Why is Mary blessed?

[BreadOfLife]

I don't really know your point here. I thought it was obvious. The is no other hidden reason for Mary being blessed by YHWH.
If you are trying to show when/where in Luke, Mary is called 'Blessed,' and that it means something hidden and significant, then please let me know what you think it is..
Luke 1:28 Mary is called 'highly favored' or blessed
Luke 1:30 Mary is favored by YHWH
In verse 42 Elizabeth says Mary is blessed among other women. Elizabeth was filled with the Spirit and her words were of the Spirit (YHWH)
In verse 45 Mary is again spoken of as being blessed.
In verse 48 in Mary's song again says she is blessed.

So what is the connection according to you about Mary being blessed and her consenting to be blessed as the mother of Yahshua? Where in scripture do you think Mary consents/ed to be the mother of Yahshua?
What is your point here?

Thanks

APAK

Actually - Mary is called, "Kecharitomene."

The Greek word is "Kecharitomene" that Luke used in his Gospel (v.1:28), is the perfect passive participle and indicates a completed action with permanent result. It translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”
This indicates that Mary was perfected in grace before the Angel's greeting.

Kecharitomene is not a mere description here. It is used as a title, a NAME - similar to the name changes of Abram/Abraham and Jacob/Israel. She is the ONLY person in ALL of Scripture to have this title.

The Angel didn’t say, “Hail Mary, full of grace.”
He said, "Hail Kecharitomene."

 

[APAK]

Actually - Mary is called, "Kecharitomene."

The Greek word is "Kecharitomene" that Luke used in his Gospel (v.1:28), is the perfect passive participle and indicates a completed action with permanent result. It translates, “completely, perfectly, enduringly endowed with grace.”
This indicates that Mary was perfected in grace before the Angel's greeting.

Kecharitomene is not a mere description here. It is used as a title, a NAME - similar to the name changes of Abram/Abraham and Jacob/Israel. She is the ONLY person in ALL of Scripture to have this title.

The Angel didn’t say, “Hail Mary, full of grace.”
He said, "Hail Kecharitomene."

BOL you have the wrong person concerning what you thought I said, concerning the angel speaking to Mary in verse 28. You should direct your concern and post to @theefaith who cited what the angel said to Mary in verse 28, in the OP and later on..Posts #1 and #9. I said she was 'highly favored,' in my Post #5. See for yourself. So what is your point that you would like to make anyway? It sounds like you are trying to make a point of significance here. Mary you say now wears an actual title that transforms he to a significant person as Abraham. So what, is she then more than human and more significant than Abraham today? And then if you think this, then in what way according to scripture?

Blessings,

APAK

 

[BreadOfLife]

BOL you have the wrong person concerning what you thought I said, concerning the angel speaking to Mary in verse 28. You should direct your concern and post to @theefaith who cited what the angel said to Mary in verse 28, in the OP and later on..Posts #1 and #9. I said she was 'highly favored,' in my Post #5. See for yourself. So what is your point that you would like to make anyway? It sounds like you are trying to make a point of significance here. Mary you say now wears an actual title that transforms he to a significant person as Abraham. So what, is she then more than human and more significant than Abraham today? And then if you think this, then in what way according to scripture?

Blessings,

APAK

I wasn’t trying to argue with you – I was simply correcting the poor translation of “highly favoured”.
That is a FAR too simplified translation of “Kecharitomene”.

As for Mary’s significance – it’s not ME who is making a big fuss about her – it’s GOD.
HE is the one who chose to make her Kecharitomene. As I stated earlier – NOBODY else in ALL of Scripture is called by this title.

 

[APAK]

I wasn’t trying to argue with you – I was simply correcting the poor translation of “highly favoured”.
That is a FAR too simplified translation of “Kecharitomene”.

As for Mary’s significance – it’s not ME who is making a big fuss about her – it’s GOD.
HE is the one who chose to make her Kecharitomene. As I stated earlier – NOBODY else in ALL of Scripture is called by this title.

I know the Greek word well....one translation is what you stated.....

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Full of Grace ? two people were claimed to be such in the Bible.
St Stephen is Nathaniel I believe and not Bart or maybe he is Bart as well ?

When one has the true understanding of what the RCC position is as in regards to the doctrine on Grace, one is of God's people one could say, God knows you, the two are abiding in one as we are the body = the Church and the Church is Mary, as one could say in a Spiritual way, as Jesus is the Head, the Holy Spirit. now one can expand much more on that subject I know.

Sadly many love to claim Mary as nothing in fact I have seen that they demand it totally, but that's another who bag of worms one could bring up, now there could be something in this, as to why they want to reject any value of Mary ?
Without Mary there would be no Jesus Christ ?
I believe that such who reject Mary or work to undermine the fundamentals have another Jesus, not to mention that such people rant and rave about the so called Jews and the so called State that they claim is Israel, not to mention peddling this being the work of God, well I am convinced it's all the work of man and nothing at all to do with God at all.
I do not look to the Jews or any mans works for being worthy of God, because God does not work that way at all, so such is not adding up as Gods way, but only mans works I clearly see tempting God in fact all around us. that's got nothing to do with Salvation at all, in fact such lacks Grace and does injury to our Lord and Saviour, they think that they can bypass Jesus Christ and peddle another Jesus is coming, when the fact is Christ Jesus is within our grasp now, not only just another event down the track as they only peddle. they think that Jesus has abandoned us, such proves they have not truly been born again because if they were they were they would know him now, they are seeking because they have not been found.
Once found you are Content in him yourself and you know his will and abide in him end of story.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Full of Grace ? two people were claimed to be such in the Bible.
St Stephen is Nathaniel I believe and not Bart or maybe he is Bart as well ?

When one has the true understanding of what the RCC position is as in regards to the doctrine on Grace, one is of God's people one could say, God knows you, the two are abiding in one as we are the body = the Church and the Church is Mary, as one could say in a Spiritual way, as Jesus is the Head, the Holy Spirit. now one can expand much more on that subject I know.

Sadly many love to claim Mary as nothing in fact I have seen that they demand it totally, but that's another who bag of worms one could bring up, now there could be something in this, as to why they want to reject any value of Mary ?
Without Mary there would be no Jesus Christ ?
I believe that such who reject Mary or work to undermine the fundamentals have another Jesus, not to mention that such people rant and rave about the so called Jews and the so called State that they claim is Israel, not to mention peddling this being the work of God, well I am convinced it's all the work of man and nothing at all to do with God at all.
I do not look to the Jews or any mans works for being worthy of God, because God does not work that way at all, so such is not adding up as Gods way, but only mans works I clearly see tempting God in fact all around us. that's got nothing to do with Salvation at all, in fact such lacks Grace and does injury to our Lord and Saviour, they think that they can bypass Jesus Christ and peddle another Jesus is coming, when the fact is Christ Jesus is within our grasp now, not only just another event down the track as they only peddle. they think that Jesus has abandoned us, such proves they have not truly been born again because if they were they were they would know him now, they are seeking because they have not been found.
Once found you are Content in him yourself and you know his will and abide in him end of story.

You're correct about Stephen. He is said to be "full of grace" (khar'-ece) in Acts 6:8.
Strange that the KJV renders this word as "Faith".

Anyway, this is not the word used for Mary oi Luke 1:28. "Kecharitomene" has much deeper implications, as I explained earlier, because it describes a past event with a permanent result. I think that THIS is why people resent Mary and accuse Catholics of "worshiping" her.
We're simply acknowledging what the word of God has already proclaimed about her.

 

[theefaith]

In Mary is all our hope for salvation!

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

I think the first declaration of Blessed is connected to “full of grace” or that it is an indication of Her immaculate conception!

reference Lk 1:49! Also For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

things (pleural) one is the immaculate conception the other is the Holy Spirit vs 35

This is Catholic spin of the worst kind.

Forget the catechism, use your Bible instead.

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

In Mary is all our hope for salvation!

Nothing could be further from the truth. Mary in no way contributes to the salvation of anyone.

Maryolatry is a dreadful sin.

I live in the Phoenix Metro area. I went to the Phoenix diocese and obtained these facts.

Our Lady of Guadalupe Mission, Aguila

St. Rose Philippine Duchesne Church, Anthem

St. Thomas Aquinas Church, Avondale

St. Philip Benizi Mission, Black Canyon City

St. Henry Church, Buckeye

Our Lady of Joy Church, Carefree

St. William Church, Cashion

St. Gabriel the Archangel, Cave Creek

St. Andrew the Apostle Church, Chandler

St. Mary Church, Chandler

St. Columba Kim Korean Church, Chandler

Santa Teresita Church, El Mirage

Ascension Church, Fountain Hills

St. Michael Mission, Gila Bend

St. Anne Church, Gilbert

St. Mary Magdalene Church, Gilbert

Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Glendale

St. Helen Church, Glendale

St. James Church, Glendale

St. Louis the King Church, Glendale

St. Raphael Church, Glendale

St. Thomas More Church, Glendale

St. John Vianney Church, Goodyear

Our Lady of Guadalupe Church, Guadalupe

St. John the Baptist Church, Komatke Gila River Indian Community Mission[8]

All Saints Church, Mesa

Christ the King Church, Mesa

Holy Cross Church, Mesa

Queen of Peace Church, Mesa

St. Bridget Church, Mesa

St. Timothy Church, Mesa

All Saints Catholic Newman Center, Tempe ASU

Good Shepherd Mission, New River

St. Charles Borromeo Church, Peoria

Cathedral of Saints Simon and Jude, Phoenix

Corpus Christi Church, Phoenix

Holy Family Church, Phoenix

Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, Phoenix

Most Holy Trinity Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of Czestochowa Polish Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of the Valley Church, Phoenix

Sacred Heart Church, Phoenix

St. Agnes Church, Phoenix

St. Anthony Church, Phoenix

St. Augustine Church, Phoenix

St. Benedict Church, Phoenix

St. Catherine of Siena Church, Phoenix

St. Edward the Confessor Church, Phoenix

St. Francis Xavier Church, Phoenix

St. Gregory Church, Phoenix

St. Jerome Church, Phoenix

St. Joan of Arc Church, Phoenix

St. Joseph Church, Phoenix

St. Luke Church, Phoenix

St. Mark Church, Phoenix

St. Martin de Porres Church, Phoenix

St. Mary's Basilica, Phoenix

Mater Misericordiae Mission[9] Tridentine Latin Masses, Phoenix

St. Matthew Church, Phoenix

St. Paul Church, Phoenix

St. Theresa Church, Phoenix

St. Thomas the Apostle Church, Phoenix

St. Vincent de Paul Church, Phoenix

Vietnamese Martyrs Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of Fatima Mission, Phoenix

St. Dominic Mission, Rio Verde

St. Francis of Assisi Mission, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community

St. Paschal Baylon Chapel, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community

San Lucy Mission, San Lucy Village of the Tohono O'odham Nation, Gila Bend

Blessed Sacrament Church, Scottsdale

Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Scottsdale

Our Lady of the Angels Conventual Franciscan Church and Renewal Center, Scottsdale, a ministry of the OFM Franciscan Province of Saint Barbara[10]

St. Bernadette Church, Scottsdale

St. Bernard of Clairvaux Church, Scottsdale

St. Daniel the Prophet Church, Scottsdale

St. Maria Goretti Church, Scottsdale

St. Patrick Church, Scottsdale

St. Clement of Rome Church, Sun City

St. Elizabeth Seton Church, Sun City

St. Joachim and St. Anne Church, Sun City

Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Sun City West

Prince of Peace Church, Sun City West (part of Our Lady of Lourdes Parish)

St. Steven Church, Sun Lakes

St. Clare of Assisi Church, Surprise

All Saints Catholic Newman Center, Tempe ASU

Holy Spirit Church, Tempe

14 churches named for Mary

More than 60 named for Saints.

5 churches for Jesus Christ.

I can only conclude that Jesus is in last place for the Catholic Church. You do the math.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Nothing could be further from the truth. Mary in no way contributes to the salvation of anyone.

Maryolatry is a dreadful sin.

I live in the Phoenix Metro area. I went to the Phoenix diocese and obtained these facts.

Our Lady of Guadalupe Mission, Aguila

St. Rose Philippine Duchesne Church, Anthem

St. Thomas Aquinas Church, Avondale

St. Philip Benizi Mission, Black Canyon City

St. Henry Church, Buckeye

Our Lady of Joy Church, Carefree

St. William Church, Cashion

St. Gabriel the Archangel, Cave Creek

St. Andrew the Apostle Church, Chandler

St. Mary Church, Chandler

St. Columba Kim Korean Church, Chandler

Santa Teresita Church, El Mirage

Ascension Church, Fountain Hills

St. Michael Mission, Gila Bend

St. Anne Church, Gilbert

St. Mary Magdalene Church, Gilbert

Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Glendale

St. Helen Church, Glendale

St. James Church, Glendale

St. Louis the King Church, Glendale

St. Raphael Church, Glendale

St. Thomas More Church, Glendale

St. John Vianney Church, Goodyear

Our Lady of Guadalupe Church, Guadalupe

St. John the Baptist Church, Komatke Gila River Indian Community Mission[8]

All Saints Church, Mesa

Christ the King Church, Mesa

Holy Cross Church, Mesa

Queen of Peace Church, Mesa

St. Bridget Church, Mesa

St. Timothy Church, Mesa

All Saints Catholic Newman Center, Tempe ASU

Good Shepherd Mission, New River

St. Charles Borromeo Church, Peoria

Cathedral of Saints Simon and Jude, Phoenix

Corpus Christi Church, Phoenix

Holy Family Church, Phoenix

Immaculate Heart of Mary Church, Phoenix

Most Holy Trinity Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of Czestochowa Polish Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of the Valley Church, Phoenix

Sacred Heart Church, Phoenix

St. Agnes Church, Phoenix

St. Anthony Church, Phoenix

St. Augustine Church, Phoenix

St. Benedict Church, Phoenix

St. Catherine of Siena Church, Phoenix

St. Edward the Confessor Church, Phoenix

St. Francis Xavier Church, Phoenix

St. Gregory Church, Phoenix

St. Jerome Church, Phoenix

St. Joan of Arc Church, Phoenix

St. Joseph Church, Phoenix

St. Luke Church, Phoenix

St. Mark Church, Phoenix

St. Martin de Porres Church, Phoenix

St. Mary's Basilica, Phoenix

Mater Misericordiae Mission[9] Tridentine Latin Masses, Phoenix

St. Matthew Church, Phoenix

St. Paul Church, Phoenix

St. Theresa Church, Phoenix

St. Thomas the Apostle Church, Phoenix

St. Vincent de Paul Church, Phoenix

Vietnamese Martyrs Church, Phoenix

Our Lady of Fatima Mission, Phoenix

St. Dominic Mission, Rio Verde

St. Francis of Assisi Mission, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community

St. Paschal Baylon Chapel, Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community

San Lucy Mission, San Lucy Village of the Tohono O'odham Nation, Gila Bend

Blessed Sacrament Church, Scottsdale

Our Lady of Perpetual Help Church, Scottsdale

Our Lady of the Angels Conventual Franciscan Church and Renewal Center, Scottsdale, a ministry of the OFM Franciscan Province of Saint Barbara[10]

St. Bernadette Church, Scottsdale

St. Bernard of Clairvaux Church, Scottsdale

St. Daniel the Prophet Church, Scottsdale

St. Maria Goretti Church, Scottsdale

St. Patrick Church, Scottsdale

St. Clement of Rome Church, Sun City

St. Elizabeth Seton Church, Sun City

St. Joachim and St. Anne Church, Sun City

Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Sun City West

Prince of Peace Church, Sun City West (part of Our Lady of Lourdes Parish)

St. Steven Church, Sun Lakes

St. Clare of Assisi Church, Surprise

All Saints Catholic Newman Center, Tempe ASU

Holy Spirit Church, Tempe

14 churches named for Mary

More than 60 named for Saints.

5 churches for Jesus Christ.

I can only conclude that Jesus is in last place for the Catholic Church. You do the math.

And that just goes to show that you DON'T understand the Body of Christ.
They are ALL in Christ.

A church building that is named for a saint contains a relic of that saint - usually in the altar.
The altar - AND the entire Church building is dedicated to CHRIST - because it is the celebration of His ETERNAL sacrifice (Heb. 7:25, Rev. 13:8) that takes place in that building.

The saint is not being worshipped. He or she is commemorated for being a faithful servant of CHRIST.
Paul himself stated the following:
1 Cor. 11:1
Be imitators of ME, as I am of Christ.

So, once again - your math is wrong . . .

 

[Spurgeon's Girl]

And that just goes to show that you DON'T understand the Body of Christ.
They are ALL in Christ.

A church building that is named for a saint contains a relic of that saint - usually in the altar.
The altar - AND the entire Church building is dedicated to CHRIST - because it is the celebration of His ETERNAL sacrifice (Heb. 7:25, Rev. 13:8) that takes place in that building.

The saint is not being worshipped. He or she is commemorated for being a faithful servant of CHRIST.
Paul himself stated the following:
1 Cor. 11:1
Be imitators of ME, as I am of Christ.

So, once again - your math is wrong . . .

Did you happen to read 1 Corinthians 1, starting with verse 1 before you got to Chapter 11:1?

This is what Paul says about Saints:

1 Corinthians 1:2

2 To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

Did you even read all of Chapter 11?

What's the main idea in this Chapter.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Did you happen to read 1 Corinthians 1, starting with verse 1 before you got to Chapter 11:1?

This is what Paul says about Saints:

1 Corinthians 1:2

2 To the church of God that is in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints together with all those who in every place call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, both their Lord and ours:

Did you even read all of Chapter 11?

What's the main idea in this Chapter.

NOT sure what that has to do with YOUR contention that naming a building after a saint takes attention away from Christ.
If solidifies faith IN Christ - it's doesn't detract FROM Him.

 

[PGS11]

No Catholic is required to believe in Mary or follow anything said about her - its consider private revelation anything said contrary is a lie. All we know about Mary is in the bible especially the Gospel of Luke nothing more. It appears Luke must of spoken to her before he wrote his gospel they are things only she would of known.

 

[Pearl]

No that blessed is in verse 45 & 48

But She was declared “blessed” before She consented to be the mother of the savior.

so why was She blessed?

Because she was chosen above all women to bear God's Son.

 

[farouk]

Because she was chosen above all women to bear God's Son.

@Pearl Blessed indeed; she indeed said, 'My spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour' (Luke 1.47).

 

[theefaith]

No Catholic is required to believe in Mary or follow anything said about her - its consider private revelation anything said contrary is a lie. All we know about Mary is in the bible especially the Gospel of Luke nothing more. It appears Luke must of spoken to her before he wrote his gospel they are things only she would of known.

what about the dogmas of Mary?

 

[theefaith]

@Pearl Blessed indeed; she indeed said, 'My spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour' (Luke 1.47).

yet she was conceived without sin

 

[Pearl]

yet she was conceived without sin

She was not conceived without sin, she was normal girl. Only Jesus was conceived without sin. He was the only one ever to be conceived without sin. And I'd like to know where in the bible it says Mary was.

 

[theefaith]

She was not conceived without sin, she was normal girl. Only Jesus was conceived without sin. He was the only one ever to be conceived without sin. And I'd like to know where in the bible it says Mary was.

gen 3:15 enmity between her and Satan
None of his works are found in her

Lk 1:28 full of grace
Lk 1:30 found favor with God
The grace of salvation lost by Adam Mary brought into the world
Lk 1:49 He that is mighty has done great things (plural) to me
1) the immaculate conception of Mary
2) the miraculous conception of Jesus by The HS

rev 12:1 clothed with the sun
Immaculate purity

 

[Pearl]

Quote all you like tf, but none of those passages say or even imply, that Mary was conceived without sin. She was conceived in the normal way by a man and a woman who were still sinners because Jesus hadn't yet come into the world. It is amazing to me that such massively big doctrines arise from such flimsy evidence.

But then again some people refuse to look for the truth; clinging instead to the misguided version of it that they are spoon fed with from birth.