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would you be happy if i dropped the whole jw religon and convert to any other denom. ?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Mister Michael, Sep 19, 2018.

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  1. Mister Michael

    Mister Michael Active Member

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    I am just asking to see how much you care shout my religon.
     
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    Enoch111 Well-Known Member

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    Your religion is not Bible Christianity. And your goal should not be leaving one denomination or religious group for another. Your goal should be to become a child of God and know it. You should be able to agree with the apostle John in this passage:

    1 JOHN
    1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

    2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; [Christ] for we shall see him as he is.

    3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
     
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    There you go calling me part of a cult.
     
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    Willie T Well-Known Member

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    I would not be happy to see you, or anyone, just choose a Religion to follow, thinking that choosing it was going to do anything for them.
     
  5. TheHolyBookEnds

    TheHolyBookEnds Well-Known Member

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    Our Friends the Jehovah's Witnesses (all JW sources) - https://www.pearltrees.com/s/file/preview/167339776/Our Friends the Jehovahs Witnesses E.B Price 1997.pdf

    God's Channel of Truth - Is It The Watchtower? (JW sources) - https://www.pearltrees.com/s/file/preview/167339771/IsItTheWatchtower.pdf

    Correspondence 1977-1980 beetwen Carl Olof Jonsson and The Watchtower Society - Correspondence about
     
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    I only have an outsider opinion, but you know what JW will say about leaving them. You also know it means being an outcast in their eye's, but you are an outcast to many other religions as well. You can only have one right faith, if there is one (There'd only be one) So how are you going to hit the mark & get it right? Maybe it's as simple as leaving that decision up to the true God of Gods.
     
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    Jane_Doe22 Well-Known Member

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    I have a better question: "who here would like to see me grow closer to God?"
     
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    Are you saying i am not
     
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    i wish i wasn't born people hate me God hates me.

    No one loves me.


    I am part of a lie.


    No one cares.


    I am better being dead than alive.

    I miss my old life.


    I didn't ask for this.


    Stop harassing me.
     
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    Is that up to you? Can you actually do something to grow?

    1 Corinthians 3:6 New International Version (NIV)
    6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow.
     
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    :(
     
  12. TheHolyBookEnds

    TheHolyBookEnds Well-Known Member

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    Who is the antiChrist, the man of sin, the son of perdition?
     
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    I did not say anything about that.
     
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    TheHolyBookEnds Well-Known Member

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    I know. I am asking you.

    If you were a JW you would know that from a child, or even in the first few days of being one.

    Who is the antiChrist, the man of sin, the son of perdition?
     
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    Whoops, I dropped a bunch m&m's in the room.

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    Mmm, room chocolate.
     
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    Chocolate is bad for you, [1] dairy, [2] theobromine, [3] caffeine [4] rat droppings, etc.

    Switch to Carob, it's what John the Baptist ate.
     
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    I am ignoring you i am not giving you fuel anymore fine someone else to harass.
     
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    TheHolyBookEnds Well-Known Member

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    Like these guys?

    Act_7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,

    Here, you might watch this while you are waiting to think of something else to say:

     
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    Among mankind, Abel is the start of "a great cloud of witnesses" who put Jehovah God first by exercising faith in him (Heb 11:4; 12:1), in stark contrast to his brother Cain who later murdered him due to his seething anger.(Gen 4:2-8)

    Jesus is the utmost example of loyalty to Jehovah, telling Satan (who became the first apostate or rebel against Jehovah, with Adam and Eve joining in his rebellion) who wanted to break Jesus integrity: "It is written (at Deut 8:3): ' Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah's mouth"(Matt 4:4)

    Next he tells Satan, who twisted Psalms 91, 11, 12 (as the churches have done with the Bible), that "again it is written (at Deut 6:16): ' You must not put Jehovah your God to the test '.(Matt 4:7) Finally Jesus brings it "home", telling Satan: "Go away Satan ! For it is written (at Deut 10:20): ' It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone that you must render sacred service' ".(Matt 4:10)

    From the beginning of mankind's history some 6,000 years ago till now, the vast majority of them have followed Satan's lead in rebelling against Jehovah, with Revelation 12:9 saying that "Satan....is misleading the entire inhabited earth".

    For example, during the period of some 1,656 years after Adam's creation till the global flood, only three people are mentioned as having faith in Jehovah, (1) Abel, (2) Enoch, (3) Noah (Heb 11:4-7), though there were a few others who also showed faith in Jehovah God (such as Noah's family or seven other members that worked with him in building the ark, 1 Pet 3:20).

    And then down till Moses some 857 later, only a "handfull" of men is seen as having real faith in Jehovah, such as Abraham (and his wife Sarah), Isaac, Jacob, Joseph (Heb 11:8-22), and Job, whom Satan tried to break his integrity by murdering his children and destroying his livelihood and then causing him to have a loathsome disease.(Job chapters 1 and 2)

    But even though Jehovah rescued Abraham's descendants from Egypt (because he had made a covenant with Abraham, Gen 12:7; 17:1) through a series of 10 miraculous plagues (Ex 3:20), only a few exercised faith in Jehovah throughout their 40 year trek through the wilderness, because the vast majority lacked faith.(Ps 95:8-11; Heb 3:16-19)

    Then, from the time Abraham's descendants were collected together to form the nation of Israel in 1513 B.C.E. (with a body of some 600 laws known as the Mosaic law) till their destruction in 607 B.C.E., just a few were loyal to Jehovah, with most abandoning him to serve other gods.(see 2 Chron 36:16 that says that though Jehovah sent messengers to warn the nation, the Israelites ridiculed and mocked them "until the rage of Jehovah came up against his people, until they were beyond healing")

    At Isaiah 65, (Isaiah prophesied from about 778-732 B.C.E.), it states of those who left Jehovah: "But you are among those forsaking Jehovah, those forgetting my holy mountain (or his rightful sovereignty), those setting a table for the god of Good Luck, and those filling up cups of mixed wine (like a "toast") for the god of Destiny. So I will destine you to the sword, and all of you will bow down to be slaughtered, because I called you, but you did not answer. I spoke, but you did not listen; You kept doing what was bad in my eyes, and you chose what displeased me".(Isa 65:11,12)

    At Jeremiah 2 (not long after Jeremiah began his commission as a prophet of Jehovah in 647 B.C.E.), Jehovah states concerning the nation of Israel: "They strayed so far from me, and they walked after worthless idols and became worthless themselves. They did not ask, ' Where is Jehovah, the One who brought us out of the land of Egypt ? '.......My people have done two bad things: They have abandoned me, the source of living water, and dug for themselves cisterns (or followed their own course of action), broken cisterns, that cannot hold water ' ".(Jer 2:5,6,13)

    When Jesus walked the land of Israel about 677 years later, the nation of Israel had reached a level of apostasy (that means "desertion, abandonment, rebellion") that they murdered Jehovah's Son, Jesus, the promised Messiah.(Dan 9:24-27; Acts 5:30; 1 Thess 2:14,15)

    Hence, three days before he was executed at the demand of the Jews (John 19:15), Jesus stood in the temple and said: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her - how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under wings ! But you did not want it. Look ! Your house (or the temple in Jerusalem) is abandoned to you. For I say to you, you will by no means see me from now until you say (that is found at Ps 118:26), ' Blessed is the one who comes in Jehovah's name !".(Matt 23:37-39)

    In giving the Sermon on the Mount at Matthew 7, Jesus established that "few" would become loyal to Jehovah and remain as such in order to gain "life" without end.(Matt 7:14) The vast majority of mankind chart out their own course in life, going through the "broad gate" and walking on the "spacious road leading off into destruction", disregarding Jehovah.(Matt 7:13)
     
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