Where do people get the authority?

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MatthewG

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People assume they have the authority to overtly cover and decide for others what is right and what is wrong concerning the bible.

Is there a passage of scripture which one can take the bible for today, and assert this authority over people?

Because from my understanding, there is no such scripture which a person can take the words written in the bible and make them for us today because the book was never written to us, in America for example, or Canada, or A specific person in a state.

Revelation was written to 7 literal churches with living breathing people.

So how can people assert this authority if there is no passage of scripture which state "and these letters are to everyone ever more."
 

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God (or Jesus) will judge us; that’s pretty clear. (Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 2:16, 2 Corinthians 5:10, et.al.). On what basis will you be judged? Lots of folks are willing to give you free advice on that. You decide. Choose wisely.
 

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Lambano, the judgement thing I am not so worried about. That is something I do believe will happen when we pass away in this life.

I just desire to know why people believe they assert some authority over people, as though they have a right to by-pass the people that lived in that day which the Gospels had went out to.

I realize many suggest there was no Gospel while Jesus was walking around and that it was all preaching by the mouth of the past events they had encountered.

However, considering we do have the Apostolic Record, of the Apostles it seems like Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, must have been completed at least before the destruction of Jerusalem on the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

If that is the case, the Gospels, the Letters were all written in prior to 70AD. Weirdly enough in Yahavah sense of humor of having taken out his people whom were the antichrist(s), who rejected the Messiah, were judged too. That whole age was Judged and done in by fire. Removing the whole of Material religion itself, from sacrifices to the historical records of their own genealogy also being taken out.

They were judged, first and perhaps some gentiles in the mix with the Bride of Christ in that day.



I just don't get were people assume the position of authority, as though they have the authority to read that same book and assign to themselves as though people on this earth are gonna experience the exact manner of judgement like that.

As though the letter of Thessalonica starts off by saying "Hey matthew, this Paul, keep waiting for Yeshua to come."
Or When Jesus is speaking of the "Evil farmers," that has something to do with us today when it was very much the Jewish people of that time, and even the pharisees stated "God would kill those evil men."


Are there spiritual things to learn through all of this by the spirit over the material which was first presented? Should we over spiritualize, or overthink as though Yahavah is actually going to judge America as a country and and wipe them out and Jesus comes over here, to some mount of olives we have over here? Which we most likely dont have? I know for one thing I can't see a storm until it finally comes close enough for me to see it.

Death, is something I can foresee in my future, be it near or be it far away. Therefore I know that I am gonna die, and I believe this same Yahavah the judged that nation then in that day, will judge me based on "what I did with my life as far as incorporating him into it, and building up spiritual treasures in heaven as Yeshua had said is important."


But no one on this earth does every single thing in that book we hold. So while this took a moment to explain from my understanding concerning judgement.


Where do people get the authority to assign all of these things to themselves, or the nation we live in, that is my over all question, and judgement doesn't have anything to do with that, at least in my opinion.

Hopefully this was clear enough to understand. I don't have any authority to read scripture and apply it myself in a LITERALIST WAY, though there are Literalist out there, and believe everything was written to them today as though these things are gonna happen tomorrow.


Isn't it Yahavah whom is the Authority.

Just like a supervisor is the Authority.
A police officer be them corrupt or not, at that moment in time are the Authority.
A judge that rules over your case is the Authority.

There is no Pastor that has Authority. - but people will quote the passage from a Letter to Timothy, saying they do too!
Are they right or wrong? I guess we all have to decide for ourselves, and I dont believe anyone has any authority when it comes down to doing something like that at all.

The Apostles in that time were the Apostolic Authority keeping the bride of Christ together. (That is something I do understand at least from my perspective, and opinion.)
 

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People assume they have the authority to overtly cover and decide for others what is right and what is wrong concerning the bible.

Is there a passage of scripture which one can take the bible for today, and assert this authority over people?

Because from my understanding, there is no such scripture which a person can take the words written in the bible and make them for us today because the book was never written to us, in America for example, or Canada, or A specific person in a state.

Revelation was written to 7 literal churches with living breathing people.

So how can people assert this authority if there is no passage of scripture which state "and these letters are to everyone ever more."
Have you never been reading the scriptures and felt a passage jump out at you, which meets your exact needs at that time? I have many a time and so have others I know.

There is one that stands out above all others as it was the first one to do so as a new Christian. I can't even remember where it came from now.

It was given to me just before we went to our first bible week in a borrowed tent. We had never camped before and I was a bit anxious so I prayed about it and God led me to a verse in the OT where it said "Your tent will remain secure" so I took that as a promise.

Anyway the first day of the bible week came after a prolonged heatwave rare for England. and that night there was a mighty storm which set fire to the nearby York Minster. It woke me and I looked out of the window of the tent to see nearly everybody out in the rain tightening guy ropes.

My tent remained secure, no damage at all and my husband and son slept through it. The only casualty was my wooden pepper grinder which had been in contact with the side of the tent and got wet and split down one side. It healed and I still have it to remind me of that night and of how God keeps His promises.

There have been other times too when I scripture has spoken to me. Scripture is a Living word it's not just words on a page meant for THEN and THEM but fresh and alive each time we read it and is for US and NOW.