Which part of Revelation 17-18 does not fit USA?

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Suhar

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I never claimed to know it all, but it's certainly not difficult to surpase the limited understanding some here have about what's going on. Those who actually have studied all of God's Word for theirselves can easily distinguish those who have not. It's as simple as that.

Nor do I have the time nor space here to go into all the worldy connections of unseen forces that God has given power to bring the final one-world beast kingdom upon this earth for the last days. You all would have to be subjected to the same depth of historical research on that which I have had over the years.

But there are 4 major historical works that I will recommend, and I have recommended here more than once. They are John Robison's 1789 work Proofs Of A Conspiracy, and ex-Georgetown history professor Carrol Quigley's work Tragedy And Hope, and the ex-FBI agent Cleon Skousen's 1958 work The Naked Communist, and Anatoily Golitsyn's work New Lies For Old.

Robison documented the conspiracy of the Bavarian Illuminati Order discovered historically in 18th century Europe. Robison himself was a British Mason, as he was spotlighting a conspiracy of infiltrators into continental masonry in the 18th century. The Illumnati's plan was to overthrow all governments and the religion of Christianity, and substitute a one-world government in their place.

Quigley, who was ex-President Bill Clinton's history professor at Georgetown, whom Clinton also endorsed, wrote his history work in the 1960's which he had to sue his publishers to find out why they destroyed the printing plates and stopped printing it, breaking their contract. He revealed the working of the conspiracy within the circles of Britain's socialists and their hard ties to American socialists working witin the political apparatus of the United States. Quigley revealed how the Rhodes Scholarship trust trains high level political leaders in socialism towards a one-world socialist world. It's main training facility is Oxford University which is where Bill Clinton (a Rhodes scholar) attended. Thus Quigley was an 'insider' having revealed secrets of what he termed "the establishment". About his book being knocked out of print he said it must have said something 'they' didn't want known to the public (and he was very right about that). 1300 pages, who is disciplined enough to wade through all that?

Skousen served 16 years as an FBI agent, serving from the period right after WWII with the Lend-Lease program as it continued for a short time after the war allowing U.S. secrets to be passed to the Soviets in that era, and also he partook in the debriefing of the Soviet spy Whittaker Chambers who worked in the U.S. State Department. Skousen gave a good description of what causes some high-ranking Americans to spy for the Soviets. Skousen listed 45 strategic Soviet points for the silent takeover of the West, some that only came to pass much later than 1958, and some which are still in the workings today. Can you recognize those points today?

Golitsyn was a Soviet KGB colonel that defected to the U.S. back in the 1960's. He was in on the Soviet's long-range economy policy plan of the 1950's (the 45 points which Skousen covered in his book). Golitsyn went to the U.S. State Department to warn them of the Soviet Disinformation strategy against the West. When they gave him the cold shoulder, he asked permission to print publically. New Lies For Old in 1984 was his first work, which in it he predicted if it were time for the 3rd and final Phase of the Soviet's long-range strategy against the West, then the Soviets might consider allowing the Berlin Wall to come down (it came down in 1989).


What those works reveal is the same movement which God shows in His Word for the very end of this world. There are a group of people upon this earth that have been working towards establishing the coming one-world beast kingdom of Rev.13:1-2 over all nations and all peoples. When their League of Nations idea came into existence in the 19th century, and then the atomic age was initiated to end WWII, we began to see jumps of leaps and bounds towards their one world government plan.

'World Socialism' is the key plan, with the aim to join the East with the West. Opening up free trade with Communist nations like Russia, Red China, Vietnam, Cuba, etc., was part of that plan. The EU is part of that plan, as Golitysn also outlined in his work of the Soviet long-range strategy for the West, a one-world socialist state from the Atlantic to the Urals, is what he called it.

There exists other historical works of how quite a few rich elite western capitalists have been a part of this one-world socialist plan for a long time, having financially supported eastern Communism (Trotsky left New York City with funds to foment the Russian revolution of 1917, as Lenin left Switzerland to do the same; Trotsky was stopped and searched by police in New York which found the monies on him; then later released him). The evidence shows that Communist Socialism is actually a tool originating from western financiers.


Isa 8:9-17
9 Associate yourselves, O ye people, and ye shall be broken in pieces; and give ear, all ye of far countries: gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces; gird yourselves, and ye shall be broken in pieces.
10 Take counsel together, and it shall come to nought; speak the word, and it shall not stand: for God is with us.
11 For the LORD spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me that I should not walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 "Say ye not, 'A confederacy', to all them to whom this people shall say, 'A confederacy'; neither fear ye their fear, nor be afraid."
13 Sanctify the LORD of hosts Himself; and let Him be your fear, and let Him be your dread.
14 And He shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15 And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.
16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among My disciples.
17 And I will wait upon the LORD, That hideth His face from the house of Jacob, and I will look for Him.
(KJV)


God gave that above warning within the Isaiah chapter about our Lord Jesus. It contains a dual prophecy, one historically of what the king of Assyria did upon the lands of Israel back in history, and also a picture for the very end of this world just prior to Christ's return, as we are to 'wait' upon Him, wait for His return. The Assyrian is a title God also uses as a symbolic metaphor for the devil himself at times (like Isa.10 and end of Isa.30, and Ezek.31). In Rev.12 with the waters as a flood symbol, Isaiah 8 was one of the original descriptors for it about the enemy of God's people coming in as a flood. That "A confederacy" is put for a confederacy of nations joining together, i.e., the one-world beast kingdom idea of Rev.13:1.

Brethren in Christ Jesus that do NOT know about all this... can... be subject to working for that one-world plan by Christ's enemies. Like God showed there through Isaiah, those who fail to grasp this make it so even The LORD Himself can become "a rock of offense" upon both 'houses of Israel' (ten tribes in contrast to Jews of Judah).
[SIZE=medium]There are some people that deliver very informed speeches just to hear themselves speak. They want to hear how smart they are. Speech maybe about penguin digestive system and it is delivered at a foot massage therapists convention but as long as speaker feels good about himself there is no harm in foot massage therapists knowing everything there is to know about penguin poop.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Some people are doing same thing and for the same reason by writing long essays and posting them on topics that relate about as closely as penguin poop and foot massage.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Oh by the way I have “New lies for old”. It is a gibberish that only a master of gibberish can read. Also, I forgot more about USSR then you will ever know since I grew up there.[/SIZE]
 

veteran

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Suhar said:
[SIZE=medium]There are some people that deliver very informed speeches just to hear themselves speak. They want to hear how smart they are. Speech maybe about penguin digestive system and it is delivered at a foot massage therapists convention but as long as speaker feels good about himself there is no harm in foot massage therapists knowing everything there is to know about penguin poop.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Some people are doing same thing and for the same reason by writing long essays and posting them on topics that relate about as closely as penguin poop and foot massage.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=medium]Oh by the way I have “New lies for old”. It is a gibberish that only a master of gibberish can read. Also, I forgot more about USSR then you will ever know since I grew up there.[/SIZE]
Claim what you want, since anyone can come here claiming what you have. It will not destroy the evidence presented in those works I mentioned above.

And thanks for revealing yourself, now I 'know' to add you to my Ignore list, seeing how your political views show obvious alignment with that world socialist plan. It's no wonder that your Biblical view of the Babylon harlot is to use it AGAINST The United States of America.
 

Suhar

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You totally loose your "Jerusalem" argument but supperior intellectual being will not admit that. The all knowing you will suggest reading on USSR to enlighten the unwashed masses.... you think that you provide knowledge to mere mortals but instead you provide enteraintment! Thank you!

Hey look! There goes the BRAIN! It does not know where it is going, USSR or Jerusalem but it sure is BIG!
 

Foreigner

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Why are you guys wasting time with this man? ^ ^ ^ ^
His mind is made up and he doesn't want to be bothered with facts.