Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

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Who will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 35 85.4%
  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 4 9.8%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • Kanye West

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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Josho

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I would absolutely quit following American politics for good. i would also attempt moving overseas. i am serious.

Honestly, America has let me down. This country and I do not relate. I care about free, quality education, caring for the poor, universal healthcare, and a vibrant middle class through a redistribution of wealth. Apparently, i am a fish out of water

Perhaps maybe you might consider crossing the Pacific and moving to Aus?

My grandpa on dad's side did that in 1964, because the hospital bills in USA were ridiculous, when he moved here, he was grateful for our healthcare system. Haha.
 

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unfortunately for Trump, he was not only a monumental failure as President, he was an equally crappy authoritarian. As most people understand, even average banana republic despots know the military butters their bread, however, Trump never was a student of history (or any other subject) and decided to piss off the military....which was his only chance of retaining power and avoiding Leavenworth...

"The fortunate thing about criminals, is they usually aren't very smart."
J.B. Smith, Smith County Sheriff 1976-2012
 
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Josho

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Also another guy in our neighbourhood used to live in the US, and told us the other day, an operation that would cost 4k in USA, was free here in Australia
 

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Also another guy in our neighbourhood used to live in the US, and told us the other day, an operation that would cost 4k in USA, was free here in Australia

yep
 

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Perhaps maybe you might consider crossing the Pacific and moving to Aus?

My grandpa on dad's side did that in 1964, because the hospital bills in USA were ridiculous, when he moved here, he was grateful for our healthcare system. Haha.

i would love it
 
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Well a lot of Christian prophets are saying Trump will win, I haven't heard of one yet prophesy Biden would win.
They may call themselves Christian prophets, but are they? Time will tell, won't it?
 
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Also another guy in our neighbourhood used to live in the US, and told us the other day, an operation that would cost 4k in USA, was free here in Australia
US COVID-19 survivor receives $1.1 mn hospital bill

A 70-year-old American man who nearly died of COVID-19 has been billed a heart-stopping $1.1 million for his hospital expenses, the Seattle Times reported Saturday.

Michael Flor was admitted to a hospital in the northwestern city on March 4, and stayed for 62 days -- at one point coming so close to death that nurses held up the phone so his wife and children could say goodbye.

But he recovered and was discharged on May 5 to the cheers of nursing staff -- only to receive a 181-page bill totalling $1,122,501.04, he told the newspaper.

No worry. Medicare was going to pay it all. Then we wonder why medical costs are so high. The government paying for it is one reason. They allow hospitals to overprice things and still pay. If you don't have insurance however, you're in trouble.
 

Giuliano

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Biden is going to win.
Trump is going to refuse to accept the results.
Biden seemed to be saying something as a way of preventing this. He said the military might have to intervene if Trump refused to accept the results of the election. That seemd to force a denial from Trump.

Trump said he would leave the White House peacefully if he lost the election despite fears by Biden that he would refuse to step down

  • President Donald Trump said that he would leave the White House peacefully if he lost the November presidential election, but that it would be "a very bad thing for our country."
  • During an interview with Fox News on Friday, the president responded to comments made by Joe Biden earlier this week who said he is "absolutely convinced" the military would escort Trump from the White House if he refused to leave office.
  • Speaking to Fox anchor Harris Faulkner, Trump said: "Certainly, if I don't win, I don't win," adding he would "go on, do other things."
  • The dispute between the two presidential nominees comes as Trump finds himself trailing behind Biden in most opinion polls.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump invents a reason to resign. I can't see him willing to lose the election. He may find it less humiliating to find some pretext for resigning. He may also find his inner circle of advisors telling him to resign if unrest continues and it looks as if Trump supporters would resort to violence if he loses.

Were he to lose and refuse to accept the results, it could lead to riots acros the nation. It could also lead to a worse humiliation for Trump if he were to be arrested and possibly put on trial. He may not like, but he doesn't have absolute power.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Trump invents a reason to resign. I can't see him willing to lose the election. He may find it less humiliating to find some pretext for resigning. He may also find his inner circle of advisors telling him to resign if unrest continues and it looks as if Trump supporters would resort to violence if he loses.

Were he to lose and refuse to accept the results, it could lead to riots acros the nation. It could also lead to a worse humiliation for Trump if he were to be arrested and possibly put on trial. He may not like, but he doesn't have absolute power.

It's good that he said he would accept a defeat if it happens. But he's promised so many things that he had no intention of doing, we'll have to see.
 

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It's good that he said he would accept a defeat if it happens. But he's promised so many things that he had no intention of doing, we'll have to see.
One of my initial responses was, "If he says he'll accept defeat, it means he won't." Lately though, things have changed. First we saw him bending to pressure not to go playing golf at his club in New Jersey. He got to spend the weekend holed up in Washington. (I think maybe he finally did get some golf later on Thursday.)

Now we see him changing the date of his Tulsa rally after being told it was a bad date for him to show up. That was very interesting to me since I don't think he cares that much about offending black people. Most of the people going to that rally will be white, and they don't care what the date is. Some racists may even want him to show on the 19th as a provocation.

His reason for rescheduling? "Out of respect for this holiday." That made me gasp. He doesn't know how to hold a rally on June 19th in a way that would show respect for it? Silence is his only option for showing respect? I think he needs to hire better speech writers.
 

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The problem is, he can't stick with the text. He wants noise from the crowd, and he attracts people who will cheer and whoop it up if he says something racist or otherwise unAmerican.

So he wings it and when the media report it, everyone else lowers their opinion of him a notch or two. This is why Biden's people are advising Biden to just sit back and watch Trump destroy himself, with maybe a careful discussion of the crises we're going through, now and then to point up the difference.
 
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The problem is, he can't stick with the text. He wants noise from the crowd, and he attracts people who will cheer and whoop it up if he says something racist or otherwise unAmerican.

So he wings it and when the media report it, everyone else lowers their opinion of him a notch or two. This is why Biden's people are advising Biden to just sit back and watch Trump destroy himself, with maybe a careful discussion of the crises we're going through, now and then to point up the difference.
Yes, I can't imagine him giving an anti-racist speech in Tulsa. It might produce change for the better in the long term and help him in the long term too; but he'd miss those wild cheers from the crowd.

I see Florida just reported another record high for the number of coronavirus cases. Great pick for holding the Republican convention.

Story here: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article243513417.html
 

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I see Florida just reported another record high for the number of coronavirus cases. Great pick for holding the Republican convention.

So the RNC will now become the national distributor.
 
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So the RNC will now become the national distributor.
I'm beginning to wonder how many Republicans will be left to vote in some of these states.

Maybe the RNC can get a lot of hydroxychloroquine and hand it out to everyone at the convention. They might even be able to pick it up for free from the state of Florida which got it for free.

Florida ordered 1M doses of a Trump-touted drug. Hospitals didn't want it

Florida is sitting on more than 980,000 unused doses of hydroxychloroquine, a drug President Donald Trump touted as a “game changer” in the fight against the coronavirus, after only a handful of hospitals in the state asked for access to the medicine.

Gov. Ron DeSantis said in April that the state was getting 1 million doses of the drug. The announcement was made during a press conference that came across as a commercial for hydroxychloroquine. Held in the Florida Cabinet room, the event featured the video testimonial of a patient who had taken the drug, a question-and-answer session with a doctor who endorsed the treatment, and DeSantis touting the drug by name, even as he referenced other experimental treatments for Covid-19 only vaguely.

Despite the governor’s pitch, few hospitals have requested the drug, which was provided free-of-charge from Israeli drug maker Teva Pharmaceuticals in a deal DeSantis said was facilitated by U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman.
 

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Well a lot of Christian prophets are saying Trump will win, I haven't heard of one yet prophesy Biden would win.

Hehe so if Trump won a 2nd term what would you do?

I've dreamed that Donald Trump will be reelected to a 2nd term. It's important that we don't ignore the prophets.

Amos 3:7 (NLT) "Indeed, the Sovereign Lord never does anything until he reveals his plans to his servants the prophets."
 
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Biden seemed to be saying something as a way of preventing this. He said the military might have to intervene if Trump refused to accept the results of the election. That seemd to force a denial from Trump.

Trump said he would leave the White House peacefully if he lost the election despite fears by Biden that he would refuse to step down

  • President Donald Trump said that he would leave the White House peacefully if he lost the November presidential election, but that it would be "a very bad thing for our country."
  • During an interview with Fox News on Friday, the president responded to comments made by Joe Biden earlier this week who said he is "absolutely convinced" the military would escort Trump from the White House if he refused to leave office.
  • Speaking to Fox anchor Harris Faulkner, Trump said: "Certainly, if I don't win, I don't win," adding he would "go on, do other things."
  • The dispute between the two presidential nominees comes as Trump finds himself trailing behind Biden in most opinion polls.

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump invents a reason to resign. I can't see him willing to lose the election. He may find it less humiliating to find some pretext for resigning. He may also find his inner circle of advisors telling him to resign if unrest continues and it looks as if Trump supporters would resort to violence if he loses.

Were he to lose and refuse to accept the results, it could lead to riots acros the nation. It could also lead to a worse humiliation for Trump if he were to be arrested and possibly put on trial. He may not like, but he doesn't have absolute power.

unfortunately, like all narcissists, he with be at high risk for suicide when he loses
 

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unfortunately, like all narcissists, he with be at high risk for suicide when he loses
I asked myself if he was experimenting with drugs because of suicidal feelings. He looked a lot more energetic and acted a lot more intelligent when running for President. Now he often looks depressed and says things that make almost no sense.

The danger there is that that type of person often wants to take others with him before he kills himself. They'll even take out their own followers.
 

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I asked myself if he was experimenting with drugs because of suicidal feelings. He looked a lot more energetic and acted a lot more intelligent when running for President. Now he often looks depressed and says things that make almost no sense.

The danger there is that that type of person often wants to take others with him before he kills himself. They'll even take out their own followers.

It's not good to get into rumors and gossip which may or may not be true.
 

Giuliano

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It's not good to get into rumors and gossip which may or may not be true.
Thansk for that statement. I don't think I was indulging in either. I expressed my thoughts as speculation on my part. Can you tell the difference?

I seriously doubt if Trump cares about the lives of other people, even his supporters. He would win the state of Oklahoma without setting foot in it. Yet he plans a rally in Tulsa where the coronavirus remains out of control. When I see him recklessly endangering the lives of his supporters, I think it reasonable to speculate about how much he cares about his supporters.
 
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Meanwhile Repubican Voters Against Trump has released an ad that is sure to raise hackles on Capitol Hill.