Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome
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This is true. Here's the historic church understanding of the passage. “He [Jesus] will confirm a [New] covenant with many for one week. But in the middle of that [70th] week he will bring sacrifices and offerings to a halt [offering himself as the atonement for sin]. On the wing of abominations will come one who destroys, [Titus and the Roman Legions] until the decreed end is poured out on the one who destroys [Rome's fall].”” (Daniel 9:27)
CoreIssue
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Babylon - Nebuchadnezzar
Medo-Persia
Greece - Alexander the Great
Rome
Split into East and West Rome
Fell apart into the 10 toe nations
reuniting as the EU
little horn - AC- coming out of Greece, One of the 10 toes
The seven heads of the beast are Babylon, Medo Persia - 2, Greece - 3 and Rome - 1 as shown by the four beasts of Daniel and history
Alexander was killed with a blow to the head and one of the seven heads had a fatal wound.
But he will be brought to life supposedly by the false prophet.
Obviously this is not resurrection, so it is a demon was in Alexander who will be in the AC.
By the Bible both conquer with peace treaty more than more war. Both ride white horses, both are homosexual in both form their empires out of multiple nations quickly.
The heads of the beast give their power to the AC.
All of this leaves no room for historicists claims that the AC is Roman Catholicism via its Pope.
Not to mention the AC has yet to be revealed per the Bible.
CoreIssue
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The AOD is not a man or an army.It is a statue of the AC in which St. well as proven in the seventh bowl when the evil spirits in the statue, false prophet and AC come out of their mouths and go to gather the nations to Armageddon.
John says the AC is a person and a spirit that possesses those who reject the doctrine of Christ. He (person) sits in or as the Church of God (temple of God in the NT) exalting himself (person) above all that is worshiped or called God = the Papacy.
Bible_Gazer
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Daniel 4th best is Rome as you said and is it not the last and God then sets up his kingdom. The Stone smashes down the image.
This beast had a voice same as in Rev.13, same beast ? then the beast image is restored.
It is the Iron Kingdom, it never left, it got broken and weaken but never died, it got wounded.
So is there going to be 2 to more beast system according to Rev.13
If the first one is with a mouth of great authority what about the 2nd one that comes later.
The little horn had the great mouth.
CoreIssue
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CoreIssue
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You're mixing up your beasts. There are the four beasts of Daniel. The unity shown in the beast that the harlot sits on is mystery Babylon.
The beast from the sea, meaning out of the people, is the AC. The beast that rises out of the pit is the demon that possesses the false prophet.
Rome is not the wounded head. The wounded head was fatal, which happened to Alexander the great of Greece, not Rome.
No beast image is restored. The false prophet creates one, a statue idol of the AC, and sets it up in the sanctuary of the temple.
The first beast declares himself God and has a great voice. The second beast proclaims the first beast as God and requires everyone to worship him.
Satan, the false prophet and the AC are thrown into the pit at the second coming, Christ slaughters all who took the mark of the beast, gathers the Jews back into Israel, restores them to their proper tribes and cleanses the Temple and rededicate for the millennial kingdom.
The only system is mystery Babylon. The two beasts and Satan are individuals.
At the second coming Petra, meaning Christ the great boulder, smashes the AC kingdom of the 10 toes, bringing down the mystery Babylon system.
Bible_Gazer
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You are saying in Daniel 7 The 4th Beast is Rome . It does read that its the last beast that has a rule over God's people. God sets up his kingdom.
That beast consist of ten horns and a little horn, all in one 4th beast group.
The stone smashes the final iron kingdom.
Looks as tho you are seeing two more beast after the 4th. That don't seem to work according to Daniel.
CoreIssue
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Who says more Revelation didn't come after Daniel.
There are four beasts in Daniel with a little horn growing out of the toes. They are a mix of clay and iron, not just iron and not Rome.
In Revelation the beasts are merged into one of these that the harlot sits on.
The other two are different.
Son Revelation there is a total of 3 beasts.
Bible_Gazer
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The little horn did not come out of the ten toes.
Its came after and more stout then them.
It became the head. Still Rome a converted one.
There one long kingdom the 4th one which is Iron strength, it won't disagree with Revelation.
Clay made it a weak kingdom compare to the full Iron.
And it will be weak again when revived because it won't last.
CoreIssue
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Daniel 7
8 “While I was thinking about the horns, there before me was another horn, a little one, which came up among them; and three of the first horns were uprooted before it. This horn had eyes like the eyes of a human being and a mouth that spoke boastfully.
24 The ten horns are ten kings who will come from this kingdom. After them another king will arise, different from the earlier ones; he will subdue three kings. 25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.b]">[b]
10 horns equal the 10 toes.
The 10 toes are the EU which will give their power to the AC. He comes out of the 10 That the Roman Empire collapsed into.
The AC will unite them into one kingdom just like Alexander the great United the city states of Greece into one kingdom.
Bible_Gazer
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*[[Dan 7:24]] KJV* And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Ten kings came out of this kingdom
This other horn came from this kingdom
So they came from that same one kingdom
What kingdom would that be, its the 4th beast kingdom. Iron - Rome
And yet you don't have the faith to believe that Daniel's 70th week is in the future. O ye of little faith.
CoreIssue
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It says Rome collapsed into 10 nations and out of those 10 the AC little horn rose.
Bible_Gazer
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So that was history then it did divide and somebody lead them into the Holy Roman Empire.
CoreIssue
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If it were true, I'd have faith. If you learn to differentiate between Holy Spirit faith and human faith, you would probably find most of what you believe is based on mental instead of spiritual reasons.
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.” (1 John 2:22–23) (KJV 1900)
This includes the unbelieving Jews, and the cults of Christendom who deny the trinity or deity of Christ.
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