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Learn the Bible and learn how distinguish between the Mosaic sacrificial system, and God's law the ten commandments then maybe you will have something relevant to post in reply!
 

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Learn the Bible and learn how distinguish between the Mosaic sacrificial system, and God's law the ten commandments then maybe you will have something relevant to post in reply!
One only need Jesus, for He gave us the Holy Spirit to lead us into the truth, for Jesus is teh truth and in Him there is no lie. See so many know the bible so few know Jeus. theer is a big differecne to knowing and knowing about.
 

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No doubt everyone's intention in this thread is sincere and thanks for your replies, but concerning the Decalogue , Scripture uses a hyperbole when it appears to be instructing to keep the ten commandments in the law, because they cannot be kept by man. Nor were they ever intended for any but the children of Israel. Plus all the law (esp. the Decalogue) has been fulfilled and ended in and by Christ (Rom 10:4).

All Bible commentators have the same opinion about nearly all things:

“Keep the commandments”; that is, perfectly: he must do not only one good thing, but all the good things the law requires; he must not be deficient in any single action, in anyone work of the law, either as to matter, or manner of performance; everything must be done, and that just as the Lord in His law has commanded it.

“Our Lord answers according to the tenor of the covenant of works, under which this man was; and according to the law of God, which requires perfect obedience to it, as a righteousness, and a title to life; and in case of the least failure, curses and condemns to everlasting death.

“This Christ said, in order to show, that it is impossible to enter into, or obtain eternal life by the works of the law, since no man can perfectly keep it; and to unhinge this man from off the legal foundation on which he was, that he might drop all his dependencies on doing good things, and come to Him for righteousness and life” John Gill

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NetChaplain said:
No doubt everyone's intention in this thread is sincere and thanks for your replies, but concerning the Decalogue , Scripture uses a hyperbole when it appears to be instructing to keep the ten commandments in the law, because they cannot be kept by man. Nor were they ever intended for any but the children of Israel. Plus all the law (esp. the Decalogue) has been fulfilled and ended in and by Christ (Rom 10:4).

All Bible commentators have the same opinion about nearly all things:

“Keep the commandments”; that is, perfectly: he must do not only one good thing, but all the good things the law requires; he must not be deficient in any single action, in anyone work of the law, either as to matter, or manner of performance; everything must be done, and that just as the Lord in His law has commanded it.

“Our Lord answers according to the tenor of the covenant of works, under which this man was; and according to the law of God, which requires perfect obedience to it, as a righteousness, and a title to life; and in case of the least failure, curses and condemns to everlasting death.

“This Christ said, in order to show, that it is impossible to enter into, or obtain eternal life by the works of the law, since no man can perfectly keep it; and to unhinge this man from off the legal foundation on which he was, that he might drop all his dependencies on doing good things, and come to Him for righteousness and life” John Gill

God's blessings to your Families!
The ten commandments cannot be kept by man? What kind of ridiculous statement is that? Certainly they can be kept by man..what kind of a quack taught you otherwise? If you cannot keep them, then you can kiss you salvation goodbye....
God said in Hebrews He would write them on our hearts and minds, and He will be our God and we will be His people...
My sympathies to you for missing the boat so to speak!
 

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The ten commandments cannot be kept by man? What kind of ridiculous statement is that? Certainly they can be kept by man..what kind of a quack taught you otherwise? If you cannot keep them, then you can kiss you salvation goodbye
Why do you think Jesus came,

(Eph 2:8) For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
(Eph 2:9) Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Like this man

Luk 18:10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
Luk 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
Luk 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

That is what the law does it makes men boasters of self not like this man,

Luk 18:13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted

Again as it says,

Gal_2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

which is what you are trying to obtain. Did not Christ do enough for you, that you have to do more??

1Co 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Was the price not high enough that you can do better??

Act 15:24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:

Act 15:27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things
Act 15:29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
 

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heretoeternity said:
The ten commandments cannot be kept by man? What kind of ridiculous statement is that? Certainly they can be kept by man..what kind of a quack taught you otherwise? If you cannot keep them, then you can kiss you salvation goodbye....
God said in Hebrews He would write them on our hearts and minds, and He will be our God and we will be His people...
My sympathies to you for missing the boat so to speak!
The intention of "keeping the Law" means not only all the will (law) of God but also performing it perfectly, i. e. with a sinless soul, which only can allow for one to never break any of the Law. This only Christ did and no other, nor was the Law intended to be kept by man, in order to leave us with only one choice, dependence on Christ's goodness and holiness to the Father, of which those born again can only perform within the new nature, but not the old nature which still occasions our lives.

God considers the believer in Christ as He considers Christ, for we are complete in Christ, even though we still do things out of the sinful nature, but the difference now is that our sins are never willfull (Heb 10:26). Besides this, the Law cannot save nor was it ever intended for any except the nation of Israel. Nowhere in Scripture is it said that righteousness came by the Law, nor is it ever said that it is was kept by any except Christ. Even the Isrealite is without the Law now (leaves only Christ), it being "taken away."

John Gill: "For whosoever shall keep the whole law,...." Or the greatest part of it, excepting only in one point, as follows: Adam, in a state of innocence, was able to keep the whole law, but by sin he lost that power, nor can any of his posterity now keep it perfectly: they are all transgressors of it, and liable to its penalty; unregenerate men are not obedient to it, and have an aversion to it, and despise it, and cast it behind their backs.

"Regenerate persons, who love it, and delight in it, after the inner man, do not keep it perfectly; the several parts of the law may be indeed kept by a believer, and that sincerely, but not to a perfect degree, for in many things they all offend; Christ only has perfectly kept it, and is the fulfilling end of it for righteousness; men of a pharisaical disposition may fancy they have kept it wholly, as the young man in the Gospel, and Saul, before his conversion; but this is but a fancy, and a sad mistake: the case in the text is only a supposed one, and, as it is here put, implies perfection."

Gill commentary: http://www.christianity.com/bible/commentary.php?com=gill&b=59&c=2