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No way!Would you consider eternal conscious torment to be justice?
Eternal punishment for a finite "crime"?
But a measured 'time out' to repent for the purpose of being reconciled to their Creator. Absolutely!
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No way!Would you consider eternal conscious torment to be justice?
Eternal punishment for a finite "crime"?
Here's how I see that working.No way!
But a measured 'time out' to repent for the purpose of being reconciled to their Creator. Absolutely!
Here's a question:
What do the three biblical doctrines of the final judgement say about the character of God?
1) Damnationism (eternal conscious torment)
2) Annihilationism (complete destruction)
3) Christian Universalism (Ultimate Redemption/UR)
Bonus question:
- Did Jesus die to save us from God?
Yes, it certainly may.
Is that in fact the case?
The righteous will not die?God's reasoning that the wicked will die.
Ezekiel 18:21-23 - “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. 22 None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. 23 Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
God spoke through the prophet Ezekiel, so it's God's word; only God can answer your question.The righteous will not die?
What kind of death are we talking about here?
Read the underlined bit again.
Physical, or spiritual death?
If spiritual; in this life or the afterlife?
Where is "under the earth"? (the realm of the dead = Sheol) Scripture below.
Who is there? (the dead)
How many will "acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord"? (every tongue)
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
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Who held torah and from whence did it come . YET was GOD well pleased with manyThe purpose of this topical thread is to discuss where the Bible came from.
I keep encountering forum members that seem to have no clue, or at least some misconceptions
about the origins, history, issues and substance of the scriptures.
I invite others to share their knowledge on the subject. The link below is the best thing I have read on the subject.
I plan to post a few quotes from it. Please offer your own. Thanks.
Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus – Textual Criticism 101
Majority Text vs. Critical Text vs. Textus Receptus - Textual Criticism 101 - Berean Patriot
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Sure. I agree.God spoke through the prophet Ezekiel, so it's God's word; only God can answer your question.
LOL - Indeed.
The oldest manuscript copies, of copies, of copies, of copies... are in pretty rough shape.
Front and back of the oldest fragment of the Gospel of John.
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It does not matter if it is physical or spiritual death, they are dead while they live..How many will "acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord"? (every tongue)
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.
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