Why Is Western Christianity So Soft?

[Nancy]

Nice try at changing what you said earlier: He runs everything from education, politics, huge corporations, entertainment...there is also the name given to Satan: "Prince of the power of the air", that could cover outer space, air waves....MEDIA!".

You're claiming that Satan runs education (including Christian education?), politics (all politics?, huge corporations (but not small ones? LOL!), entertainment (including Christian entertainment?), and whatever is sent over the air waves? Seriously?

You are just spouting absurd generalizations. As I have said earlier, that practice is nothing but self-glorification! "Look how pure, holy, and righteous I am, everyone!" Everyone else in education, politics, the corporate world, entertainment is possessed by Satan, but I alone am pure and righteous!

Here are some of Jesus' words you might meditate on: "Come to me, all you who are weary and are carrying heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30

Are to blind to see the difference in tone and meaning between Jesus' words of caring, love and forgiveness, and your condemnation of everyone but your righteous self?

Ya know, now you are quoting me and attributing it to @Rita !

 

[Jim B]

I never said anything earlier - perhaps you need to check who you are quoting and actually re read what I actually asked. I said nothing about satan controlling, but asked you if you didn’t believe he was influencing things in this world !

LOL!!! Rewording what you said doesn't work. You said what you said. Admit it.

 

[Jim B]

Ya know, now you are quoting me and attributing it to @Rita !

My mistake. You are just two women who post nearly identical nonsense.

 

[Jim B]

Not being funny Jim, have you read some of your own responses to people here on the forum .
Just an observation !

No, I have no idea what I wrote. LOL!!!

 

[Jim B]

When Jesus, quoting the Old Testament, said to love your neighbor as yourself, how does translate into judging your neighbor, as some on this thread are prone to do?

As I have said before, judging others in general, people whom you have never met, is the opposite of spreading the good news about Jesus Christ and salvation. It isn't that hard to understand!

By judging others, just like the Pharisee in the parable in Luke 18, some people falsely exalt themselves. But who went home justified? The tax collector! Not the judgmental Pharisee, who was righteous in his own eyes, but not in reality!, "... for all who exalt themselves will be humbled, but all who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:9, which precedes the parable, gives the answer: He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and regarded others with contempt. SOUND FAMILIAR?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

That doesn't compare to the persecution that Jewish people have been subjected to since seemingly time began.

The fact is that the so called Jews have turned from God in fact and brought it all on themselves in fact.

The Real Israel is Christian in fact and every worthy Christian knows this in fact, for they who claim to be Jews are from the ones who were lead astray from God by the ones who crept in unawares ?

Them Jews who were Jesus Disciples became the first Christians in fact and no Goyim were among them who were worthy of God.

Christianity did not start with the Goyim at all, it started from the worthy Jews of God and progressed from their on !

So their is no legit Jews worthy preaching the OT. Christians know the OT as it's our blueprint ! True Christianity is Israel in fact !
Outside of Christ Jesus is not worthy at all !

No one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son and if you reject that you are of Satan.

Them poor stupid Jews who were lead astray 2000 years ago and today are still condemned for they are lost not worthy of God at all ! for they reject Grace !

Anyone who rejects Grace is a total moron ! for without Grace you are under the Law, Nazis and Communist are under the Law ! for they have not Grace !
Socialism does not have Grace ! it is a mans works religion in fact and nothing to do with God at all !

If we all abide in Christ Jesus all will be good sailing in fact but outside of that will be your own doing, such is cursed !

Christianity is not about race, it's about being Saved and the Kingdom of God, Not this world that is full of delusions and deceptions.

Anyone who thinks the Jew is going to save you is not saved, for the Jew is not saved but for a Christian regardless of what race they may claim. It's about, do you know who your Salvation is in for your Soul ! You must be the body of Christ Jesus in fact and him your Head ! for outside of that one is not worthy at all in fact.

 

[Rita]

LOL!!! Rewording what you said doesn't work. You said what you said. Admit it.

Calling me a liar ………..

 

[Rita]

My mistake. You are just two women who post nearly identical nonsense.

So, no grace to apologise to me and it would appear you can’t answer a simple question. Never mind !

 

[Patrick1966]

So, no grace to apologise to me and it would appear you can’t answer a simple question. Never mind !

Don't take it personally, Jim hates everyone.

 

[Rita]

Don't take it personally, Jim hates everyone.

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I wasn’t offended, it says more about him than me. Admitting a mistake and then just critiquing ‘ two women ‘ …..If he chooses to judge me and @Nancy then He obviously needs to read the scriptures he posted about judging others ……
Anyway this needs to get back on topic ……..

 

[Rita]

Despite the false claims of leftist Fake News, Christianity is the single most persecuted group in the world - not women, not gays, not transgenders, blacks or browns...Christians. While there are good people doing a good job raising awareness of the plight of our global Christian family - such as Voice of the Martyrs, Open Doors, ACLJ - sadly, most Christians don't know what's going on a mere few feet beyond their own church parking lot. If we did, maybe we'd be far less easily offended, easily discouraged, and less likely to give up on God when the going gets tough as often is the case.

In far away lands, Christian women are raped and jailed, their children taken into custody, Christian men and pastors are imprisoned, tortured, killed, churches are targeted and firebombed, governments of pagan countries hostile toward Christianity offer little to no protection, and even far worse atrocities are widespread across the Christian world...but here in the West it's another story.

Here, we enjoy religious freedom. We enjoy the 1st Amendment which forbids state sponsored religion. We enjoy Section 8 of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 which guarantees workplace religious freedom. We enjoy 501(c)3 tax exempt status which allows billions to be put to use for the cause of God, but much of which is sadly pocketed by unscrupulous "preachers". Yet, in all this, many Christians live under the apprehension that their world will end at any moment. Their boyfriend will break up with them, their church may not re-elect them to that coveted position of leadership, they may be seen as kooky by their secular friends if they join a church, they may even face "difficulties" at home from an unbelieving spouse if they decide to follow Jesus, which often don't go beyond mild annoyance by their significant other. Western Christianity seems to be the weakest spiritually than anywhere else. As that comprehensive Willow Creek church study proved, the more money we throw at this ministry or that ministry, the lesser the positive outcome. Christian divorce is on the rise, children abandon their faith in college for atheistic evolution due to their indiferent "Christian" parents having failed to teach them the difference between Biblically accurate science and the false science of the atheistic scientific community, church attendance wanes, immorality/alcohol/drug/porn addiction is on the rise among believers - the wretchedness of Western Christianity seems to only grow worse and worse.

I think we need to go back to the beginning. We need to get back to our "first love" and "remember from whence thou hast fallen". We need to develop a thankful heart for what we have instead of resenting God for what we think we've be unjustly denied. What we need is a generous dose of persecution:

"The apostle Paul declares that 'all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.' Why is it, then, that persecution seems in a great degree to slumber? The only reason is that the church has conformed to the world's standard and therefore awakens no opposition....It is only because of the spirit of compromise with sin, because the great truths of the Word of God are so indifferently regarded, because there is so little vital godliness in the church, that Christianity is apparently so popular with the world. Let there be a revival of faith and power of the early church, and the spirit of persecution will be revived, and the fires of persecution will be rekindled." —The Great Controversy, 48.​

Good and challenging post. I use to follow Open doors and what Christians were facing in China was/is awful. Read a few books by brother Yan ( Ironically he now comes to the western world to preach the gospel ) His testimony is amazing.
Paul learnt to trust the Lord in all circumstances, and to praise. The materialistic world that the west has become dependent on and the attitudes that ‘ what we want is the priority ‘ has marred many things. The Apostles and disciples, and the persecuted churches / Christians had/ have to rely on God alone ……….sadly We rely on a whole bunch of things at times, So Jesus loses his place within our hearts and that has a knock on effect on what we experience and how we Impact the society in which we live.
Thank you for the OP x
Rita

 

[Patrick1966]

Christianity is the single most persecuted group in the world

Jewish people have been the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of human history.

 

[ChristisGod]

Jewish people have been the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of human history.

The people of God have been the most persecuted including both Jews and Gentiles, Christians and Jews.

 

[Jim B]

So, no grace to apologise to me and it would appear you can’t answer a simple question. Never mind !

I won't!

 

[Jim B]

Not being funny Jim, have you read some of your own responses to people here on the forum .
Just an observation !

No, I haven't read the posts that I wrote. Seriously, are you nuts???

 

[Jim B]

Don't take it personally, Jim hates everyone.

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What kind of nonsense is that? I love some people and like most people. You are the one who is intolerant. And your absurd video shows how mired in garbage that you are.

 

[Jim B]

I wasn’t offended, it says more about him than me. Admitting a mistake and then just critiquing ‘ two women ‘ …..If he chooses to judge me and @Nancy then He obviously needs to read the scriptures he posted about judging others ……
Anyway this needs to get back on topic ……..

LOL!!!

 

[Jim B]

The people of God have been the most persecuted including both Jews and Gentiles, Christians and Jews.

Patrick is right when he writes "Jewish people have been the most persecuted segment of humanity in all of human history".

 

[Rita]

No, I haven't read the posts that I wrote. Seriously, are you nuts???

It’s a polite way of saying ‘ you are being hypocritical ‘

 

[Jim B]

It’s a polite way of saying ‘ you are being hypocritical ‘

You're both impolite and wrong.