Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal Weeks Explained "Future"
Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.
If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written
(Four Hundred Ninety Years)
Thanks for this.
It reminds me of old Bobby Jo. Lol. He's the only other guy I've ever heard that said the 70 weeks were 70 literal weeks, and not weeks of years. Heptads. Sevens. Are you sure you're not Bobby Jo posting under a sock account? Lol. I don't think you are, but he did display a proclivity in the colorizing of the sentences of his posts.
As I can recall, he seemed to be using a date that Israel was internationally recognized, and adding time to that, to find out that we are in the tribulation. And some book he read about prophecies in Psalms and the shortest chapter in the Bible. I was interested in what he said because he thought we were in the tribulation in 2020. Similarly, I also think we're towards the tail end of the last heptad now. In one of the threads I think I said 2022. Right now, I think it was in the summer of 2021, around July, when the censer was cast down in Revelation 8, putting an end to both services in heaven's temple.
Daniel 9 is where it has to be happening, because it's the only place that really sets out the timing of the coming of Messiah. And He's making two visitations. One was in the first century, one is due to be happening now. But it's not the date that Israel was internationally recognized, or of the date that Jerusalem was recaptured in 1967, it's the going forth of the "command" itself, the decree, to restore Jerusalem. I doubt now's the time or the place to post all the empirical again. Other people have been looking at it since 2017 and earlier. There have been two additional decrees relating to the restoration of the Old City of Jerusalem in our modern times. They are set out at 62 weeks, (434 years), and 7 weeks, (49 years). Impossible for those two events to be random. This is where the price action really makes for market commentary. You can't get it from the text alone, like 457 BC is not written in there, anymore so than it tells us to count Passover in 30 AD. Some people were expecting things to start blowing up in 2018, or for the Two Witnesses to start shooting fire from their mouths at that time. But something different was happening.
It looks to me like some of the people in this thread think the 70th week was complete in the first century. Those people are correct. Another group thinks that the 70th week is the future end times prior the Christ's second visitation. They are also correct.
The OP group that thinks that the 70th week can be split into two and half of it moved into the future are incorrect. Prophetic time can't be stopped. It marches on. I'm sorry to say that as I know a lot of very smart people believe in the "gap" theory. But we can't just reach in and wrest out, tearing a prophetic time period in half. Too much violence is done to the language of Daniel.
The reason that both the historicists and the futurists can be correct, at two different times, is that there are multiple decrees to restore Jerusalem. These decrees are setting out two sets, two timelines, of 70 weeks. One was based on a 457 BC decree, the second set of 70 weeks was based on a decree in 1535, and confirmed again by Levi Eshkol in January 1969.
If what I'm saying is true. Some of those verses in Daniel 9 must be speaking specifically and only to what is going on right now in the second example of the 70th week.
26“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.
Verse 26 is pertaining to the first coming of Messiah only, the primary set of 70 weeks, the 70th week. It's also distinguished from the second occurrence of the 70th week, by occurring: "after the sixty-two weeks". In the second set of the 70 weeks, the intervals are reversed with the 49 year span completing just prior to the final 70th week. Newton had posited that the the 7 weeks, the 49 years, was specific to the second coming. This is why he though the intervals were split up as 7 AND 62, and not just stated as 69 weeks. The things Newton said to be looking for, appear to be here now.
Jesus dying, cut off, in the middle of the week on April 7, 30AD.
The people of Satan, the Roman Army, destroying Jerusalem.
And it gives this ancillary information, and until the end, the end we are in now, desolations are decreed to continue.
Fast forward 2000 years to the end of the second set of the 70 weeks, the 70th week in our modem time.
27Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
This is not any part of a "week" in the first century. This is a complete and full "one week" that He, Jesus, is confirming a covenant with many. It began in January 2018 with the Two Witnesses in operation. They stand before the Lord of the whole earth, not before mankind. Only God can see them. They are the measuring rod given to John that measures the inner court, the judgement of the living prior to Christ's return.
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. This is the end of probation. Two Witnesses made war on and killed. This would have been around summer 2021. There are two services in the Temple. The last one to end is seen in Revelation 8. The censer is used at the alter of incense. When that censer is cast down to earth, Jesus puts a final end to all sacrifice and offering. "He was given much incense, that he should offer
it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne.
"And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
These are multiple abominations in our modern times. Murders, adulteries, abortions, pornographies, same sex marriage, and the popularization of the Sodomite culture.
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolator.” (Satan).
There are a wide range of translations for Daniel 9 that range in disagreement, even with the original Hebrew that Daniel wrote.
Even some of the English translations the translator will insert "temple", on the wing of the "temple" Lol.
There's even one English translation what writes it like Daniel did, "Seventy seventy are decreed.
Moshe Cohen thinks there's two sets of "70" in Daniel 9, but he thinks the first "70" was that Babylonian captivity. He's fun to watch anyway.
I know all this is a bit much of a radical idea to most, but if true, it would be a good thing. It would mean Jesus is coming soon, sooner than many now are expecting. And that's what I'm in the Game for.
Peaceful Sabbath.