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No good posting a commentary, you must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God.

Don’t you know in your spirit, that the Spirit is at work in you?..the moment your spirit was reborn?

The Spirit penetrates the heart/spirit, his seed takes up permanent residence in our spirit...i see a lot of posts on believing in Jesus...the word says.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God..Only Gods seed ( Living) can testify that truth to our spirit..,a Living spiritual birth...

One should know 100% in their spirit, that they have been birthed by the Living Spirit, “permanently” I hear lots of testimonies on what one thinks it means to be Born Again, plus some post scripture and think it means that they are Born Again.,unfortunately none of what they post lines up with Gods word..on how we are Born Of The Spirit...= by supernatural , divine, heart revelation.

Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.thats how we are Born Again, just like Jesus explains to Nicodemus....not by hearing...one may have some sort of faith by hearing the gospel, it’s not the same as the gift of supernatural faith...,that’s on another level of faith...a level that only God can perform supernaturally via his Holy Spirit...God performs the Living supernatural birth....a miracle birth that blows the mind...no one cannot choose that I’m afraid...
And why do you think people in this thread (myself included) aren't born again? They are. Difference is the Holy Spirit convinced them (myself included) about what is written in John 14-16 (the text you snipped, did you read it?) and glorify Jesus, the realization that Christ died for the sins of the world, including you, me and every forum member and that His shed blood cleans us from every sin if we confess them, the realization that without Christ no one can come to the Father, the realization that we are bought with a price and we are His, Jesus, undeserved Grace has become our part.

Filipp 4:4 - Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice. And when unable -

Matt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

The milk - Part One.

Glory to Jesus.
 

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And why do you think people in this thread (myself included) aren't born again? They are. Difference is the Holy Spirit convinced them (myself included)
That is not how we are Born Of The Spirit, none of that lines up with scripture on how we become Born Again.,,it’s a testimony..,,,not the word of God.
about what is written in John 14-16 (the text you snipped, did you read it?) and glorify Jesus, the realization that Christ died for the sins of the world, including you, me and every forum member and that His shed blood cleans us from every sin if we confess them, the realization that without Christ no one can come to the Father, the realization that we are bought with a price and we are His, Jesus, undeserved Grace has become our part.
That’s your testimony, mine is nothing like yours..,
Filipp 4:4 - Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice. And when unable -

Matt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”
Indeed it is, once we come to that knowledge in our spirit, after we are Born Again.
The milk - Part One.

Glory to Jesus.
We are Born of The Spirit..I can voice my opinion as much as I like.you have voiced yours about me not being Born Again, telling me i sin..you think reading scripture births your spirit, then think again.
God doesn’t say he convinces us to know him, that’s your testimony, which doesn’t line up with the scripture on how one is Born Again.

We need the living testimony of the Spirit coming out of our mouth, only he can proclaim that Jesus is Lord out of our mouths.,,

Not saying you or anyone else on this thread don’t have faith in God @ProDeo I’ve been told by one on this thread that I’m demon possessed ..do you honestly think those words penetrate my spirit, not on your nelly...none can take from ones heart/spirit the Living seed of God.....it’s just that yours/ theirs faith is not the same as mine, supernatural faith.which was a gift from God...and i won’t be bullied by you guys, not to keep declaring it either....

Because it goes against a lot of your beliefs..I’m here to proclaim that God is Alive in Spirit, he’s not dead...plus he’s not contained in a Bible...

We are Born Of God , His seed remains in us.



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1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time
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6 Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
7 That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
8 Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.
13 Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;
14 As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy
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17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;
19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:
20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,
21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.
 
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And why do you think people in this thread (myself included) aren't born again? They are. Difference is the Holy Spirit convinced them (myself included) about what is written in John 14-16 (the text you snipped, did you read it?) and glorify Jesus, the realization that Christ died for the sins of the world, including you, me and every forum member and that His shed blood cleans us from every sin if we confess them, the realization that without Christ no one can come to the Father, the realization that we are bought with a price and we are His, Jesus, undeserved Grace has become our part.

Filipp 4:4 - Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice. And when unable -

Matt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Matt 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.”

Indeed it is, once we come to that knowledge in our spirit, after we are Born Again.

Exactly [!]

That's why I am so surprised at what follows next.

We are Born of The Spirit..I can voice my opinion as much as I like.you have voiced yours about me not being Born Again, telling me i sin..you think reading scripture births your spirit, then think again.
God doesn’t say he convinces us to know him, that’s your testimony, which doesn’t line up with the scripture on how one is Born Again.

We need the living testimony of the Spirit coming out of our mouth, only he can proclaim that Jesus is Lord out of our mouths.,,

Not saying you don’t have faith in God @ProDeo ...it’s just not the same as mine, supernatural faith.which was a gift from God...and i won’t be bullied by you guys, not to keep declaring it.

Because it goes against a lot of your beliefs..I’m here to proclaim that God is Alive in Spirit, he’s not dead...plus he’s not contained in a Bible...

We are Born Of God , His seed remains in us.

Scripture you post, has nothing to do with how our spirit is reborn, you unfortunately can’t explain that] in the spirit?

You have no spiritual discernment of spiritual matters...you lack spiritual knowledge.
Are you saying that I (and everybody else) at every post (like you do) I should mention | testify that I am and how I was born again?

I have told that story recently, I don't see the purpose to repeat that time and time again.
 

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Exactly [!]

That's why I am so surprised at what follows next.


Are you saying that I (and everybody else) at every post (like you do) I should mention | testify that I am and how I was born again?

I have told that story recently, I don't see the purpose to repeat that time and time again.
The Holy Spirit lives in my spirit, he’s a Living Spirit.

He is the one who leads me and speaks out of my mouth on how we become Born Again...BY HIS LIVING SPIRIT....I’m under his authority, and when he speaks ,out of my mouth, Gods Living Spirit will be Proclaimed and Glorified.

Just like Amigo posts all over the forum the dire need to believe.

I am obedient to my Masters voice and yes, if I am prompted to repeat it time and time again, it will be done..be thankful to God and come before him with sincerity of heart...my spirit is Alive in Christ, it must be expressed!!! In Jesus Name...Amen!

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Are you saying that I (and everybody else) at every post (like you do) I should mention | testify that I am and how I was born again?
Why are you asking me that question ?

I take my orders from the Lord, via his Spirit, I take no orders from man.

As long as I adhere to forum rules.

I can shout and scream out how much I love God.

HE SAVED MY LIFE!...and I will forever be THANKFUL to Him..Amen!

Anyway, rather than keep taking Epi topic off track ,I’m going to start a praise thread....where I can Praise God until my hearts content.
 
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No good posting a commentary,that’s just intellectual knowledge, we need God’s Spiritual knowledge, that’s why you must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God...Born Of The Spirit...not hearing the gospel..

I explained to you earlier that if you have supernatural faith it will grow in spiritual knowledge ...if you heard the gospel, then you are the one acting on what you heard..,different level of faith, which is limited in its understanding of spiritual matters...
Don’t you know in your spirit, that the Spirit is at work in you?..the moment your spirit was reborn?

The Spirit penetrates the heart/spirit, his seed takes up permanent residence in our spirit...i see a lot of posts on believing in Jesus...the word says.

We must be Born Again to see the Kingdom Of God..Only Gods seed ( Living) can testify that truth to our spirit..,a Living spiritual birth...

One should know 100% in their spirit, that they have been birthed by the Living Spirit, “permanently” I hear lots of testimonies on what one thinks it means to be Born Again, plus some post scripture and think it means that they are Born Again.,unfortunately none of what they post lines up with Gods word..on how we are Born Of The Spirit...= by supernatural , divine, heart revelation.

Flesh gives birth to flesh.

Spirit gives birth to spirit.thats how we are Born Again, just like Jesus explains to Nicodemus....not by hearing...one may have some sort of faith by hearing the gospel, they act on what they heard,it’s not the same as the gift of supernatural faith...,that’s on another level of faith...a level that only God can perform supernaturally via his Holy Spirit...God performs the Living supernatural birth....a miracle birth that blows the mind...no one cannot choose that I’m afraid...
Who so ever believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD , and every one that loves Him , JESUS , that begat
loves him also that is begotten of HIM .
Never let a man ever once convince you that those other religoins are born of GOD for they deny JESUS is the CHRIST
For no man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . ITS BY THE SPIRIT one calls HIM LORD .
Never forget that rita .
 
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Who so ever believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD , and every one that loves Him , JESUS , that begat
loves him also that is begotten of HIM .
Never let a man ever once convince you that those other religoins are born of GOD for they deny JESUS is the CHRIST
For no man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . ITS BY THE SPIRIT one calls HIM LORD .
Never forget that rita .
That is not how God says we are Born Of The Spirit, therefore I rebuke what you believe it means, to be Born Of God, His seed remains in me, you have no understanding of what that means.

You also believe a Born Again can lose their salvation.,therefore you can’t explain the Living rebirth.and what being Born Of The Spirit is @amigo de christo

Your testimony doesn’t line up with scripture re Born Of The Spirit..you have no Living testimony from the Holy Spirit.i see no spiritual life in your posts...just religious condemnation of gays, popes, lesbians,etc..imo.
 
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That is not how God says we are Born Of The Spirit, therefore I rebuke what you believe it means, to be Born Of God, His seed remains in me, you have no understanding of what that means.
I know the desire of many is to beleive that somehow these other christ deny religoins and athiests
are okie dokey . THEY AINT rita . The wrath of GOD abides on every last one of them .
Even as we were once children of wrath but BY JESUS CHRIST no longer are .
I brought you nothing but doctrine rita . Even said NO man calls HIM LORD but by the SPIRIT .
And no man , AS DOES EVERY OTHER RELIGOIN On earth , would call him accursed .
Whether man wants to beleive this or not the words of the LORD cannot be broken .
THUS the time now is and has been to remind all of the aboslute dire necesssity to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST .
The serpent desires the death of all and from the garden fed them a lie and death came upon all ever since .
GOD , HIS PLAN , IS JESUS the CHRIST and Because HE does so love the world
HE sent HIS only begotten SON that all who do BELIEVE would NOT PERISH but have everlasting life .
But woe to those who trod HIM under foot and follow a false religoin and a false love
which will save not one soul and will reap utter destruction upon those who preached it and believed it .
 
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Who so ever Beleives JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD . no other religoin believes that , not even unbelieving jews .
The wrath of GOD shall indeed fall upon all who DENIED HIM .
That which is of anti christ has been in the world and now merges the decieved to unite as one under what it calleth love
and it claims be of GOD . But it is not of GOD nor its message and its love OF GOD .
Let no man take heed to its voice and the song of its false love that has come of the world .
 
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That is not how God says we are Born Of The Spirit,

Before God will forgive your sin... You have to give God your Faith in Christ.. .as its "counted by God"..

So, that is the first thing you have to do........and that happens when the Holy Spirit reveals Jesus to you, so that you can believe in Him....= so that you can place YOUR FAITH in Christ that God requires of YOU.

Once you give God your faith, then God will forgive your sin....and then He will give you the New Birth, that is to become Born again, as a "New Creation".

Your HYPER Calvinism, is teaching that God is giving you the birth in the Spirit, before you are forgiven...

You dont discern, and can't that you are teaching this.....
See, you are teaching that FAITH is the last part of your Salvation, when in fact you have give God YOUR FAITH, before He will forgive your sin, ., and THEN give you the Spiritual Birth.

So, your "belief system" is 100% Hyper Calvinism......and its actually the Gospel, in reverse.......that teaches that the "born again" happens before you have faith.
So, that is False Gospel "crazy"... and that is John Calvinism's "TULIP" the "5 points".
 

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I know the desire of many is to beleive that somehow these other christ deny religoins and athiests
are okie dokey . THEY AINT rita . The wrath of GOD abides on every last one of them .
Even as we were once children of wrath but BY JESUS CHRIST no longer are .
I brought you nothing but doctrine rita . Even said NO man calls HIM LORD but by the SPIRIT .
And no man , AS DOES EVERY OTHER RELIGOIN On earth , would call him accursed .
Whether man wants to beleive this or not the words of the LORD cannot be broken .
THUS the time now is and has been to remind all of the aboslute dire necesssity to beleive JESUS is the CHRIST .
The serpent desires the death of all and from the garden fed them a lie and death came upon all ever since .
GOD , HIS PLAN , IS JESUS the CHRIST and Because HE does so love the world
HE sent HIS only begotten SON that all who do BELIEVE would NOT PERISH but have everlasting life .
But woe to those who trod HIM under foot and follow a false religoin and a false love
which will save not one soul and will reap utter destruction upon those who preached it and believed it .
You see my friend.,look at your condemnation of others...you can’t/ shouldn’t do it..you’re condemning people to hell...,only God can do that my friend.

I’m not discussing this any further with you, have a nice day.

I like to be stimulated in my spirit, listening to Spirit talk...Loving those who are in so much darkness/ sin..God wants me to Love others through his Spirit.,.bye..
 

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Who so ever believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD , and every one that loves Him , JESUS , that begat
loves him also that is begotten of HIM .
Never let a man ever once convince you that those other religoins are born of GOD for they deny JESUS is the CHRIST
For no man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . ITS BY THE SPIRIT one calls HIM LORD .
Never forget that rita .
@amigo de christo
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That is not how God says we are Born Of The Spirit, therefore I rebuke what you believe it means, to be Born Of God, His seed remains in me, you have no understanding of what that means.

You also believe a Born Again can lose their salvation.,therefore you can’t explain the Living rebirth.and what being Born Of The Spirit is @amigo de christo

Your testimony doesn’t line up with scripture re Born Of The Spirit..you have no Living testimony from the Holy Spirit.i see no spiritual life in your posts...just religious condemnation of gays, popes, lesbians,etc..imo.
Whose seed . WHO is this seed . and in thy SEED . which is CHRIST .
if the seed of GOD is within a man that SEED which is CHRIST , the SPIRIT would have called HIM LORD .
 
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Who so ever believes that JESUS is the CHRIST is born of GOD , and every one that loves Him , JESUS , that begat
loves him also that is begotten of HIM .
Never let a man ever once convince you that those other religoins are born of GOD for they deny JESUS is the CHRIST
For no man by the SPIRIT calleth JESUS accursed . ITS BY THE SPIRIT one calls HIM LORD .
Never forget that rita .
@amigo de christo
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You see my friend.,look at your condemnation of others...you can’t/ shouldn’t do it..you’re condemning people to hell...,only God can do that my friend.

I’m not discussing this any further with you, have a nice day.

I like to be stimulated in my spirit, listening to Spirit talk...Loving those who are in so much darkness/ sin..God wants me to Love others through his Spirit.,.bye..
speaking the truth , warning of sin and of false leaders who decieve , IS NOT preaching condemnation .
lest we desire to accuse CHRIST , the apostels of doing so . now beware of wolves in sheeps clothing for they are many rita .
And by fair words and good speeches they sure do decieve the hearts of the simple .
 
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Whose seed . WHO is this seed . and in thy SEED . which is CHRIST .
if the seed of GOD is a man that SEED which is CHRIST , the SPIRIT would have called HIM LORD .
The seed is a Living seed, who penetrates the heart/ spirit of Gods child, then they become Born Again.if you believe in Jesus, then your spirit must be reborn.

You can’t believe in Jesus without knowing him in Spirit.,,
 

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The seed is a Living seed, who penetrates the heart/ spirit of Gods child, then they become Born Again.if you believe in Jesus, then your spirit must be reborn.

You can’t believe in Jesus without knowing him in Spirit.,,
Of course the seed is a living seed . Christ , GOD , is a LIVING SPIRIT .
The SPIRIT testifies , draws us , TO CHRIST . i said this already .
 
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Of course the seed is a living seed . Christ , GOD , is a LIVING SPIRIT .
The SPIRIT testifies , draws us , TO CHRIST . i said this already .
I’m not arguing over this you and @Marvelloustime have faith,,,it’s most definitely not the same supernatural faith that I have.were on different levels of faith and I’m sure it’s biblical.have a nice day..
 

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I’m not arguing over this you and @Marvelloustime have faith,,,it’s most definitely not the same supernatural faith that I have.were on different levels of faith and I’m sure it’s biblical.have a nice day..
just remember no faith , supernatural or not would preach contrary to Christ .
Who did remind those who failed to beleive ON HIM , and reminded Even his own apostels
about those who failed to beleive on HIM , TO shake the dust off it will be far worse for them than ever it was for Sodom .
In other words if anyones faith is leading them into inclusivity interfaith the broad road lovey do
IT AINT FAITH at all , tis a death sentence leading only to the second death .
ER apostel and others preached THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
 

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just remember no faith , supernatural or not would preach contrary to Christ .
Who did remind those who failed to beleive ON HIM , and reminded Even his own apostels
about those who failed to beleive on HIM , TO shake the dust off it will be far worse for them than ever it was for Sodom .
In other words if anyones faith is leading them into inclusivity interfaith the broad road lovey do
IT AINT FAITH at all , tis a death sentence leading only to the second death .
ER apostel and others preached THE DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
If you constantly have to believe in Jesus, makes no sense to me.

The Living Holy Spirit testifies to my spirit all day every day that I am Born /AGain and a child of the most high.