Who do you think will win Trump or Biden or Kanye?

[Cristo Rei]

It looks like The Donald has got this in the bag

 

[Willie T]

"Record setting" what I thought, lots of people on that list.

I can't say I understand what that sentence means.

 

[Willie T]

It looks like The Donald has got this in the bag

Not necessarily. Quite a few Democrats have already admitted they don't care about anything but winning, and would vote for a dead dog in a mudhole, simply to get themselves in power again. God and country, be damned.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

It depends on how many people vote, if everyone votes, trump wins because most of the country I think still sees the danger of the liberal theology

but sadly we still have the liberal cities who control most of the delegates, and are mostly liberal, so if those out in the subs and country do not turn out in number as they did last election to vote against Hillary, I fear for my country,

my biggest fear is Hillary runs for VP, then when Biden wins they have him commited, and Hillary gets in, something the libs have wanted all along

 

[Willie T]

This is interesting. Below is the current line of succession for the President of the United States:

No. — Office — Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi (D)
3 President Pro Tempore of the Senate Chuck Grassley (R)
4 Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (R)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
6 Secretary of Defense Mark Esper (R)
7 Attorney General William P. Barr (R)
8 Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt (R)
9 Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue (R)
10 Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross (R)
11 Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia (R)
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar (R)
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson (R)
14 Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao (R)
15 Secretary of Energy Dan Brouillette (R)
16 Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (R)
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie (R)
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf (R)

 

[Earburner]

Biden's had a lot of adversity in his life, and he's been counted out more than once, only to confound everyone and succeed. So it's probably a bad idea to think so this time. Each time he's been challenged, he's been more than up to the challenge. No doubt he seems energized right now, because he's extending his lead over Trump; but that's not the whole story.

Yeah! This is the whole story: Hillary!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

This is interesting. Below is the current line of succession for the President of the United States:

No. — Office — Current officer
1 Vice President Mike Pence (R)
2 Speaker of the House of Representatives Nancy Pelosi (D)
3 President Pro Tempore of the Senate Chuck Grassley (R)
4 Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (R)
5 Secretary of the Treasury Steven Mnuchin (R)
6 Secretary of Defense Mark Esper (R)
7 Attorney General William P. Barr (R)
8 Secretary of the Interior David Bernhardt (R)
9 Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue (R)
10 Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross (R)
11 Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia (R)
12 Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex Azar (R)
13 Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Ben Carson (R)
14 Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao (R)[3]
15 Secretary of Energy Dan Brouillette (R)
16 Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos (R)
17 Secretary of Veterans Affairs Robert Wilkie (R)
18 Secretary of Homeland Security Chad Wolf (R)[4]

Number 2 should be enough to scare anyone.

 

[Willie T]

Number 2 should be enough to scare anyone.

What was his record as Governor of Indiana?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What was his record as Governor of Indiana?

Pelosi?

 

[Yehren]

Reality is starting to seep into Trump's awareness:

 

[Willie T]

Pelosi?

Uh..... the first in in succession is Mike Pence. (Sorry, I should have made that clearer.)

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Uh..... the first in in succession is Mike Pence. (Sorry, I should have made that clearer.)

Yes, number 2 is Nancy pelosi
And God forbid if it gets to her..

 

[Yehren]

What was his record as Governor of Indiana?

Well, this, back in 2017 sort of explains that:

A recent poll shows Mike Pence is more popular among Hoosiers as vice president than he was as governor.

The Old National Bank/Ball State University 2017 Hoosier Survey says Pence had a 40 percent approval rating among Indiana residents when he was governor. Now that he’s Vice President, the poll says 50 percent of Hoosiers approve of the job Pence is doing.
Higher Approval Rating Of Pence As VP Than Governor | news - Indiana Public Media

What happened is that Pence failed to act in response to increasingly urgent signs of a significant HIV outbreak, and he delayed implementation of vital public health measures. Among public health experts, the Indiana outbreak is considered a failure of state response, and an example of how poor political leadership can actually make a crisis worse.

How do we know? We closely studied the dynamics of the Scott County HIV outbreak from 2011 to 2015, as well as the policy responses of the state’s leaders. Our full account was published in a 2018 article in the scientific journal The Lancet HIV. Here’s what happened.
...
As late as early March 2015, Pence still resisted calls to establish needle exchange programs even though state legislators from Pence’s own party were now advocating for them.
...
On March 25, 2015, Pence finally declared a public health emergency, which permitted needle exchange in the town. Several days later, an HIV testing clinic opened. In early April, after consultations with Indiana State Department of Health, CDC and local law enforcement, Pence established a temporary syringe-exchange program for 30 days. Finally, in May 2015, Pence signed a bill that allowed counties in Indiana to apply for permission to establish syringe-exchange programs.
...
On the same day, however, Pence also undermined the effects of the new law, signing another bill that toughened the punishment for people found carrying needles.
...
The damage was done: by 2017, a total of 215 cases of HIV infection had been attributed to the outbreak. When we performed our analysis of the the Indiana outbreak, we found that undiagnosed HIV infections peaked about 2 months before Pence declared a public health emergency—after the rise of HIV had been detected, but before the governor chose to act. Using a mathematical model of epidemic dynamics, we estimated that up to 127 HIV infections could have been averted if Pence had implemented public health measures like HIV testing and needle exchange proactively in 2013, when he had been urged to do so by experts in his state.
How Mike Pence Made Indiana’s HIV Outbreak Worse

 

[Willie T]

Well, this, back in 2017 sort of explains that:

A recent poll shows Mike Pence is more popular among Hoosiers as vice president than he was as governor.

The Old National Bank/Ball State University 2017 Hoosier Survey says Pence had a 40 percent approval rating among Indiana residents when he was governor. Now that he’s Vice President, the poll says 50 percent of Hoosiers approve of the job Pence is doing.
Higher Approval Rating Of Pence As VP Than Governor | news - Indiana Public Media

What happened is that Pence failed to act in response to increasingly urgent signs of a significant HIV outbreak, and he delayed implementation of vital public health measures. Among public health experts, the Indiana outbreak is considered a failure of state response, and an example of how poor political leadership can actually make a crisis worse.

How do we know? We closely studied the dynamics of the Scott County HIV outbreak from 2011 to 2015, as well as the policy responses of the state’s leaders. Our full account was published in a 2018 article in the scientific journal The Lancet HIV. Here’s what happened.
...
As late as early March 2015, Pence still resisted calls to establish needle exchange programs even though state legislators from Pence’s own party were now advocating for them.
...
On March 25, 2015, Pence finally declared a public health emergency, which permitted needle exchange in the town. Several days later, an HIV testing clinic opened. In early April, after consultations with Indiana State Department of Health, CDC and local law enforcement, Pence established a temporary syringe-exchange program for 30 days. Finally, in May 2015, Pence signed a bill that allowed counties in Indiana to apply for permission to establish syringe-exchange programs.
...
On the same day, however, Pence also undermined the effects of the new law, signing another bill that toughened the punishment for people found carrying needles.
...
The damage was done: by 2017, a total of 215 cases of HIV infection had been attributed to the outbreak. When we performed our analysis of the the Indiana outbreak, we found that undiagnosed HIV infections peaked about 2 months before Pence declared a public health emergency—after the rise of HIV had been detected, but before the governor chose to act. Using a mathematical model of epidemic dynamics, we estimated that up to 127 HIV infections could have been averted if Pence had implemented public health measures like HIV testing and needle exchange proactively in 2013, when he had been urged to do so by experts in his state.
How Mike Pence Made Indiana’s HIV Outbreak Worse

That was entertaining that someone thinks he could have stopped as many as 127 infections.... but I think I asked what his record as Governor was.

 

[Yehren]

That was entertaining that someone thinks he could have stopped as many as 127 infections.... but I think I asked what his record as Governor was.

That was his salient contribution as Governor. It's why he wasn't very popular in Indiana at the time. When he left the state for Washington, he became more popular.

 

[Yehren]

Yeah! This is the whole story: Hillary!

Hillary Clinton lost. Try to find a way to live with it.

 

[Yehren]

but sadly we still have the liberal cities who control most of the delegates, and are mostly liberal, so if those out in the subs and country do not turn out in number as they did last election to vote against Hillary, I fear for my country,

Trump has lost the suburbs. A big turnout there would doom him...
The Republican defeat in Louisiana shows Trump is 'human repellent spray' for suburban voters, and it could spell big trouble for his reelection chances

• Key to the Democratic victory was strong margins in traditionally conservative suburban areas, such as Jefferson Parish outside New Orleans.
• The result underlines a growing trend of suburban areas swinging to vote for Democrats, as seen recently in the southern states of Kentucky and Virginia.
• Edwards' victory came even after President Donald Trump personally campaigned for Rispone.
• Tim Miller, a Republican strategist, told The New York Times that the result was proof Trump was "human repellent spray for suburban voters who have a conservative disposition."

The Republican defeat in Louisiana shows Trump is 'human repellent spray' for suburban voters, and it could spell big trouble for his reelection chances

 

[Earburner]

Hillary Clinton lost. Try to find a way to live with it.

You don't understand! We are all going to live it again, because she will win by default.

 

[Giuliano]

Not necessarily. Quite a few Democrats have already admitted they don't care about anything but winning, and would vote for a dead dog in a mudhole, simply to get themselves in power again. God and country, be damned.

 

[Yehren]

You don't understand! We are all going to live it again, because she will win by default.

She and Biden have a lot of philosophical differences. And Biden isn't particularly easy to persuade.