Who were the sons of God mentioned in Genesis 6?

[n2thelight]

It is only by the Divine specific act of creation that any created being can be called "a son of God". For that which is "born of the flesh is flesh". God is spirit, and that which is "born of the Spirit is spirit" (John 3:6). Hence Adam is called a "son of God" in Luke 3:38. Those "in Christ" having "the new nature" which is by the direct creation of God (2Cor. 5:17. Eph. 2:10) can be, and are called "sons of God" (John 1:13. Rom. 8:14, 15. 1John 3:1). (*1)
This is why angels are called "sons of God" in every other place where the expression is used in the Old Testament. Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Ps. 29:1; 89:6. Dan. 3:25 (no art.). (*2) We have no authority or right to take the expression in Gen. 6:2, 4 in any other sense. Moreover, in Gen. 6:2 the Sept. renders it "angels". Angels are called "spirits" (Ps. 104:4. Heb. 1:7, 14), for spirits are created by God.
That there was a fall of the angels is certain from Jude 6.

• The nature of their fall is clearly stated in the same verse. They left their own oiketerion. This word occurs only in 2Cor. 5:2 and Jude 6, where it is used of the spiritual (or resurrection) body.
• The nature of their sin is stated to be "in like manner" to that of the subsequent sins of Sodom and Gomorrha, Jude 7.
• The time of their fall is given as having taken place "in the days of Noah" (1Pet. 3:20. 2Pet. 2:7), though there may have been a prior fall which caused the end of "the world that then was" (Gen. 1:1, 2. 2Pet. 3:6).
• For this sin they are "reserved unto judgment", 2Pet. 2:4, and are "in prison", 1Pet. 3:19.
• Their progeny, called Nephilim (translated "giants"), were monsters of iniquity; and, being superhuman in size and character, had to be destroyed (see Ap. 25). This was the one and only object of the Flood.
• Only Noah and his family had preserved their pedigree pure from Adam (Gen. 6:9, see note). All the rest had become "corrupt" (shachath) destroyed [as Adamites]. the only remedy was to destroy it (de facto), as it had become destroyed (de jure). (It is the same word in v. 17 as in vv. 11, 12.) See further under Ap. 25 on the Nephilim.

This irruption of fallen angels was Satan's first attempt to prevent the coming of the Seed of the woman foretold in gen. 3:15. If this could be accomplished, God's Word would have failed, and his own doom would be averted.
As soon as it was made known that the Seed of the woman was to come through ABRAHAM, there must have been another irruption, as recorded in Gen. 6:4, "and also after that" (i.e. after the days of Noah, more than 500 years after the first irruption). The aim of the enemy was to occupy Canaan in advance of Abraham, and so to contest its occupation by his seed. For, when Abraham entered Canaan, we read (Gen. 12:6) "the Canaanite was then (i.e. already) in the land."
In the same chapter (Gen. 12:10-20) we see Satan's next attempt to interfere with Abraham's seed, and frustrate the purpose of God that it should be in "Isaac". This attempt was repeated in 20:1-18.
This great conflict may be seen throughout the Bible, and it forms a great and important subject of Biblical study. In each case the human instrument had his own personal interest to serve, while Satan had his own great object in view. Hence God had, in each case, to interfere and avert the evil and the danger, of which his servants and people were wholly ignorant. The following assaults of the great Enemy stand out prominently :--

• The destruction of the chosen family by famine, Gen. 50:20.
• The destruction of the male line in Israel, Ex. 1:10, 15, &c. Cp. Ex. 2:5. Heb. 11:23.
• The destruction of the whole nation in Pharaoh's pursuit, Ex. 14.
• After David's line was singled out (2Sam. 7), that was the next selected for assault. Satan's first assault was in the union of Jehoram and Athaliah by Jehoshaphat, notwithstanding 2Chron. 17:1. Jehoram killed off all his brothers (2Chron. 21:4).
• The Arabians slew all his children, except Ahaziah (2Chron. 21:17; 22:1).
• When Ahaziah died, Athaliah killed "all the seed royal" (2Chron. 22:10). the babe Joash alone was rescued; and, for six years, the faithfulness of Jehovah's word was at stake (2Chron. 23:3).
• Hezekiah was childless, when a double assault was made by the King of Assyria and the King of Terrors (Isa. 36:1; 38:1). God's faithfulness was appealed to and relied on (Ps. 136).
• In Captivity, Haman was used to attempt the destruction of the whole nation (Est. 3:6, 12, 13. Cp. 6:1).
• Joseph's fear was worked on (Matt. 1:18-20). Notwithstanding the fact that he was "a just man", and kept the Law, he did not wish to have Mary stoned to death (Deut. 24:1); hence Joseph determined to divorce her. But God intervened : "Fear not".
• Herod sought the young Child's life (Matt. 2).
• At the Temptation, "Cast Thyself down" was Satan's temptation.
• At Nazareth, again (Luke 4), there was another attempt to cast Him down and destroy Him.
• The two storms on the Lake were other attempts.
• At length the cross was reached, and the sepulcher closed; the watch set; and the stone sealed. But "God raised Him from the dead." And now, like another Joash, He is seated and expecting (Heb. 10:12, 13), hidden in the house of God on high; and the members of "the one body" are hidden there "in Him" (Col. 3:1-3), like another Jehoshaba; and going forth to witness of His coming, like another Jehoiada (2Chron. 23:3).

The irruption of "the fallen angels" ("sons of God") was the first attempt; and was directed against the whole human race.

• When Abraham was called, then he and his seed were attacked.
• When David was enthroned, then the royal line were attacked.
• And when "the Seed of the woman" Himself came, then the storm burst upon Him.

 

[THE Gypsy]

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Job 1:6

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Matt. 4:1

And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour. Matt 17:18

And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way. Matt. 8:28

So the devils besought him, saying, If thou cast us out, suffer us to go away into the herd of swine. Matt 8:31

But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land? Acts 5:3

To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Acts 26:18

Defraud ye not one the other, except [it be] with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency. 1 Corn. 7:5

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. James 2:19


On and on and on...



Insight, since you don't believe there is any such thing as a devil, or demons, why do you suppose the Bible talks about them so much? Why do you suppose there are so many warnings to Believers? According to you, God, Jesus and the Disciples have all lied! How can you possibly believe in a God like that?

I guess you believe in dragons.

Insight

You keep "guessing", there, Sparky. Sooner, or later, you just might get it right.

 

[n2thelight]

The question one must ask is why.....To those who don't believe the sons of God had sex with women also don't believe satan had sex with Eve but there is your answer.So the why is the same reason satan seduced Eve,to destroy the bloodline through which Christ would come,so simple........

 

[Insight]

The question one must ask is why.....To those who don't believe the sons of God had sex with women also don't believe satan had sex with Eve but there is your answer.So the why is the same reason satan seduced Eve,to destroy the bloodline through which Christ would come,so simple........

What rot!

If angels sin Rom 6:23 applies and Gal 3:22 results in Heaven being held under sin. Heaven in confusion and your reward tainted by the possibility of sin.

Back to the drawing board.

Insight

 

[n2thelight]

What rot!

If angels sin Rom 6:23 applies and Gal 3:22 results in Heaven being held under sin. Heaven in confusion and your reward tainted by the possibility of sin.

Back to the drawing board.

Insight

Simple question,is satan an angel?

 

[Insight]

Simple answer - Satan is not a person.

Satan means adversary:

God is a Satan - 2 Sam. 24:1 compare 1 Chron. 21:1. An obedient divine angel is a Satan- Num. 22:22. Hadad the Edomite is a Satan - 1 Kings 11:14. Peter was also a Satan - Matt. 16:23.

Now if God is a Satan you have a huge problem to solve.

Insight

You keep "guessing", there, Sparky. Sooner, or later, you just might get it right.

Looks like we are both guessing

 

[n2thelight]

Simple answer - Satan is not a person.

Satan means adversary:

God is a Satan - 2 Sam. 24:1 compare 1 Chron. 21:1. An obedient divine angel is a Satan- Num. 22:22. Hadad the Edomite is a Satan - 1 Kings 11:14. Peter was also a Satan - Matt. 16:23.

Now if God is a Satan you have a huge problem to solve.

Insight



Looks like we are both guessing

That wasn't the question,I see why your having problems,let's try this again...Is satan an angel??????

 

[Insight]

Satan is not a person or an angel.

Insight

 

[Insight]

Another problem for you in Gen 6 is Luke 20:35, 36 which is conclusive that angels do not marry, no need you see!

 

[n2thelight]

Another problem for you in Gen 6 is Luke 20:35, 36 which is conclusive that angels do not marry, no need you see!

Luke 20:35 "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:"

 

[n2thelight]

Satan is not a person or an angel.

Insight

So what is he????

 

[Insight]

He is not a he.

Luke 20:35 "But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:"

The reward of the saints is to be like unto the angels?

No? Mark 12:25

Luke 20:36 which you omitted to quote.

for they (saints) cannot die anymore (therefore they cannot sin Rom 6:23), because they (Saints) are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.

So Angels - Glorified Saints are like God 1 Tim 6:16 - - another problem for you to consider!

I wonder if you believe whether Jesus can still be tempted to sin, or not?

 

[veteran]

No what you are saying is that Satan is a fallen angel who sinned. Follow the thought? An Angel sins in Heaven = Rom 6:23 is applied then Gods throne is full of chaos and all angels ,even God Himself is held under sin Gal 3:22. The reward of the saints cannot be guaranteed to be free from sin? For sin to occur one must have free will to chose between right and wrong...Angels don’t have free will...they only do God’s Will "Are they (the angels of God) not all ministering spirits sent forth to serve, for the sake of those who are to obtain salvation?" Heb 1:14 & Psalm 103:20 These passages must be lies! In other words your belief in fallen angels is ludicrous, impossible irreconcilable doctrine and your hope would be in vain because your reward is tainted with sin. Ouch!

Some just simply do not believe what God's Word says...

I Jn 3:8
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
(KJV)


2 Pet 2:4-5
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
(KJV)

The Gal.3:22 Scripture does not apply to angels. It's only about those born flesh, so its usage in this argument is irrelevant.

 

[Insight]

Some just simply do not believe what God's Word says...

I Jn 3:8
8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
(KJV)

If he sinned from the beginning he must be flesh and blood.

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, Jesus also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Heb 2:14

Whats all the fuss about Veteran - - the devil is dead!

Jesus was manifested in the flesh to destroy its works (sin) which had the power of death (Rom 6:23) the devil!

Insight

The Gal.3:22 Scripture does not apply to angels. It's only about those born flesh, so its usage in this argument is irrelevant.

this type of flippant reasoning!

We have Veteran on record saying that sin only applies to flesh!

 

[veteran]

If he sinned from the beginning he must be flesh and blood.

Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, Jesus also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; Heb 2:14

Whats all the fuss about Veteran - - the devil is dead!

Jesus was manifested in the flesh to destroy its works (sin) which had the power of death (Rom 6:23) the devil!

Insight

It's pretty obvious by now that you aren't really interested in heeding what God's Word declares as written. So I have no further offers of Bible understanding for you.

 

[Insight]

It's pretty obvious by now that you aren't really interested in heeding what God's Word declares as written. So I have no further offers of Bible understanding for you.

Veteran

Respectfully you have offered only confusion where your answers provide no clarity to Gen 6. You cannot reconcile sin in Heaven and you never will. I could quote a thousand verses to derail your understanding of fallen angels.

Like I have said, you need to approach this subject from an entirely different angle.

I expect you will use your ignore button but this too is to your own hurt.

Rom 6:23 & Gal 3:22 cannot apply to Heaven, therefore, no sin in Heaven.

Let me ask you this then.

If Satan was a sinner what made him turn and not other angels? Is every human being on earth from the time of Adam to the last fleshly person a sinner?

So why don’t all angels sin? What only some ???? Which ones and why ???

The truth is you don’t know the answers because the whole theory is a fallacy of all fallacies.

The truth is vastly different to what you were taught....but are you willing to listen?

In the Masters care

Insight

 

[n2thelight]

If Satan was a sinner what made him turn and not other angels? Is every human being on earth from the time of Adam to the last fleshly person a sinner?



Ezekiel 28:15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

Satan was perfect in every way, until he stopped loving God. Satan's focus then turned from serving God, to serving himself. Doing things his way. God created all souls, and gave them the right to choose. He has the right also to receive our love and respect, so we should take the time to tell him we love Him.

Ezekiel 28:16 "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

This is the over-throw from the world that was, the first earth age. God told Satan that he was to be removed from the altar of God.

Ezekiel 28:17 "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of the brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee."

 

[Insight]

If Satan was a sinner what made him turn and not other angels? Is every human being on earth from the time of Adam to the last fleshly person a sinner?



Ezekiel 28:15 "Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee."

Satan was perfect in every way, until he stopped loving God. Satan's focus then turned from serving God, to serving himself. Doing things his way. God created all souls, and gave them the right to choose. He has the right also to receive our love and respect, so we should take the time to tell him we love Him.

Ezekiel 28:16 "By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire."

This is the over-throw from the world that was, the first earth age. God told Satan that he was to be removed from the altar of God.

Ezekiel 28:17 "Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of the brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee."

N2Light

If you approached this Scripture knowing that it is impossible for angels to sin, how would you go about interpreting this passage?

Well, we would ask questions of the Word and apply a number of tests.

What is the context of the chapter?

(1) The pride of the king of Tyre: Ezek 28:1-10.
(2) The dirge over the king of Tyre: Ezek 28:11-19.
(3) The doom of Zidon: Ezek 28:20-23.
(4) The removal of these 'briers' from Israel: Ezek 28:24-26.

Therefore we must ask the most obvious question; why would God reveal "Satan" within a prophecy of the King of Tyre? Satan is not mentioned anywhere within chapter?

Your answer:

 

[THE Gypsy]

Looks like we are both guessing

Nope. Just you.

It's pretty obvious by now that you aren't really interested in heeding what God's Word declares as written. So I have no further offers of Bible understanding for you.

Well said.

 

[Insight]

Gypsy,

Care to take up where Veteran left off?

I believe he was struggling to reconcile Sin in Heaven?

You know Romans 6:23 and Gal 3:22 being that Heaven is bought under the same condemnation?

If I were to conclude this study thus far would this be correct?

The phrase "Sons of God" can refer to angels as it may in Job 38:7, however we have also seen this expression also of men. (See Deut 14:1ESV; Hosea 1:10; Luke 3:38; John 1:12; 1 John 3:1).

In Genesis 6:2 the "sons of God" were the righteous line of Seth (as per *Genesis 4:26KJV) intermarrying with evil Cainites.

*If you looked in your AV margin "Or, to call themselves by the name of the LORD."

While there is no mention at all in the chapter of angels whether they be falling or sleeping with earthly women we have plenty of evidence the earth was under scrutiny and certian judgement.

The concept of fallen Angelic Beings cannot be so for if one sins, they all can sin! Heaven would be in disarray and further more we are left with the unthinkable.

"Angels, that excel in strength, that do His commandments, hearkening unto the voice of His word" (Ps.103:20).

Weak and feeble Angels.

The angels...are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them (the believers) who shall be heirs of salvation?"

If they are Spirits motivated by the Spirit of God we have another issue; because Gods Word is Spirit, just as "God is a Spirit" (John 4:24) Now if God is Spirit and that Spirit is able to Sin; then you must believe Gods Word can be sinful.

That God is able to Sin.

God's Nature ('Divine nature as the Angels')

Cannot sin (perfect) (Rom.9:14; 6:23 cp. Ps.90:2; Mt.5:48; James 1:13)
Cannot die, immortal (1 Tim.6:16)
Full of power and energy (Isa 40:28).

So further to Rom 6:23 Gal 3:22 and Heb 1:14 John 4:24 and John 1:1 results in a Sinful Heaven.

Gen 6 is still very safe from your erroneous doctrines.

Insight