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Why I must Die !

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    Ricky thats what Im telling you stoning and alot of other things in Duet. are not laws they are Ordances you must learn the difference to understand.There are only Ten Laws these are direct Laws of God for all mankind Hebrew Christian, Muslim,all mankind if you follow the law of the one God you must follow these ten Laws or you are not following the one God.Exodus 20The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. 8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you. 13 "You shall not murder. 14 "You shall not commit adultery. 15 "You shall not steal. 16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. (this means Lie) 17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." 18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die." 20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning." Jer 16:11 Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law; Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: These are the Laws a Christian must follow Gods Laws These are the Laws Christ came not to change these are the only OT Laws that are in full affect.As Jag pointed out only a sinnless perfect person was allowed to cast a stone after Christ and there is no such thing as a sinnless perfect person except Christ himselfand he would not break Gods Law Thou shall not Kill anyone who kills and that includes killing yourself is against Gods Law this is why we question sucide bombers being allowed in Islam and ask which god you follow As we know killing is against Gods Law periodThe one God says Hbr 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his peopleHe will take vengeance not human beings reguardless of their so called reasons The Lord Judges not men.
     
  2. Ricky W

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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
    About John 8:7 with Deuteronomy 17:7...Are you without sin? Are you free of sin to make the decision of stoning someone to death for that particular sin? If I say, I never sinned at all in my life, I am a liar and an antichrist. If I say, I can make that decision of stoning someone to death for that particular sin, The truth is not in me and am an antichrist.Much love, Jag
    See the context Jordan. I already explain to you why act like the he sould. Because he pay attention on God Law, not his own perception.And your statement above would cause you much more question.1st. In Christian, Jesus well known as un sin, correct? Then why he didn't stone Her ?2nd. In Christian, Jesus was God. As you said on previously post, only God Hand can punish for a sinner. The question is, why Jesus doesn't punish her ?Regarding on your question on me, I must admitted that, there is to much sin on my self. But, by the time GOD Told me to do HIS LAW, STONING with the truly witnesses, and the witnesses already stone her(as sign) they seeing the fornication on her, by the name of God which GOD ORDER in HIS LAW, i will stone her. But, if i'm in the position like Jesus did, then i will not stone her, that is for sure, because that was agains to GOD LAW, but stone un guilty one.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(kriss)
    Ricky thats what Im telling you stoning and alot of other things in Duet. are not laws they are Ordances you must learn the difference to understand.There are only Ten Laws these are direct Laws of God for all mankind Hebrew Christian, Muslim,all mankind if you follow the law of the one God you must follow these ten Laws or you are not following the one God.Exodus 20The Ten Commandments 1 And God spoke all these words: 2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 3 "You shall have no other gods before [a] me. 4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments. 7 "You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. 8 "Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the LORD your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates. 11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy. 12 "Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the LORD your God is giving you. 13 "You shall not murder. 14 "You shall not commit adultery. 15 "You shall not steal. 16 "You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor. (this means Lie) 17 "You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor." 18 When the people saw the thunder and lightning and heard the trumpet and saw the mountain in smoke, they trembled with fear. They stayed at a distance 19 and said to Moses, "Speak to us yourself and we will listen. But do not have God speak to us or we will die." 20 Moses said to the people, "Do not be afraid. God has come to test you, so that the fear of God will be with you to keep you from sinning." Jer 16:11 Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshipped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law; Mat 5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: These are the Laws a Christian must follow Gods Laws These are the Laws Christ came not to change these are the only OT Laws that are in full affect.As Jag pointed out only a sinnless perfect person was allowed to cast a stone after Christ and there is no such thing as a sinnless perfect person except Christ himselfand he would not break Gods Law Thou shall not Kill anyone who kills and that includes killing yourself is against Gods Law this is why we question sucide bombers being allowed in Islam and ask which god you follow As we know killing is against Gods Law periodThe one God says Hbr 10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his peopleHe will take vengeance not human beings reguardless of their so called reasons The Lord Judges not men.
    1st. So this verse below not GOD LAW / GOD WORD / GOD COMMANDMENT ?Deuteronomy 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.As a follower of ONE GOD, are we mustn't follow HIS WORD ?IF HE gave WORD/COMMANDMENT "Thous shall not kill", then why He ordered to Kill as punishment to GOD Rule broker ! Does HE FORGOT HIS OWN WORD ?2nd. Kriss what do you call with this below ?Matthew 1515:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.3rd. And tell me what are meaning with this "are not laws they are Ordances". Give me explaination so perhaps i can understand it.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim1st. So this verse below not GOD LAW / GOD WORD / GOD COMMANDMENT ?Deuteronomy 17:7 The hands of the witnesses shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterward the hands of all the people. So thou shalt put the evil away from among you.As a follower of ONE GOD, are we mustn't follow HIS WORD ?IF HE gave WORD/COMMANDMENT "Thous shall not kill", then why He ordered to Kill as punishment to GOD Rule broker ! Does HE FORGOT HIS OWN WORD ?2nd. Kriss what do you call with this below ?Matthew 1515:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.3rd. And tell me what are meaning with this "are not laws they are Ordances". Give me explaination so perhaps i can understand it.Wallahu a'lam.
    That is the old way of beliefs. That the Jews still practice. After Christ's first time on Earth, we are to follow the New Way. And this time Christ is going to be doing the punishing, not us. And it will be through the lake of fire (hell).Hope that cleared things up.
     
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    There are only Ten Laws Ricky all the rest are called Ordinances or statutes they are rites, rituals that were taught to teach certain lessons in days of Old This was the lesson of Christ A New Way God said to kill before Christ died for all the sins of the World. The early Idol worshippers died for their own sins. After Christ All mankinds sins were payed for. With his inocent blood.They do not apply after Christ except the Ten Laws of the one God. and Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.This is speaking of a spiritual death not a physical death. and even if you thought it meant a physical death it says let him die not kill him that would break the commandment thou shall not kill You can not break one commandment to keep another common sense tells one this. And though Wakka is technically right Jews also follow the Laws of God above the ordinances and statutes
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
    About John 8:7 with Deuteronomy 17:7...Are you without sin? Are you free of sin to make the decision of stoning someone to death for that particular sin? If I say, I never sinned at all in my life, I am a liar and an antichrist. If I say, I can make that decision of stoning someone to death for that particular sin, The truth is not in me and am an antichrist.Much love, Jag
    See the context Jordan. I already explain to you why act like the he sould. Because he pay attention on God Law, not his own perception.And your statement above would cause you much more question.1st. In Christian, Jesus well known as un sin, correct? Then why he didn't stone Her ?2nd. In Christian, Jesus was God. As you said on previously post, only God Hand can punish for a sinner. The question is, why Jesus doesn't punish her ?Regarding on your question on me, I must admitted that, there is to much sin on my self. But, by the time GOD Told me to do HIS LAW, STONING with the truly witnesses, and the witnesses already stone her(as sign) they seeing the fornication on her, by the name of God which GOD ORDER in HIS LAW, i will stone her. But, if i'm in the position like Jesus did, then i will not stone her, that is for sure, because that was agains to GOD LAW, but stone un guilty one.Wallahu a'lam.Dear Ricky#1, You are correct, that Jesus did not sin. Reason is that He didn't stone her is because He removed the ORDINANCES, PRECEPTS AND RITUALS. And stoning a person is not part of the LAW, but an ORDINANCES.#2. When God came down here in the flesh (Jesus) He came down here as a simple man, being not God, so that God can die on the cross for our SINS. Reason that God didn't stone her because He was giving us an new and improved way. Once again, ORDINANCES are not part of the LAW We can not stone anyone. God will be the Judge.#3 If we do ORDINANCES like stoning a person to death is to REJECT Christ.Much love, JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(kriss)
    There are only Ten Laws Ricky
    :naughty: It's COMMANDMENT NOT LAW, don't twisted Kriss.
    all the rest are called Ordinances or statutes they are rites, rituals that were taught to teach certain lessons in days of Old This was the lesson of Christ A New Way God said to kill before Christ died for all the sins of the World. The early Idol worshippers died for their own sins. After Christ All mankinds sins were payed for. With his inocent blood.
    Those ordinances was all GOD Commandments ! And pay attention on what Jesus said on Matthew,Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. Don't you playing word with what Jesus clearly state about commandment NOT law !
    They do not apply after Christ except the Ten Laws of the one God.
    That is your own intrepretation not JesusMatthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    and Matthew 15:4 For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.This is speaking of a spiritual death not a physical death. and even if you thought it meant a physical death it says let him die not kill him that would break the commandment thou shall not kill You can not break one commandment to keep another common sense tells one this.
    Spiritual ? That was quoting on Old Testament ! You call that with spiritual ?Because that was taken from OT, it is definitely using OT ordinances to get more understand with what it saying, not using your own understanding.
    And though Wakka is technically right Jews also follow the Laws of God above the ordinances and statutes
    And that is what it though to Abraham, and others prophet include Jesus. But somehow i don't know how come you run away from what our faith father has done.Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws. If GOD appreciated on what Abraham did by keep His commandments, statutes, and Laws. Then how came you guys can said that was OLD, who do you think you are, dare to twisted GOD WORD ?Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    The commandments are the Law Ricky no ifs and or Buts They are CALLED GODS LAWS GIVEN TO MOSES BY GOD they are called commandments because we are COMMANDED by GOD to follow them there is no other Law in affect No discussions this is 100% pure fact This is GODS LAW and the ONLY LAW IN EFFECT FOR ALL MANKIND CHRISTIAN,JEW, GENTILE, AND MUSLIM ALL IF YOU BREAK GODS LAWS YOU SUFFER GODS WRATH If you are a human being you are under his Law.WE ARE UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT AND CHRIST NOT THE OLD
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(kriss)
    The commandments are the Law Ricky no ifs and or Buts They are CALLED GODS LAWS GIVEN TO MOSES BY GOD they are called commandments because we are COMMANDED by GOD to follow them there is no other Law in affect No discussions this is 100% pure fact This is GODS LAW and the ONLY LAW IN EFFECT FOR ALL MANKIND CHRISTIAN,JEW, GENTILE, AND MUSLIM ALL IF YOU BREAK GODS LAWS YOU SUFFER GODS WRATH If you are a human being you are under his Law.WE ARE UNDER THE NEW TESTAMENT AND CHRIST NOT THE OLD
    So be it as you wish.I already give what i should give according to God in OT, according Jesus in NT, according to Abraham did in OT, according to GOD COMMANDMENT about STONING in Deuteronomy 17 which is that was GOD COMMANDED not HUMAN. Now, i'm still waiting for Code_red to responsible for what he has started.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    This is extremely sad. Sorry to hear that muslims are so blinded from the truth is not even funny at all. All you did is attacking the True Living God...All you did was twisting scriptures to suit your own wicked desire...if you want to go stay with your pagan moon god, so be it.Love much, Jag (I only want to help your soul)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
     
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    Its our religion Ricky we know it not you we are released from the Old testament except for the 10 Laws of God which all humans are under if you follow the One true God if you do not follow Gods laws you follow a false god. Trying to tell us our religion that we still have to follow the old testament is wrong. Abraham's is under the old of Ordinances and Statutes, I'm sorry you don't understand this. Christ released us from the old. That's why we are called Christians.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
    This is extremely sad. Sorry to hear that muslims are so blinded from the truth is not even funny at all. All you did is attacking the True Living God...All you did was twisting scriptures to suit your own wicked desire...if you want to go stay with your pagan moon god, so be it.Love much, Jag (I only want to help your soul)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
    Nice work Jordan, it is pity on you that christ follower has behaviour like you. It is you who twisted, it commandment you change it become sin. And which one that i said according to my understanding ?And again, my God not MOON nor PAGAN my GOD can not be seeing nor any others idols with form of what in eart and heaven like the way it said in OT, i don't know your trinity pagans has done that, it's clearly your GOD has taken form of what in earth and Heaven which is GOD deny it on OT ?And who do you think the blind of not seeing it clearly ?If that make your heart hard because of truth, you not need to blasphemy on my GOD (ALLAH) by say lie on HIM, i'm not trying to insult you, but you insult me first.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(kriss)
    Its our religion Ricky we know it not you we are released from the Old testament except for the 10 Laws of God which all humans are under if you follow the One true God if you do not follow Gods laws you follow a false god. Trying to tell us our religion that we still have to follow the old testament is wrong. Abraham's is under the old of Ordinances and Statutes, I'm sorry you don't understand this. Christ released us from the old. That's why we are called Christians.
    Yes indeed it was your religion, but the scriptures is from GOD NOT yours. Every one can read it and find what the meaning is. Everyone has mind to thing and to find it out. Not to hidden it or others that not important.And it is clearly you are not follow GOD LAW and COMMANDMET, i see clearly what GOD said to Abraham, He honour Abraham becuase keeping His commandment, statutes, law which come from GOD. But you throw away some of them, and doeth not like the way Abraham did, which is GOD like it. NOT HUMAN LIKE IT.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    Actually Ricky, you can not discern which spirits is of God and what not. As long as you believe in a lie, which I can't force truth at all...there is no possisble way for you to serve Christ.My God even Christ existed way, way, way, long ago before your god did. My God even Christ existed way before Satan was created. My God even Christ gave me eyes to see and ears to hear truth.BTW, your god wants you to kill yourself (which Satan wants)...what a waste of eternal life...since my God died for your sins, that YOU may have eternal life...John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.That's why we question suicide bombers such as Kriss said.Much love, Jag (I really do care about you Ricky. I care about your soul. I love you very much)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
     
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    You are wrong Ricky Christ is God made flesh it is God who released us from the old rulesbecause they were no longer needed to teach us he fulfilled them himself he became our sacrifice he forgives all sins.He issues all punishment and Judgements. Bringing in The new was the purpose of the Old from the beginning.It does not mean we dont learn from the old we do but we are released from following all but the Ten Laws of God.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
    Actually Ricky, you can not discern which spirits is of God and what not. As long as you believe in a lie,
    Are you can ?Then tell which spirit was true between NIV and KJV claim to be with Holy Spirit but the result is different, none of you can make the different which spirit come unto you. Event you don't event seeing clearly Paul said it was not on God Word but him self word, but still you christian considered it was God Word. So which spirit that make you sure you are in right spirits ?It's very sigh that you are not known what you are talking too. Now tell me who was believe in lie ? Still at your post above, you have made lie on me, on my God, God who creator Universe, by saying to Him a MOON GOOD. Meanwhile for me and God Him self has state clearly nor in Bible and the Quran that he is no Moon or Sun, and has order human not to worship it, because those things were God made it. Now tell me, if you are not in lie, then why you gave lie statement ? So who's believe in lying here, Jordan ?(thesuperjag)
    which I can't force truth at all...there is no possisble way for you to serve Christ.
    Neither do i, cannot force the truth that i already gave you. It is your truly eyes of your heart can listen, if your heart getting hard to accept then let it free. But still i wont force what i gave you, that is your decession. No need for you blasphemy or insult others.
    My God even Christ existed way, way, way, long ago before your god did. My God even Christ existed way before Satan was created. My God even Christ gave me eyes to see and ears to hear truth.
    My God is exist before everything Exist, state clearly in the Noble Quran. My God who sent His Messenger such as Abraham and his descent, my God who has create the Universe, my God was God of Abraham, Ishmael, Isac, etc.My God which has told a lot of truth that you haven't see or know it before, nor in Torah, Injil, and Quran. It's not MOON GOOD which cannot sent anything accept only some of it light.
    BTW, your god wants you to kill yourself (which Satan wants)...
    Now lets see who believe in lie ? It is forbidden to commit suicide.
    what a waste of eternal life...since my God died for your sins, that You may have eternal life...
    Your God can died, what a funny. God wouldn't die no matter what, God Strong and everlasting.Genesis 21:33 And Abraham planted a grove in Beersheba, and called there on the name of the LORD, the everlasting God.
    John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.That's why we question suicide bombers such as Kriss said.
    That was only in war situation, and the destination is clear, ENEMY of WAR.
    Much love, Jag (I really do care about you Ricky. I care about your soul. I love you very much)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
    I love human, and i hate insulting someone unless they start to insult. I hate evil thing that done by human, and i hate human behaviour that alway out of God rule. I do care to all of you, that's why i often to be patience eventhought some of you threat me with the other ways.Attitude if proofing of what we have said Jordan.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(kriss)
    You are wrong Ricky Christ is God made flesh it is God who released us from the old rulesbecause they were no longer needed to teach us he fulfilled them himself he became our sacrifice he forgives all sins.He issues all punishment and Judgements. Bringing in The new was the purpose of the Old from the beginning.It does not mean we dont learn from the old we do but we are released from following all but the Ten Laws of God.
    There isn't God that made flesh.Event Jesus him self state clearly, God is Spirit.Event the 10 Commandments that you brought clearly state : Not to worship or make an idols of form what is in the earth and the heaven. Now tell me, flesh is that one kind of form that is in earth and the heaven ? Then why you make an idols/worship it ?And as i said before, you are follow some and throw some others, of GOD Commanded, your statement above clearly indicate that.I have said what i have to say, it is your clean heart that can see it, not your passion.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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    And Jesus said if you have seen me you have seen the father I have tried to explain this to you before even your religion places Jesus above Mohammand if I remember right. Jesus is God they are one. There is only one God he can just fill different roles we call these 3 roles (offices) trinty. But there is only one God Christ is a (office) role a part of God made flesh to defeat Satan(sin) for all time. Whether you accept Christ or not the Law of God is still the law of God and you ignore it how do you claim to be so right when you follow a man mohammed over the one true God
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiim(thesuperjag)
    Actually Ricky, you can not discern which spirits is of God and what not. As long as you believe in a lie,
    Are you can ?Then tell which spirit was true between NIV and KJV claim to be with Holy Spirit but the result is different, none of you can make the different which spirit come unto you. Event you don't event seeing clearly Paul said it was not on God Word but him self word, but still you christian considered it was God Word. So which spirit that make you sure you are in right spirits ?It's very sigh that you are not known what you are talking too. Now tell me who was believe in lie ? Still at your post above, you have made lie on me, on my God, God who creator Universe, by saying to Him a MOON GOOD. Meanwhile for me and God Him self has state clearly nor in Bible and the Quran that he is no Moon or Sun, and has order human not to worship it, because those things were God made it. Now tell me, if you are not in lie, then why you gave lie statement ? So who's believe in lying here, Jordan ?(thesuperjag)
    which I can't force truth at all...there is no possisble way for you to serve Christ.
    Neither do i, cannot force the truth that i already gave you. It is your truly eyes of your heart can listen, if your heart getting hard to accept then let it free. But still i wont force what i gave you, that is your decession. No need for you blasphemy or insult others.(thesuperjag)
    My God even Christ existed way, way, way, long ago before your god did. My God even Christ existed way before Satan was created. My God even Christ gave me eyes to see and ears to hear truth.
    My God is exist before everything Exist, state clearly in the Noble Quran. My God who sent His Messenger such as Abraham and his descent, my God who has create the Universe, my God was God of Abraham, Ishmael, Isac, etc.My God which has told a lot of truth that you haven't see or know it before, nor in Torah, Injil, and Quran. It's not MOON GOOD which cannot sent anything accept only some of it light.(thesuperjag)
    BTW, your god wants you to kill yourself (which Satan wants)...
    Now lets see who believe in lie ?It is forbidden to commit suicide.(thesuperjag)
    what a waste of eternal life...since my God died for your sins, that You may have eternal life...
    Your God can died, what a funny. God wouldn't die no matter what, God Strong and everlasting.Genesis 21:33 And Abraham planted a grove in Beersheba, and called there on the name of the LORD, the everlasting God. (thesuperjag)
    John 10:10 - The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.That's why we question suicide bombers such as Kriss said.
    That was only in war situation, and the destination is clear, ENEMY of WAR.(thesuperjag)
    Much love, Jag (I really do care about you Ricky. I care about your soul. I love you very much)Lovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
    I love human, and i hate insulting someone unless they start to insult. I hate evil thing that done by human, and i hate human behaviour that alway out of God rule. I do care to all of you, that's why i often to be patience eventhought some of you threat me with the other ways.Attitude if proofing of what we have said Jordan.Wallahu a'lam.Well, if you have notice Ricky, I was not even close of attacking to be honest. I was merely saying a fact that you guys are blinded from seeing the truth. And I was attacking the spirit of the antichrists.You see...My God and your god can not be the same God.1. My God has a begotten Son.Your god, does not have a begotten Son.2. My God said that Jesus died on a cross.Your god said that Jesus didn't die on the cross, but Judas.3. My God can not change his mind, He has kept all of his promises. And the Son is the last thing we have. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me"Your god changes his mind to suit your prophet Muhammad own sinful, wicked desire.That's proof right there we do not worship the same God. One is alive, the other one is dead. One is truth, the other lies and contradict itself.On another note...between the NIV, and KJV, The NIV is authored by Satan. I'll stick with Christ, who can not lie, nor did He sin. Not your wicked prophet.Love much, JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
     
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    A'udzubillaahiminasysyaithonirrojiimBismillaahirrohmaanirrohiiim(thesuperjag)
    Well, if you have notice Ricky, I was not even close of attacking to be honest.
    That is good if you are, but it is sigh that you aren't.However i respected of what you just said that above.
    I was merely saying a fact that you guys are blinded from seeing the truth. And I was attacking the spirit of the antichrists.
    You are not telling fact, but lie. I already show you, that you are lie agains me, my God, God of the Universe by saying on Him, Moon God, meanwhile we are not like the way you said, not event once cross in my mind. And thats you call FACT/TRUTH ? You are in deep believe of lie Jordan.
    You see...My God and your god can not be the same God.
    That's depent on how you saw and perception on it.
    1. My God has a begotten Son.Your god, does not have a begotten Son.
    Correct.
    2. My God said that Jesus died on a cross.Your god said that Jesus didn't die on the cross, but Judas.
    Show me the verse that Elohiym said that Jesus died on a cross ?And show me your proof that My God said that Judas was on the cross ?
    3. My God can not change his mind, He has kept all of his promises. And the Son is the last thing we have. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life, no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me"
    If He is not change his mind, than why circumcise hasn't been release, meanwhile He said for everlasting covenant.17:7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God. 17:9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. 17:10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcise.If your God don't change His mind, then why His Ordinances being replace by new one ?
    Your god changes his mind to suit your prophet Muhammad own sinful, wicked desire.
    Which one that state that ?
    That's proof right there we do not worship the same God. One is alive, the other one is dead. One is truth, the other lies and contradict itself.
    All contradict is in your Bible, Who living God ? You, no... you said your God DEADTH. And you already judge without learn it very well yet.
    On another note...between the NIV, and KJV, The NIV is authored by Satan. I'll stick with Christ, who can not lie, nor did He sin. Not your wicked prophet.Love much, JagLovest ye in Christ Yahshua our Lord and Saviour.
    Does Christ is the one who wrote the KJV ?Does KJV was GOD STAMP translation ? Or human do ?Christ cannot die, but at other place you said die [​IMG] ? And not just, your God also being Cursed. What a God.Wallahu a'lam.
     
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