When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

[David in NJ]

You have not listened very well. Do you understand what the number seven signifies in Revelation? Did God mention seven literal angels here, bringing messages to the seven literal churches? Read my post again.



Do you know who this Angel of the Lord is? The Hebrew word for "angel" is "Malak" which simply means a messenger. Someone who carries a message. Someone performs some other specific commission from God, such as a miracle, and reprsent more or less officially the one God sending him. So who is this angel of the Lord?

Judges 13:18-22

• "And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?
• So Manoah took a kid with a meat offering, and offered it upon a rock unto the LORD: and the angel did wondrously; and Manoah and his wife looked on.
• For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.
• But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.
• And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God."

Again, the word is messenger. The great "I AM" was the messenger of the Lord, because His name is a mystery / secret. Selah! So this is the same "I AM" who spoke with mistress in Genesis 16:9-11 for God Himself is a messenger, "Malak".

The problem is that many Christians normally think of when they hear the word "angel", they automatically think about supernatural being sent out by God from heaven. But that is only because of Christian tradition, theologian's eisegesis, and long-standing church customs. But NOT from anything actually spoken about in Scripture detailing the mythical angelic beings. Anyone who thinks that is not true, show me! As in the Children of Israel whom He brought out of the land of Egypt, and yet they rebelled. The result?

Psalms 78:49

• "He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil [messengers] among them."

God sent no evil angels among them; he sent evil messengers, and they all died in the wilderness. Selah!

A human becomes a "supernatural being" in their spirit, when they are Born-Again by the SUPERnatural Spirit of God

God equates supernatural angels with people who have His Spirit = they are also called "elohim" making them "sons of God"

 

[TribulationSigns]

A human becomes a "supernatural being" in their spirit, when they are Born-Again by the SUPERnatural Spirit of God

God equates supernatural angels with people who have His Spirit = they are also called "elohim" making them "sons of God"

Time out. Geez...

Did you even read what I wrote carefully? The focus was clearly on the Angel of the Lord. Do you agree—or not—that the Angel of the Lord is God Himself, appearing as a messenger? In Genesis 16:9–11, it's unmistakably the Lord Himself speaking to Hagar. That’s the point.

But instead of addressing that you started, you suddenly veered off into a completely different topic—talking about humans becoming ‘supernatural beings’ or somehow being equated with angels through God's Spirit. What does that even have to do with the original point? Why are you dodging the real subject here? Let’s stay on topic: Who is the Angel of the Lord? That’s the discussion—don’t try to distract from it.