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Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?
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The Jews and the church. Jews saved by law and grace, the church saved by grace, and then in the “great tribulation” Jews again just because they’re Jews.
Are your sins today TEMPORARILY covered by the sacrifice of animals ?
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""In the Bible, animal sacrifice was commanded by God to provide a temporary covering for sin, show the serious cost of breaking God's covenant, and point forward as a visual symbol to the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus Christ"""
Yes it was for those UNDER THE LAW. None of the Old Testament saints were under the law they were under grace just like Abraham was. The law DID NOT disanul grace.
None of the OT saints were under the law ? Sounds like Moses wasted his time then
I’m not a dispensationalist I was explaining what I thought dispensationalim was. But to answer your question, there have always been two types of Jews, flesh descendants of Israel and spiritual descendants of Abraham.
Spiritual descendants of Abraham is the same thing as saying they are saved.
There’s only one way to be saved and that’s by grace through faith whether it was Abraham, King David or me. There is only one gospel.
King David was saved by the 1 Cor 15:1-4 Gospel and was also Eph 1:13, Eph 4:30 HS sealed by that Gospel ?
There’s only one gospel Peter believe God and it’s counted as righteousness. This existed before David with Abraham, through the entire Old Testament and exists today.
King David >>> Psalm 51:11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
What verses from Paul teach that we can lose the HS today ?
Just the verses IR since you are so sure how we are saved today is EXACTLY how King David was saved.
Don't mix up the judgments...
Believers do not come under judgment, they are not subject to the second death. Yes all believers are judged, bit their is not judgment of life or death for them as they all have passed from death into life....
All unbelievers abide in death
NKJV
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
ASV
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth him that sent me, hath eternal life, and cometh not into judgment, but hath passed out of death into life.
AMP
“I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually begins—the believer is transformed], and does not come into judgment and condemnation, but has passed [over] from death into life.
AMPC
I assure you, most solemnly I tell you, the person whose ears are open to My words [who listens to My message] and believes and trusts in and clings to and relies on Him Who sent Me has (possesses now) eternal life. And he does not come into judgment [does not incur sentence of judgment, will not come under condemnation], but he has already passed over out of death into life.
BRG
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
CSB
“Truly I tell you, anyone who hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not come under judgment but has passed from death to life.
All unbelievers are DEAD, in fact they are the walking dead, having the appearance of being alive, but they are dead.
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21 Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”
22 But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”
John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Romans 14:9
For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
Who are the living and who are the dead? Sure physically living people who do not believe in Christ are also the dead, they pass from death into the second death at the judgment as they are condemned already cause they have not believed.
Those who believe have passed out of death into life, and will not come under judgment as they are not condemned.
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31 He who comes from above is above all; he who is of the earth is earthly and speaks of the earth. He who comes from heaven is above all. 32 And what He has seen and heard, that He testifies; and no one receives His testimony. 33 He who has received His testimony has certified that God is true. 34 For He whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God does not give the Spirit by measure.
35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
No survivors left alive at the second coming, the entire earth and all the works on it burn up.... nothing left of that world, anyone on it that does not believe is not transformed into His image. They burn with the earth.
2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
Bible Gateway passage: Matthew 8:21-23 - New King James Version
Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.” But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.” Wind and Wave Obey Jesus - Now when He got into a boat, His disciples followed Him.
21 Then another of His disciples said to Him, “Lord, let me first go and bury my father.”
22 But Jesus said to him, “Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”
John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Romans 14:9
For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
Who are the living and who are the dead? Sure physically living people who do not believe in Christ are also the dead, they pass from death into the second death at the judgment as they are condemned already cause they have not believed.
Those who believe have passed out of death into life, and will not come under judgment as they are not condemned.
Bible Gateway passage: John 3 - New King James Version
The New Birth - There was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews. This man came to Jesus by night and said to Him, “Rabbi, we know that You are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that You do unless God is with him.” Jesus answered and said to him, “Most...
35 The Father loves the Son, and has given all things into His hand.
36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
No survivors left alive at the second coming, the entire earth and all the works on it burn up.... nothing left of that world, anyone on it that does not believe is not transformed into His image. They burn with the earth.
2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.
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With Christ's first coming and resurrection, we are at the end of this world's ages!!
There will not be any more ages left for this earth....
When Christ returns we get a new earth and new heaven in which dwelleth righteousness
1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
Hebrews 9:26
He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
KJ21
And, “If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
They shall appear in the fire and be burned up!
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7 But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober and watch unto prayer.
8 And above all things, have fervent charity among yourselves, for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak according to the oracles of God. If any man minister, let him do it according to the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you;
13 but rejoice inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, that, when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye, for the Spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you. On their part evil is spoken of Him, but on your part He is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God on this account.
17 For the time has come that judgment must begin at the house of God. And if it first begin with us, what shall the end be of those who obey not the Gospel of God?
18 And, “If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to Him in welldoing, as unto a faithful Creator.
There will not be any more ages left for this earth....
When Christ returns we get a new earth and new heaven in which dwelleth righteousness
1 Corinthians 10:11
Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.
Hebrews 9:26
He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
KJ21
And, “If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
They shall appear in the fire and be burned up!
Bible Gateway passage: 1 Peter 4 - 21st Century King James Version
For inasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind, for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin, that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God. For the time past...
8 And above all things, have fervent charity among yourselves, for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.
9 Use hospitality one to another without grudging.
10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
11 If any man speak, let him speak according to the oracles of God. If any man minister, let him do it according to the ability which God giveth, that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you;
13 but rejoice inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings, that, when His glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye, for the Spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you. On their part evil is spoken of Him, but on your part He is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men’s matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed, but let him glorify God on this account.
17 For the time has come that judgment must begin at the house of God. And if it first begin with us, what shall the end be of those who obey not the Gospel of God?
18 And, “If the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?”
19 Therefore let those who suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to Him in welldoing, as unto a faithful Creator.
Malachi 4 prophecies the coming of Christ
5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
v1 is that dreadful day of the Lord, which occurs at the second coming of Christ.... just as Christ taught, and Paul, and Peter also teach the same message.
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1 “For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall be stubble. And the day that cometh shall burn them up,” saith the Lord of hosts, “that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in His wings; and ye shall go forth and grow up as calves from the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this,” saith the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember ye the Law of Moses, My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
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The Lord Jesus came a first time to be crucified and to give His life as a ransom for many, the second time He comes glorified with all power, for the judgment of this world in fire and wrath.
2 Thess 1
6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
v1 is that dreadful day of the Lord, which occurs at the second coming of Christ.... just as Christ taught, and Paul, and Peter also teach the same message.
Bible Gateway passage: Malachi 4 - 21st Century King James Version
"For behold, the day cometh that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly shall be stubble. And the day that cometh shall burn them up," saith the LORD of hosts, "that it shall leave them neither root nor branch. But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of...
2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in His wings; and ye shall go forth and grow up as calves from the stall.
3 And ye shall tread down the wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this,” saith the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember ye the Law of Moses, My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.
5 “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.”
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The Lord Jesus came a first time to be crucified and to give His life as a ransom for many, the second time He comes glorified with all power, for the judgment of this world in fire and wrath.
2 Thess 1
6 For it is a righteous thing with God to recompense with tribulation those who trouble you;
7 and to you who are troubled, rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from Heaven with His mighty angels,
8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who know not God, and who obey not the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9 These shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power,
10 when He shall come on that Day to be glorified in His saints and to be admired in all those who believe, because our testimony among you was believed.
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