Why the cross actually saves

[SovereignGrace]

Agreed, the lying is unreal. Nowhere have I ever stated what he claims. Thanks for having my back bro.

Many need to read these quotes in my signature...


"If you are clear in your theology and in your doctrine you will know that no natural man can believe the gospel... So if you expect a natural man to believe the gospel simply because you are putting it to him, you are denying the gospel; you have not understood it yourself."

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

“We possess neither the ability, free will, power, nor the righteousness to repair ourselves and escape the wrath of God. It must all be God’s work, Christ’s work, or there is no salvation.”
Michael Horton

“God Himself supplies the necessary condition to come to Jesus. That’s why it is sola gratia, by grace alone, that we are saved.”

R.C. Sproul

“The gospel is the power of God. It does not depend upon me and my faithfulness. If it did we would all be lost. It is God’s power to keep, to justify and to sanctify and to glorify—to take us right into heaven itself. . . nothing can stop it.”

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Many need to read these quotes in my signature...


"If you are clear in your theology and in your doctrine you will know that no natural man can believe the gospel... So if you expect a natural man to believe the gospel simply because you are putting it to him, you are denying the gospel; you have not understood it yourself."

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

“We possess neither the ability, free will, power, nor the righteousness to repair ourselves and escape the wrath of God. It must all be God’s work, Christ’s work, or there is no salvation.”
Michael Horton

“God Himself supplies the necessary condition to come to Jesus. That’s why it is sola gratia, by grace alone, that we are saved.”

R.C. Sproul

“The gospel is the power of God. It does not depend upon me and my faithfulness. If it did we would all be lost. It is God’s power to keep, to justify and to sanctify and to glorify—to take us right into heaven itself. . . nothing can stop it.”

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones

Yep.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Yep.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Yep.

Imagine that! Two Reformists agreeing with each other.

“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Imagine that! Two Reformists agreeing with each other.

“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?

And this addresses the OP how?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Imagine that! Two Reformists agreeing with each other.

“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?

The cross of the Christ saves ppl. It doesn’t make ppl saveable. I hear ppl preach and then say they’ll give them a chance to decide after they’re finished preaching. I want my preaching to bring them to the cross, not to a decision.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Imagine that! Two Reformists agreeing with each other.

“Can the blind lead the blind? Will they not both fall into the ditch?

Thanks for calling us lost, by the way. We really appreciate it.

 

[Phoneman777]

But comparing the Fluke 87v to what the Christ did is not the same. The Fluke 87v is not who you are.

au contraire, it's 2019. I can identify as a transgender apache helicopter

 

[SovereignGrace]

au contraire, it's 2019. I can identify as a transgender apache helicopter

But you’re not a helicopter. The Christ was fully God, fully human. We are fully man, not part Fluke 87v or a helicopter.

 

[Phoneman777]

Think about it. Just as the same people that received the Holy Spirit in Acts 2 and spoke in tongues as Mark 16:16-18 says, and therefore could not commit willful sins because of the seed of the Father, the same as Jesus, those same people received a second filling in Acts 4:29-31 for ministry, just as Jesus did when He was baptized and began His ministry with signs and wonders.

I'm pretty sure after Peter was filled with the Holy Spirit he went on in his prejudice against Gentiles for a while, until Paul rebuked him and in Acts 10 God showed him "not to call any man (not pork) common or unclean."

 

[Preacher4Truth]

Thanks for calling us lost, by the way. We really appreciate it.

We're lost because we believe Christ did ALL the saving...but they're saved because they were rewarded salvation for coming to God in their own ability. Oy vey!

 

[Phoneman777]

But you’re not a helicopter. The Christ was fully God, fully human. We are fully man, not part Fluke 87v or a helicopter.

True, but my point is that Christ did lay aside His divinity and submitted Himself to the Father in all things to show us that by accepting the Holy Spirit in us, we too can overcome sin and "walk even as He walked".

 

[SovereignGrace]

Thanks for calling us lost, by the way. We really appreciate it.

@Preacher4Truth you reckon @“ByGrace” will call @1stCenturyLady unfriendly now?

#NotaChance

 

[SovereignGrace]

True, but my point is that Christ did lay aside His divinity and submitted Himself to the Father in all things to show us that by accepting the Holy Spirit in us, we too can overcome sin and "walk even as He walked".

He did not lay aside His divinity. He was/is God clothed in flesh.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

@Preacher4Truth you reckon @“ByGrace” will call @1stCenturyLady unfriendly now?

#NotaChance

Lolzzzz...

 

[SovereignGrace]

Lolzzzz...

She called us unfriendly, @1stCenturyLady called us lost. But since @1stCenturyLady agrees with her, @“ByGrace” won’t call (rightly) her to the carpet for doing it.

 

[Preacher4Truth]

She called us unfriendly, @1stCenturyLady called us lost. But since @1stCenturyLady agrees with her, @“ByGrace” won’t call (rightly) her to the carpet for doing it.

Yep, couldn't care less bro.

 

[CoreIssue]

John the Baptist is positively identified as being filled with the Holy Spirit from the womb, but we're going to doubt that the One John was specifically raised up as "the voice of one crying in the wilderness" to announce His arrival had that same Spirit?

No, Eizabeth was. Filled, not indwelt.

 

[Laish]

So, how does this post disprove that Jesus had two natures and at times spoke and acted according to His divinity and other times spoke and acted in His humanity?

What do you mean by His humanity?
Is it the humanity of fallen man or the humanity that Adam possessed before the fall ? The second being a humanity that had the ability to chose to sin or not to sin ie (posse peccare, posse non peccare)
Blessings
Bill

 

[CoreIssue]

What do you mean by His humanity?
Is it the humanity of fallen man or the humanity that Adam possessed before the fall ? The second being a humanity that had the ability to chose to sin or not to sin ie (posse peccare, posse non peccare)
Blessings
Bill

Adam have free will from the beginning or else he would never fallen.

This contradicts your belief. You do not believe in freewill.