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Hi Ken, the answer is yes.If a Jehovah Witness claims to have been baptised in water, and then subsequently comes to the Biblical knowledge of Jesus and gets saved - should that person be baptised in water a second time?
Very good! Thank you very much.Hi Ken, the answer is yes.
Baptism by water should be to declare to the world that Jesus is Lord and Savior of your life.
Baptism should take place after that happens.
The baptism of a JW is not valid in a Christian church.If a Jehovah Witness claims to have been baptised in water, and then subsequently comes to the Biblical knowledge of Jesus and gets saved - should that person be baptised in water a second time?
If a Jehovah Witness claims to have been baptised in water, and then subsequently comes to the Biblical knowledge of Jesus and gets saved - should that person be baptised in water a second time?
No, clear as our eyes are able to see.My answer would be different.
If "should I" comes into the question, then it is not "from the heart" or from hearing God nudge us, then it is just a 'form' . But if God- " Hey, now you understand things, get baptised again"
If the heart was right when first baptised then I believe God would have counted it as faith. But, if when getting baptised under JW teaching was just because a person is TOLD to ...then yes I agree with the others..get baptised again now that you know the truth of what it means.
Clear as mud eh!![]()
BGMy answer would be different.
If "should I" comes into the question, then it is not "from the heart" or from hearing God nudge us, then it is just a 'form' . But if God whispers - " Hey, Now you understand things, go get baptised again"
If the heart was right when first baptised, then I believe God would have counted it as faith. But, if when getting baptised under JW teaching it was just because a person is TOLD you to ...then yes I agree with the others..get baptised again now that you know the truth of what it means.
Clear as mud eh!![]()
BG
The JW don't believe Jesus is God.
So the formula would be missing:
Mathew 28:19
How could it be valid??
Yes. Coming from the RCC I know what you're speaking of.For those who believe that it is a command to be obeyed I agree. But, as you know ( may remember) I don't.
Baptism is an outward sign of our decision to die to the old world and rise in life into the new.
It has been made into a law and formula.
I believe it is a heart thing, a personal thing between the person and God. Once we start saying "you must do this" then we open the same can of worms that some call "the great commission".
Many christians I know have indeed been baptised in water.
But, have they ever preach ? NO. Baptised anyone in water? NO , Spoken in other tongues? NO
" Heal the sick, NO, cleanse the lepers, NO, raise the dead, NO, cast out devils, NO, .....freely ye have received, freely give."
But, they give themselves a big gold star because they were baptised.![]()
I’ve had zero success with JWs. My idea of success is sharing ideas.
I would be happy to share ideas concerning 'Who is God." Remember, sharing ideas means both sides are thoroughly examined by each person.
If you agree, I'll start a new discussion here where we can thoroughly examine this topic one (or two) verses at a time.
If we agree to a discussion, we will have to agree to terms and start a new thread.
I agree. I suggest we discuss only scriptural evidence for who is God. I believe it would quickly get out of hand unless we agree to discuss only one (or two if necessary) verses or statements at a time. And then continue to another only when we both agree to do so.
If there is too much distracting input by others, we could go to a forum which allows one-to-one discussions.
Scriptural evidence as defined by whom? If we all allowed to share our points of view without posturing or degrading doctrines, i can agree. I am not interested in hearing the JW’s opinion of the Catholic Church, for example.
We can go two verses at a time.
I am not interested in that either. I would accept we start with Bible quotes as backed up by the major modern NT Greek texts (W&H; Nestle-Aland; UBS). In other words, no single translation is to be considered infallible.
I would prefer to examine only one statement at a time, unless two are absolutely related and necessary for a single statement (perhaps like John 8:58 and Exodus 3:14).
I can be as patient as my advancing age will allow. In the early seventies I began studying with JW's. After a year I was confronted with a Dr. Walter Martin tape by a co-worker. I was shocked. From then on, for the next ten years, I conducted my own private study concerning the trinity. I had to be convinced whether God is one person or a trinity. So I wrote down all my studies and became a baptized JW in 1982.
My memory is very poor now, so I will have to rely on my study files.
If a Jehovah Witness claims to have been baptised in water, and then subsequently comes to the Biblical knowledge of Jesus and gets saved - should that person be baptised in water a second time?