Another attempt at making a total mishmash of Bible doctrines. That's what comes from following the doctrines of men. How come you missed including "Purgatory"?
Will You Pass Through The Last Day Fire In Judgement?
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No mishmash whatsoever as you claim, just scriptural truth, all will be tried by the Lord's fire in judgement, saved and unsaved alike
1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
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Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only
"Deceive The Nations" To Battle
The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming
If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign
Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?
Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.
Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle
(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event
(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
Davy
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It's your faith on man's theory of Amillennialism that is comical!
Even in Ezekiel 40 thru 47 a Millennial temple on earth is shown after Christ's future return, which in God's new heavens and a new earth time there won't be a temple on earth anymore (Rev.21:22). Ezekiel 47 reveals the return of God's River and the Tree of Life on earth for that time of the Millennial temple.
And the order of events written in Zechariah 14 reveals the day of Christ's return with His feet touching down upon the Mount of Olives on a STILL EXISTING EARTH, bringing all His saints with Him, and even the return of God's River there too...
Zech 14:8
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
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And yet, further in Zechariah 14, it reveals in that SAME time after Christ's future return, those left that came upon Jerusalem (on the last day, at Armageddon), will be made to come up to Jerusalem from year to year and worship The KING, The LORD of hosts, and keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zech 14:16-17
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
KJV
Thus faith on man's theory of Amillennialism is the actual JOKE, and is the sin of blasphemy against God's Word.
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Many Claim Ezekiel Chapters 40-46, Represents A Future Temple In A Millennium On Earth, Is This True?
As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim
The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, "Don't Be Deceived"
Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV
10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.
11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.
19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.
20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.
21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.
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Ezekiel Chapters 47-48 Is The Eternal Kingdom, Not A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth As Many Claim, "Don't Be Deceived"
Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine
(The Eternal Kingdom)
Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.
(The Eternal Kingdom)
Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
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Zechariah 14 Is The (Eternal Kingdom) After The Day Of The Lord Takes Place, "Don't Be Deceived"
Zechariah 14:1-12 below shows the Lords return to earth in fire in final judgement.
(Verse 1) shows "The Day Of The Lord" also seen in 2 Peter 3:10-13 "Fire Judgement" below
(Verse 2) Shows that all nations are gathered for the final battle of armageddon.
(Verses 3-5) shows the Lords return, and his eternal feet touch down on the earthly Mt, of Olives, and in the "Twinkling Of An Eye" 1 Cor 15:52 takes place, in the catching up, resurrection, final judgement by fire, and the New Heavens, Earth, and Jerusalem being revealed for eternity, judgement complete, eternity begins.
(Verses 6-7) Eternal light seen, in the eternal kingdom, Rev 22:1-5
(Verse 8) The river of life is seen, Rev 22:1-5
(Verse 10) The New creation is being revealed, the plain is lifted up.
(Verse 12) "The Day Of The Lord" showing the "Last Day" judgement by the Lords fire, as men are consumed as they stand on their feet, 2 Peter 3:10-13
2 Peter 3:10KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Revelation 22:1KJV
And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
"The Eternal Kingdom"!
Zechariah 14:1-12KJV
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
3 Then shall the Lord go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the Lord my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
7 but it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
9 And the Lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one Lord, and his name one.
10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin’s gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king’s winepresses.
11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
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Davy
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There's probably a reason why 'many' claim the Ezekiel 40 through 47 Chapters are FUTURE MILLENNIAL timing. It's because of what I ALREADY SHOWED FROM THOSE SCRIPTURES several times on this forum.
Revelation 21 reveals in God's future new heavens and a new earth, there will be NO TEMPLE. Ezekiel 47 reveals a TEMPLE ON EARTH AND... GOD'S RIVER AND THE TREE OF LIFE, and links to the timing of the Revelation 22:14-15 verses...
Rev 22:14-15
14 Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
KJV
You mean the wicked are STILL THERE outside the gates when that holy city and tree of life is manifested there on earth for Christ's elect? YEP!
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Ezekiel 47:1 shows "The House" no temple is mentioned as you claim
Ezekiel 47:1KJV
Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.
Yes the Lake Of Fire will be present in the eternal kingdom, outside the gates of New Jerusalem
Isaiah 66:24KJV
24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
Revelation 22:14-15KJV
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Davy
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Oh, so now that you are FORCED TO ADMIT those Ezekiel 40 thru 47 Chapters are pointing to the time after Christ's future return, you then resort to NAMING CONVENTIONS to try... and disprove those Scriptures???
Face the facts, God did not give you to understand those Ezekiel 40 through 48 Chapters, nor their timing. So you might as well just believe they are simply about Disneyland.
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Davy the facts are Ezekiel chapters 40-46 represents the Zerrubabbel 2nd temple built in 536BC, where God instructed animal blood sacrifice for sin
Ezekiel chapters 47-48 represents the eternal kingdom, where the river and tree of life are present as clearly seen in Ezekiel 47:12
Jesus Is The Lord
Davy
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Like I said, God has not given you to understand those Ezekiel 40 through 47 Chapters about Christ's future Millennial reign.
And all Christians well know that Jesus Christ became the one Perfect Sacrifice for all time, so there has to be another reason why animal sacrifices are being mentioned there, and it is actually pretty simple.
It was because God gave those future Ezekiel chapters in a time when Israel was still under the old covenant of sacrifices. This same pattern is revealed with the name "Zadok", which means 'the Just'. That name was originally about a literal priest named Zadok, but in the Ezekiel 44 sense, it is about 'the Just', i.e., Christ's elect who only are allowed to approach Christ and serve Him at His table in that future Millennium (Ezekiel 44:15-16).
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The answer is simple, Ezekiel chapters 40-46 represents the 2nd Zerubbabel temple built in 536BC, where God instructed animal blood sacrifice for sin (Historical) fulfilled long ago
Ezekiel chapters 47-48 represents the eternal kingdom in the New Heaven and Earth, as has been shown in Ezekiel 47:12, the river and tree of life are present, a parallel teaching of Revelation 22:1-2
Ezekiel Below Is (The Eternal Kingdom) Same River And Tree Of life, Same Fruit On The Tree, Same Leaves Of The Tree For Healing/Medicine
(The Eternal Kingdom)
Ezekiel 47:12KJV
12 And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.
(The Eternal Kingdom)
Revelation 22:1-2KJV
1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
GEN2REV
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GEN2REV
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That is referring to the present Church Age, Kingdom Age.
The Church and the Kingdom are the same thing.
Matthew 16:18-19
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Amen, we have been translated from darkness into the "Kingdom" of Jesus Christ presently, in the here and now, Jesus Christ sits presently on the throne, at the right hand of the father
Colossians 1:12-14KJV
12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Spiritual Israelite
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Are you aware that keeping the feast of tabernacles involves performing animal sacrifices and offerings? Are you trying to tell us that you think animal sacrifices and offerings will be reinstated in the future?
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Correction: Animal Sacrifices instructed by God, as Ezekiel 43 clearly shows
Yes these Millennialist use Ezekiel chapters 40-46 showing the 2nd Zerubbabel temple in 536BC, and they try to pass this off as a future temple in a fairy tale Millenium on this earth that will never take place
Davy
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That is not true.
The 'house' declared from the start in Ezekiel 40 is the SAME HOUSE shown in Ezekiel 47 with God's River flowing out from the foundation of that house, also called a sanctuary. Now in Revelation 21, it specifically shows in God's new heavens and a new earth timing, THERE WILL BE NO MORE A TEMPLE.
That means the "house" in Ezekiel 40 through 47 is future MILLENNIUM time, and it is SO EASY to know this too, simply because in Zerubbabel's day with the building of the 2nd temple in Jerusalem, GOD'S RIVER HAD NOT RETURNED!
So your little dividing between Ezekiel 46 and Ezekiel 47 does not work.
The "prince" in the Ezekiel 37 chapter is the same "prince" of Ezekiel 44 through 48, and here is who God says that will be in that future Millennium time of Rev.20 and thereafter...
Ezek 37:25
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob My servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and My servant David shall be their prince for ever.
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BRETHREN IN CHRIST:
What Truth7t7 isn't revealing here, is that he wrongly believes on man's theory of Amillennialism. That leaven from men that started in the 2nd century REJECTS the events of Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect after his future 2nd coming, as written in Revelation.
Amillennialism instead believes that when Jesus returns in our near future, all the wicked are destroyed on that day, and those in Christ immediately go into God's new heavens and a new earth. That's why he is against ANY idea of a Millennial reign or Millennial sanctuary which God's Word declares for that future time when Jesus returns, like here...
John 14:2-3
2 In My Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto Myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
KJV
There is the "house" of Ezekiel 40 through 46 that Lord Jesus was pointing to that has "many manisons" (i.e., abodes in the Greek). Those are about the "chambers" those Ezekiel 40 through 46 chapters speak of. Those on a false pre-trib rapture theory think those mansions are in the sky, in the heavenly, and not on earth, because they believe Jesus is going to rapture them off the earth to heaven. Those on the Amillennial doctrine of men would just as soon you believe that, because it also gets away from The Bible Scripture that proves God's House that Lord Jesus pointed to there is about the Millennial sanctuary shown in Ezekiel 40 thru 47.
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