remembrance as we commit it to heart. He also stated he(Holy Ghost) would NOT speak of himself but that which he hears. Ultimately, without the word of God we have NO guide and the Holy spirit has nothing to draw on, so as to instruct us.

    For it's said that in these last days "he has spoken to us by his son".

    JB :)
     
  10. aspen

    aspen “"The harvest is plentiful but the workers are few

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    Yes. This is a form of the heresy of Quietism. Any person who is totally consumed by prayer at the expense of obedience and actively loving outwardly though service is in spiritual peril, not to mention risking his sanity
     
  11. Rocky Wiley

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    The Levites were not given a portion of the land God had promised to the other children of Israel, instead they were to attend to the tabernacle. They were to have the cities and some grazing land for livestock.

    Lev 27:32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, even of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

    Num 18:26 Thus speak unto the Levites, and say unto them, When ye take of the children of Israel the tithes which I have given you from them for your inheritance, then ye shall offer up an heave offering of it for the LORD, even a tenth part of the tithe.

    This has nothing to do with Christian leaders receiving tithes. We are asked to give offerings as we feel to give, but not tithes. Pastors want tithes so they can have a fixed amount they know will come in. Not biblical.
     
  12. jiggyfly

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    I have known many "full time" pastors and most of them had plenty of time to work a secular job and fulfill their duties at the "church" and still not put in the hours of service as many of the those who volunteer their time.

    The truth is, that because the Christian religious system is man-made it must have money to survive and employ the carnal teaching on tithing to manipulate it's members into proponents.
     
  13. bibleknowledge

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    The New Testament strengthens what was said on the Old Testament. If tithing in the Old Testament was interpreted by many of us as the 10th of one's income or wealth, why couldn't we settle on the concept of tithing today as the portion of what our heart desires to give. What is the worth of giving 10th of your income when your heart is not glad at all. God will be happy to accept what we give, no matter how small it is, if it is deep from our hearts.
     
  14. Dodo_David

    Dodo_David Melmacian in human guise

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    Pastors in the USA are fond of talking about the giving of tithes, but do they ever talk about the biblical use of tithes? No, not to the best of my knowledge.

    The Old Testament dictates who was to be on the receiving end of the tithe. Deuteronomy 26:12 (NIV) says the following:

    In short, the tithe was a poverty tax enacted to make sure that the poorest people of the land had enough to eat. The tithe also served to provide food for Levite families because Levite men were forbidden from working in food-producing occupations.
     
  15. HeRoseFromTheDead

    HeRoseFromTheDead Not So Advanced Member

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    Where is that written? See post #7
     
  16. Dodo_David

    Dodo_David Melmacian in human guise

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    I will admit that I could be mistaken about Levite men being forbidden to be in food-producing occupations. Even a Melmacian can be wrong sometimes.
     
  17. jiggyfly

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    Levites were not given any land to farm or keep livestock.
     
  18. HeRoseFromTheDead

    HeRoseFromTheDead Not So Advanced Member

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    That statement clearly contradicts scripture...

    Command the children of Israel, that they give unto the Levites of the inheritance of their possession cities to dwell in; and ye shall give also unto the Levites common land for the cities round about them. And the cities shall they have to dwell in; and the common land of them shall be for their cattle, and for their property, and for all their beasts. And the common land of the cities, which ye shall give unto the Levites, shall reach from the wall of the city and outward a thousand cubits round about. And ye shall measure from without the city on the east side two thousand cubits, and on the south side two thousand cubits, and on the west side two thousand cubits, and on the north side two thousand cubits; and the city shall be in the midst: this shall be to them the common land of the cities. Numbers 35:2-5

    From the best I can interpret, this was approx. 900 acres of land per city for pasturing and crops.
     
  19. jiggyfly

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    Thanks for the reference CRFTD, I don't remember reading that passage before.
    I based my statement on Deuteronomy 14:29
    Give it to the Levites, who will receive no allotment of land among you, as well as to the foreigners living among you, the orphans, and the widows in your towns, so they can eat and be satisfied. Then the LORD your God will bless you in all your work.
     
  20. Trumpeter

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    Greetings all,

    I just came across this thread, hear what The Lord has to say about tithing.

    God bless.


    [Jesus The Christ] You also ask of tithes... Here is wisdom: Abraham, your father, gave ten percent of his spoils to the king of Salem, Melchizedek, and later a portion was also given of the tribes of Israel and to the Levites so they may serve God, and so it is today. Yet today, the voice of God is not with His people, as it was then, for none will listen. So give directly to the poor, as your heart leads you, for in serving God shall no man profit by monetary means, but shall profit only by that which The Lord God gives. And the profit God gives is true, and in no wise is it of men or mammon. For The Lord delights in that which one gives to another, in My name, and by the works of their own hands and feet in all righteousness... This is the tithe in which The Lord delights most. If one comes to you, saying, ‘Give me a cup of water’... Give them a drink in My name.

    If one comes, saying, ‘I need a shirt, for I am naked and cold’... Give them your shirt and your coat also. And if this same one asks, ‘Will you walk with me this far?’... Go with them double. So tithe not just of your money, but of your possessions, of your body, of your strength, of your time, of your very life, and you shall receive ten-fold in Heaven and in the Kingdom to come. Do this, and you shall really know Me and The Father also, for I am of The Father.

    Excerpt from:
    Receive the Lord’s Blessing
    http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Receive_the_Lord’s_Blessing
     
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