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Precious friends, another Confusion causing Division, is:

1) Follow God obeying All of the Bible?, or:
2) Follow Moses and the law?, or:
3) Follow [earthly] Christ and the twelve apostles?, or:
4) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias in Judas' bishopric?, or:
5) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias Paul in Judas' bishopric?, or:
or:

Follow ONE Grace apostle, Paul, As he Followed [Heavenly] CHRIST?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!:
"
...The doctrine concerning the Body of Christ that is found in Paul’s letters is
vital to understanding what God is doing today...

... While it is important that we pay particular attention to Paul’s doctrine and
the revelation of the mystery, following him embraces much more....

...If we desire to follow Paul as he followed Christ, we must take a careful look
at his example as it is laid out for us in Scripture. Even a casual reading through
the Book of Acts should impress upon any believer the fact of Paul’s zeal for his
Lord and his determination to proclaim the Gospel of the Grace of God at any cost...
" (E Bedore)

Should true believers "follow Paul As he Followed Christ," or:

pick any of the 1-5 above?

FULL study:
Following Paul As he Followed CHRIST

GRACE And Peace...
 
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Robert Gwin

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Precious friends, another Confusion causing Division, is:

1) Follow God obeying All of the Bible?, or:
2) Follow Moses and the law?, or:
3) Follow [earthly] Christ and the twelve apostles?, or:
4) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias in Judas' bishopric?, or:
5) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias Paul in Judas' bishopric?, or:
or:

Follow ONE Grace apostle, Paul, As he Followed [Heavenly] CHRIST?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!:
"
...The doctrine concerning the Body of Christ that is found in Paul’s letters is
vital to understanding what God is doing today...

... While it is important that we pay particular attention to Paul’s doctrine and
the revelation of the mystery, following him embraces much more....

...If we desire to follow Paul as he followed Christ, we must take a careful look
at his example as it is laid out for us in Scripture. Even a casual reading through
the Book of Acts should impress upon any believer the fact of Paul’s zeal for his
Lord and his determination to proclaim the Gospel of the Grace of God at any cost...
" (E Bedore)

Should true believers "follow Paul As he Followed Christ," or pick any of the 1-5 above?

FULL study:
Following Paul As he Followed CHRIST

GRACE And Peace...

The best example Grace: (1 Peter 2:21-23) . . .Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely. 22 He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth. 23 When he was being insulted, he did not insult in return. When he was suffering, he did not threaten, but he entrusted himself to the One who judges righteously.
 

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The best example Grace: (1 Peter 2:21-23) . . .Christ suffered for you, leaving a model for you to follow his steps closely. 22 He committed no sin, nor was deception found in his mouth. 23 When he was being insulted, he did not insult in return. When he was suffering, he did not threaten, but he entrusted himself to the One who judges righteously.
1) Did you do a FULL study of the matter Before your answer?:

So, you say "Follow the [earthly] LORD [God] JESUS CHRIST,
Under prophecy, And The Law," (Previous dispensation) Instead Of:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

2) Under Mystery/GRACE (Current Dispensation) "Follow Paul, as he Followed
The Risen, Glorified In The (Heavens) LORD (God) JESUS CHRIST! As It Is
According To God's Inspired And Explicit Scriptures!

THE Current Example!! i.e.:

Eph_5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

1Co_4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

1Co_11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of CHRIST.​

Because:

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the
flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, Yet
Now Henceforth know we Him no more." (i.e.:

"after the [Earthly] flesh!")
Thus, All the Confusion over this is disobedience To God's Word Of
TRUTH!
(Denying Christ's Deity "As GOD!," NOT "Saved By GRACE
Through faith!!." And NOT "following Paul As he FOLLOWED Christ (God!)!!!)

Correct?

GRACE And Peace...
 

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Precious friends, another Confusion causing Division, is:

1) Follow God obeying All of the Bible?, or:
2) Follow Moses and the law?, or:
3) Follow [earthly] Christ and the twelve apostles?, or:
4) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias in Judas' bishopric?, or:
5) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias Paul in Judas' bishopric?, or:​
or:
Follow ONE Grace apostle, Paul, As he Followed [Heavenly] CHRIST?​

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!:

...The doctrine concerning the Body of Christ that is found in Paul’s letters is
vital to understanding what God is doing today...

... While it is important that we pay particular attention to Paul’s doctrine and
the revelation of the mystery, following him embraces much more....

...If we desire to follow Paul as he followed Christ, we must take a careful look
at his example as it is laid out for us in Scripture. Even a casual reading through
the Book of Acts should impress upon any believer the fact of Paul’s zeal for his
Lord and his determination to proclaim the Gospel of the Grace of God at any cost...
" (E Bedore)

Should true believers "follow Paul As he Followed Christ," or:

pick any of the 1-5 above?

FULL study:
Following Paul As he Followed CHRIST

GRACE And Peace...
'Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you,
.. and fill up that which is behind
.... of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh
...... for His body's sake, which is the church:
........ Whereof I am made a minister,
.......... according to the dispensation of God
............ which is given to me for you,
.............. to fulfil the word of God;
Even the mystery which hath been hid
.. from ages and from generations,
.... but now is made manifest to his saints:
...... To whom God would make known
........ what is the riches of the glory
.......... of this mystery among the Gentiles;
............ which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
Whom we preach, warning every man,
.. and teaching every man in all wisdom;
.... that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
...... Whereunto I also labour,
........ striving according to His working,
.......... which worketh in Me mightily.'

(Col 1:24-29)

Hello @GRACE ambassador,

As a member of the Church which is His (Christs) Body, the fullness of Him that filleth all in all (Ephesians 1:22-23). It is to the truth which had been 'hid in God' since the world began (Ephesians 3:9), and revealed to Paul at the end of the Acts period that I look. It was Divinely revealed by the risen Christ to Paul (Acts 26:16), following the departure into the blindness of unbelief of Israel, at the fulfillment of the prophecy of Isaiah 6:9-10, which was quoted by Paul in Acts 28:25-28, when salvation was sent to the Gentiles at the rejection by Israel, both in the land and in the dispersion, of their Messiah and King. It is to this revelation of God, administered by the Apostle Paul, that I look to for instruction particularly. Found in the epistles written by Paul, as, 'The Lord's Prisoner', from his imprisonment at Rome:- Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 & 2 Timothy, Titus and Philemon: The teaching of Romans 5:12-8:39 being the basis upon which these epistles rest.

Though all Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable to us, not all is about us. Within these books we have the good deposit of truth concerning 'The Mystery' (Ephesians 3), which is Christ 'in' or 'among' us (the believing among the nations), our hope of glory (Colossians 1:27). We are told, like Timothy, by Paul, to:- 'Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.' (2 Tim.1:13) .

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
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1) Did you do a FULL study of the matter Before your answer?:

So, you say "Follow the [earthly] LORD [God] JESUS CHRIST,
Under prophecy, And The Law," (Previous dispensation) Instead Of:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

2) Under Mystery/GRACE (Current Dispensation) "Follow Paul, as he Followed
The Risen, Glorified In The (Heavens) LORD (God) JESUS CHRIST! As It Is
According To God's Inspired And Explicit Scriptures!

THE Current Example!! i.e.:

Eph_5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

1Co_4:16 Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

1Co_11:1 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of CHRIST.​

Because:

2Co 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the
flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, Yet
Now Henceforth know we Him no more." (i.e.:

"after the [Earthly] flesh!")
Thus, All the Confusion over this is disobedience To God's Word Of
TRUTH!
(Denying Christ's Deity "As GOD!," NOT "Saved By GRACE
Through faith!!." And NOT "following Paul As he FOLLOWED Christ (God!)!!!)

Correct?

GRACE And Peace...

I can only recommend you obey Jesus sir, you can believe you are saved all you want, but obedience to the law of the Christ is a requirement for salvation Mat 4:10; 2 Thes 1:6-9
 

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I can only recommend you obey Jesus sir, you can believe you are saved all you want, but obedience to the law of the Christ is a requirement for salvation Mat 4:10; 2 Thes 1:6-9

Have you looked in a mirror lately and given that reflected "image" the same encouraging line as this?
 

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It’s really simple we are disciples of Christ , Christians are followers of Christ . Christ is our Lord . Christ in your the hope of Glory . Christ is the Judge of all men . Christ died for my sins . Christ is our husband and we are His bride . It’s the love of Christ which constrains us. Love others Jesus said as I have loved you etc…..
 

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Have you looked in a mirror lately and given that reflected "image" the same encouraging line as this?

Yes sir, in fact I live this: (1 Thessalonians 5:21, 22) . . .Make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine. 22 Abstain from every form of wickedness.
I have identified the faith, I live the faith, and I am very honest about that. However I am far from knowing it all sir, so if you observe me not practicing the faith, then please reveal where you think I fall short, I will always give you the Scriptural reasons of my fruits. Let's see what you have, if it is a real infraction, or a perceived one Jay. I do not get mad, so please be honest with me sir.
 

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Who should we follow?
That's easy..:)-

Jesus said:-"You have one teacher, me" (Matt 23:10)
"There is one mediator between God and men,- the man Jesus Christ" (1 Tim 2:5)
"Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith" (Heb 12:2)
"There is no other name under heaven that can save us" (Acts 4:12)


And even Paul reminded people to follow Jesus and not himself-
"One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas”; still another, “I follow Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you?" (1 Corinthians 1:12/13)
 

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Precious friends, another Confusion causing Division, is:

1) Follow God obeying All of the Bible?, or:
2) Follow Moses and the law?, or:
3) Follow [earthly] Christ and the twelve apostles?, or:
4) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias in Judas' bishopric?, or:
5) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias Paul in Judas' bishopric?, or:
or:

Follow ONE Grace apostle, Paul, As he Followed [Heavenly] CHRIST?

Nah... Apostle Paul himself commanded believers on Christ Jesus to follow Jesus, and not man, so the TRUE Christian will ALWAYS follow The Father through His Son Jesus Christ!

BEWARE BRETHREN:

Men's doctrines called Hyper-Dispensationalism, or Hyper-Grace, falsely teach that only Apostle Paul's Epistles are relevant to believing Gentiles. They try to break Apostle Paul off into his own little corner independent not only from The Gospel which the other Apostles taught, but even apart from The Gospel which Lord Jesus Himself taught, and His commandments for ALL CHRISTIANS!

That false doctrine from men actually got brewing first from John Nelson Darby's 1830's false teaching of a Pre-tribulational Rapture theory, and Darby's Dispensationalist theory. In that theory, Darby surmised that since his idea of the Church being raptured prior... to the great tribulation, and then remaining in Heaven to reign with Jesus after His return, that meant that the future restoration of Israel is on earth, while the Church is separate, and in Heaven. Of that false separation is NOT written anywhere in God's Word!

Why would Darby teach such a thing then, in addition to his teaching of a false pre-trib rapture? It is because the pre-trib rapture theory suggests a separation between Israel and the Church, when in reality per Scripture Christ's Church IS... God's Israel, and the only ones that are saved are saved by Jesus Christ, irregardless of birth. This is why Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2 used the label of "commonwealth of Israel" for the joining of all believers in Christ, including the believing Gentile. And it is also why Jesus showed that the 12 Apostles will each sit upon a throne judging the future 12 tribes of... yeah, that's right, of ISRAEL (you mean jelly bean that there will be a future ISRAEL nation in Christ unto God in His future Kingdom? That's right jelly bean!)
 

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Or possibly follow after the Holy Spirit for he is the Spirit of truth. The more we do that the more we learn as we read the bible
 
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Precious friends, another Confusion causing Division, is:

1) Follow God obeying All of the Bible?, or:
2) Follow Moses and the law?, or:
3) Follow [earthly] Christ and the twelve apostles?, or:
4) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias in Judas' bishopric?, or:
5) Follow 12 apostles, including Matthias Paul in Judas' bishopric?, or:
or:

Follow ONE Grace apostle, Paul, As he Followed [Heavenly] CHRIST?

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!:
"
...The doctrine concerning the Body of Christ that is found in Paul’s letters is
vital to understanding what God is doing today...

... While it is important that we pay particular attention to Paul’s doctrine and
the revelation of the mystery, following him embraces much more....

...If we desire to follow Paul as he followed Christ, we must take a careful look
at his example as it is laid out for us in Scripture. Even a casual reading through
the Book of Acts should impress upon any believer the fact of Paul’s zeal for his
Lord and his determination to proclaim the Gospel of the Grace of God at any cost...
" (E Bedore)

Should true believers "follow Paul As he Followed Christ," or:

pick any of the 1-5 above?

FULL study:
Following Paul As he Followed CHRIST

GRACE And Peace...
We follow God. We learn a lot about him from the Bible, but we need to develop a personal relationship with him (1 Thessalonians 5:17).