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Whether i live or die i am the Lords . If i live let it be unto Christ and doing all things
to point all to HIM . And if i die , Well i am in a far better place .
LET the Lord be praised my friends . And forgive all who do persecute you and hate you .
For we desire not the death of any , but rather they would have LIFE IN CHRIST . March onwards my friends .
The LORD is our hope and our salvation . Let all praise the glorious Lord .
 

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Simply preach JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath my friend .
Worry not if we be persecuted . Simply rejoice in the LORD
and point to HIM always . the end of a lamb is far better than its beginning .
Even now we have the joy of the LORD no matter what comes against us ,
but THEN we gonna know a JOY so great we gonna sing forever with the LORD .
SO be encouraged and point to Christ only more so . cause time is getting only shorter
and our desire is for souls to be saved , even if they hate us .
Paul once hated the christains himself . Had many delivered over unto prisons
and to death . YET PRAISE GOD , HE was saved and changed .
SO march on my friend . march on . And marvel not if the world hates us .
 

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Simply preach JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath my friend .
Worry not if we be persecuted . Simply rejoice in the LORD
and point to HIM always . the end of a lamb is far better than its beginning .
Even now we have the joy of the LORD no matter what comes against us ,
but THEN we gonna know a JOY so great we gonna sing forever with the LORD .
SO be encouraged and point to Christ only more so . cause time is getting only shorter
and our desire is for souls to be saved , even if they hate us .
Paul once hated the christains himself . Had many delivered over unto prisons
and to death . YET PRAISE GOD , HE was saved and changed .
SO march on my friend . march on . And marvel not if the world hates us .
Tell me why Jesus would want you in his kingdom? Hmm.
 

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Simply preach JESUS CHRIST to all that has breath my friend .
Worry not if we be persecuted . Simply rejoice in the LORD
and point to HIM always . the end of a lamb is far better than its beginning .
Even now we have the joy of the LORD no matter what comes against us ,
but THEN we gonna know a JOY so great we gonna sing forever with the LORD .
SO be encouraged and point to Christ only more so . cause time is getting only shorter
and our desire is for souls to be saved , even if they hate us .
Paul once hated the christains himself . Had many delivered over unto prisons
and to death . YET PRAISE GOD , HE was saved and changed .
SO march on my friend . march on . And marvel not if the world hates us .
Awesome post.
 

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Tell me why Jesus would want you in his kingdom? Hmm.
It sure aint cause i deserved it that i was saved . I too was the worst of the worst .
But PRAISE GOD for JESUS is all i can say . HE alone is my hope and my salvation .
And HE alone is the only way to GOD . So come one and come all to Christ JESUS for why will you die .
What a wonderful gift that was given to one of the most undeserving men i know , ME . YEAH .
OH but praise GOD for his wonderful grace given me in Christ JESUS . The grace that saves me and changed me .
 

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Marvel not if the world hates you , it hated JESUS CHRIST first . Simply pray for those who persecute you
who hate you . Now let all that draws breath praise the glorious and wonderous LORD .
JESUS CHRIST the only name whereby one can be saved . Let the glorious KING be praised my friends .
And rejoice when persecuted . Great is the reward of the lambs in heaven . So let all praise and rejoice in the glorious Lord our savoir
and our redeemer .
Brother Amigo is dearly loved. You keep marching on in the glorious LORD my dear brother. Keep up the good work. Brother always points to Jesus.
 

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It sure aint cause i deserved it that i was saved . I too was the worst of the worst .
But PRAISE GOD for JESUS is all i can say . HE alone is my hope and my salvation .
And HE alone is the only way to GOD . So come one and come all to Christ JESUS for why will you die .
What a wonderful gift that was given to one of the most undeserving men i know , ME . YEAH .
OH but praise GOD for his wonderful grace given me in Christ JESUS . The grace that saves me and changed me .
What are these changes you Christian's say Jesus has done, because I don't see it or feel it coming from any Christian I've ever met.
 

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I think communication is important on a forum, but whatever.
That's really difficult when people can only communicate on behalf of their personal beliefs. There's exchanging ideas openly and learning from each other, then there's the other thing. We just want to be known, and share our interests. But no, we always have to line up with the other thing, before that person pays any attention.
 

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The other thing, la la la la la, the other thing, la la la la la, the other thing.
 

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What are these changes you Christian's say Jesus has done, because I don't see it or feel it coming from any Christian I've ever met.
You don't understand--It's personal, inside, and unless it's you or someone really close, you will not know or see it.

Nonetheless, even extremely evil people have been changed into humble lambs in tears, both of sadness and joy. But for most of us it is less dramatic, a change in direction that no one may have even known was heading for disaster, but now on a course of life overflowing.
 
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I fled Him down the arches of the years
I fled Him down the labyrinthine ways
Of my own mind, and in the midst of tears
I hid from him, and under running laughter.
Up vistaed hopes I sped and shot precipitated
Adown titanic glooms of chasme d hears
From those strong feet that followed, followed after
But with unhurrying chase and unperturbe d pace,
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
They beat, and a Voice beat,
More instant than the feet:
All things betray thee who betrayest me.

I pleaded, outlaw--wise by many a hearted casement,
curtained red, trellised with inter-twining charities,
For though I knew His love who followe d,
Yet was I sore adread, lest having Him,
I should have nought beside.
But if one little casement parted wide,
The gust of his approach would clash it to.
Fear wist not to evade as Love wist to pursue.
Across the margent of the world I fled,
And troubled the gold gateways of the stars,
Smiting for shelter on their clange d bars,
Fretted to dulcet jars and silvern chatter
The pale ports of the moon.

I said to Dawn --- be sudden, to Eve --- be soon,
With thy young skiey blossoms heap me over
From this tremendous Lover.
Float thy vague veil about me lest He see.
I tempted all His servitors but to find
My own betrayal in their constancy,
In faith to Him, their fickleness to me,
Their traitorous trueness and their loyal deceit.
To all swift things for swiftness did I sue,
Clung to the whistling mane of every wind,
But whether they swept, smoothly fleet,
The long savannahs of the blue,
Or whether, thunder-driven,
They clanged His chariot thwart a heaven,
Plashy with flying lightnings round the spurn of their feet,
Fear wist not to evade as Love wist to pursue.
Still with unhurrying chase and unperturbed pace
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
Came on the following feet, and a Voice above their beat:
Nought shelters thee who wilt not shelter Me.

I sought no more that after which I strayed
In face of Man or Maid.
But still within the little childrens' eyes
Seems something, something that replies,
They at least are for me, surely for me.
But just as their young eyes grew sudden fair,
With dawning answers there,
Their angel plucked them from me by the hair.
Come then, ye other children, Nature's
Share with me, said I, your delicate fellowship.
Let me greet you lip to lip,
Let me twine with you caresses,
Wantoning with our Lady Mother's vagrant tresses,
Banqueting with her in her wind walled palace,
Underneath her azured dai:s,
Quaffing, as your taintless way is,
From a chalice, lucent weeping out of the dayspring.

So it was done.
I in their delicate fellowship was one.
Drew the bolt of Nature's secrecies,
I knew all the swift importings on the wilful face of skies,
I knew how the clouds arise,
Spume d of the wild sea-snortings.
All that's born or dies,
Rose and drooped with,
Made them shapers of mine own moods, or wailful, or Divine.
With them joyed and was bereaven.
I was heavy with the Even,
when she lit her glimmering tapers round the day's dead sanctities.
I laughed in the morning's eyes.
I triumphed and I saddened with all weather,
Heaven and I wept together,
and its sweet tears were salt with mortal mine.
Against the red throb of its sunset heart,
I laid my own to beat
And share commingling heat.

But not by that, by that was eased my human smart.
In vain my tears were wet on Heaven's grey cheek.
For ah! we know what each other says,
these things and I; In sound I speak,
Their sound is but their stir, they speak by silences.
Nature, poor step-dame, cannot slake my drouth.
Let her, if she would owe me
Drop yon blue-bosomed veil of sky
And show me the breasts o' her tenderness.
Never did any milk of hers once bless my thirsting mouth.
Nigh and nigh draws the chase, with unperturbe d pace
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
And past those noise d feet, a Voice comes yet more fleet:
Lo, nought contentst thee who content'st nought Me.

Naked, I wait thy Love's uplifted stroke. My harness, piece by piece,
thou'st hewn from me
And smitten me to my knee,
I am defenceless, utterly.
I slept methinks, and awoke.
And slowly gazing, find me stripped in sleep.
In the rash lustihead of my young powers,
I shook the pillaring hours,
and pulled my life upon me.
Grimed with smears,
I stand amidst the dust o' the mounded years--
My mangled youth lies dead beneath the heap.
My days have crackled and gone up in smoke,
Have puffed and burst like sunstarts on a stream.
Yeah, faileth now even dream the dreamer
and the lute, the lutanist.
Even the linked fantasies in whose blossomy twist,
I swung the Earth, a trinket at my wrist,
Have yielded, cords of all too weak account,
For Earth, with heavy grief so overplussed.
Ah! is thy Love indeed a weed,
albeit an Amaranthine weed,
Suffering no flowers except its own to mount?
Ah! must, Designer Infinite,
Ah! must thou char the wood 'ere thou canst limn with it ?
My freshness spent its wavering shower i' the dust.
And now my heart is as a broken fount,
Wherein tear-drippings stagnate, spilt down ever
From the dank thoughts that shiver upon the sighful branches of my
mind.

Such is. What is to be ?
The pulp so bitter, how shall taste the rind ?
I dimly guess what Time in mists confounds,
Yet ever and anon, a trumpet sounds
From the hid battlements of Eternity.
Those shaken mists a space unsettle,
Then round the half-glimpse d turrets, slowly wash again.
But not 'ere Him who summoneth
I first have seen, enwound
With glooming robes purpureal; Cypress crowned.
His name I know, and what his trumpet saith.
Whether Man's Heart or Life it be that yield thee harvest,
Must thy harvest fields be dunged with rotten death ?

Now of that long pursuit,
Comes at hand the bruit.
That Voice is round me like a bursting Sea:
And is thy Earth so marred,
Shattered in shard on shard?
Lo, all things fly thee, for thou fliest me.
Strange, piteous, futile thing;
Wherefore should any set thee love apart?
Seeing none but I makes much of Naught (He said).
And human love needs human meriting ---
How hast thou merited,
Of all Man's clotted clay, the dingiest clot.
Alack! Thou knowest not
How little worthy of any love thou art.
Whom wilt thou find to love ignoble thee,
Save me, save only me?
All which I took from thee, I did'st but take,
Not for thy harms,
But just that thou might'st seek it in my arms.
All which thy childs mistake fancies as lost,
I have stored for thee at Home.
Rise, clasp my hand, and come.
Halts by me that Footfall.
Is my gloom, after all,
Shade of His hand, outstretched caressingly?
Ah, Fondest, Blindest, Weakest,
I am He whom thou seekest.
Thou dravest Love from thee who dravest Me.

Francis Thompson
 

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You don't understand--It's personal, inside, and unless it's you or someone really close, you will not know or see it.

Nonetheless, even extremely evil people have been changed into humble lambs in tears, both of sadness and joy. But for most of us it is less dramatic, a change in direction that no one may have even known was heading for disaster, but now on a course of life overflowing.
Surely you can specify these internal changes, of what you see of your unliked self that Jesus did change.
 

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I fled Him down the arches of the years
I fled Him down the labyrinthine ways
Of my own mind, and in the midst of tears
I hid from him, and under running laughter.
Up vistaed hopes I sped and shot precipitated
Adown titanic glooms of chasme d hears
From those strong feet that followed, followed after
But with unhurrying chase and unperturbe d pace,
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
They beat, and a Voice beat,
More instant than the feet:
All things betray thee who betrayest me.

I pleaded, outlaw--wise by many a hearted casement,
curtained red, trellised with inter-twining charities,
For though I knew His love who followe d,
Yet was I sore adread, lest having Him,
I should have nought beside.
But if one little casement parted wide,
The gust of his approach would clash it to.
Fear wist not to evade as Love wist to pursue.
Across the margent of the world I fled,
And troubled the gold gateways of the stars,
Smiting for shelter on their clange d bars,
Fretted to dulcet jars and silvern chatter
The pale ports of the moon.

I said to Dawn --- be sudden, to Eve --- be soon,
With thy young skiey blossoms heap me over
From this tremendous Lover.
Float thy vague veil about me lest He see.
I tempted all His servitors but to find
My own betrayal in their constancy,
In faith to Him, their fickleness to me,
Their traitorous trueness and their loyal deceit.
To all swift things for swiftness did I sue,
Clung to the whistling mane of every wind,
But whether they swept, smoothly fleet,
The long savannahs of the blue,
Or whether, thunder-driven,
They clanged His chariot thwart a heaven,
Plashy with flying lightnings round the spurn of their feet,
Fear wist not to evade as Love wist to pursue.
Still with unhurrying chase and unperturbed pace
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
Came on the following feet, and a Voice above their beat:
Nought shelters thee who wilt not shelter Me.

I sought no more that after which I strayed
In face of Man or Maid.
But still within the little childrens' eyes
Seems something, something that replies,
They at least are for me, surely for me.
But just as their young eyes grew sudden fair,
With dawning answers there,
Their angel plucked them from me by the hair.
Come then, ye other children, Nature's
Share with me, said I, your delicate fellowship.
Let me greet you lip to lip,
Let me twine with you caresses,
Wantoning with our Lady Mother's vagrant tresses,
Banqueting with her in her wind walled palace,
Underneath her azured dai:s,
Quaffing, as your taintless way is,
From a chalice, lucent weeping out of the dayspring.

So it was done.
I in their delicate fellowship was one.
Drew the bolt of Nature's secrecies,
I knew all the swift importings on the wilful face of skies,
I knew how the clouds arise,
Spume d of the wild sea-snortings.
All that's born or dies,
Rose and drooped with,
Made them shapers of mine own moods, or wailful, or Divine.
With them joyed and was bereaven.
I was heavy with the Even,
when she lit her glimmering tapers round the day's dead sanctities.
I laughed in the morning's eyes.
I triumphed and I saddened with all weather,
Heaven and I wept together,
and its sweet tears were salt with mortal mine.
Against the red throb of its sunset heart,
I laid my own to beat
And share commingling heat.

But not by that, by that was eased my human smart.
In vain my tears were wet on Heaven's grey cheek.
For ah! we know what each other says,
these things and I; In sound I speak,
Their sound is but their stir, they speak by silences.
Nature, poor step-dame, cannot slake my drouth.
Let her, if she would owe me
Drop yon blue-bosomed veil of sky
And show me the breasts o' her tenderness.
Never did any milk of hers once bless my thirsting mouth.
Nigh and nigh draws the chase, with unperturbe d pace
Deliberate speed, majestic instancy,
And past those noise d feet, a Voice comes yet more fleet:
Lo, nought contentst thee who content'st nought Me.

Naked, I wait thy Love's uplifted stroke. My harness, piece by piece,
thou'st hewn from me
And smitten me to my knee,
I am defenceless, utterly.
I slept methinks, and awoke.
And slowly gazing, find me stripped in sleep.
In the rash lustihead of my young powers,
I shook the pillaring hours,
and pulled my life upon me.
Grimed with smears,
I stand amidst the dust o' the mounded years--
My mangled youth lies dead beneath the heap.
My days have crackled and gone up in smoke,
Have puffed and burst like sunstarts on a stream.
Yeah, faileth now even dream the dreamer
and the lute, the lutanist.
Even the linked fantasies in whose blossomy twist,
I swung the Earth, a trinket at my wrist,
Have yielded, cords of all too weak account,
For Earth, with heavy grief so overplussed.
Ah! is thy Love indeed a weed,
albeit an Amaranthine weed,
Suffering no flowers except its own to mount?
Ah! must, Designer Infinite,
Ah! must thou char the wood 'ere thou canst limn with it ?
My freshness spent its wavering shower i' the dust.
And now my heart is as a broken fount,
Wherein tear-drippings stagnate, spilt down ever
From the dank thoughts that shiver upon the sighful branches of my
mind.

Such is. What is to be ?
The pulp so bitter, how shall taste the rind ?
I dimly guess what Time in mists confounds,
Yet ever and anon, a trumpet sounds
From the hid battlements of Eternity.
Those shaken mists a space unsettle,
Then round the half-glimpse d turrets, slowly wash again.
But not 'ere Him who summoneth
I first have seen, enwound
With glooming robes purpureal; Cypress crowned.
His name I know, and what his trumpet saith.
Whether Man's Heart or Life it be that yield thee harvest,
Must thy harvest fields be dunged with rotten death ?

Now of that long pursuit,
Comes at hand the bruit.
That Voice is round me like a bursting Sea:
And is thy Earth so marred,
Shattered in shard on shard?
Lo, all things fly thee, for thou fliest me.
Strange, piteous, futile thing;
Wherefore should any set thee love apart?
Seeing none but I makes much of Naught (He said).
And human love needs human meriting ---
How hast thou merited,
Of all Man's clotted clay, the dingiest clot.
Alack! Thou knowest not
How little worthy of any love thou art.
Whom wilt thou find to love ignoble thee,
Save me, save only me?
All which I took from thee, I did'st but take,
Not for thy harms,
But just that thou might'st seek it in my arms.
All which thy childs mistake fancies as lost,
I have stored for thee at Home.
Rise, clasp my hand, and come.
Halts by me that Footfall.
Is my gloom, after all,
Shade of His hand, outstretched caressingly?
Ah, Fondest, Blindest, Weakest,
I am He whom thou seekest.
Thou dravest Love from thee who dravest Me.

Francis Thompson
I knew that poem was from someone else. Create something from yourself, because what then would I ever end up knowing about how you really feel. Yeah,
 

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The other thing, la la la la la, the other thing, la la la la la, the other thing.
You can run
I knew that poem was from someone else. Create something from yourself, because what then would I ever end up knowing about how you really feel. Yeah,

More than willing to tell you how I really "feel"
Blessings
J.
 

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You can run


More than willing to tell you how I really "feel"
Blessings
J.
Of course I'm running away. I am running towards something better than what you and everyone else believes in.

Because I know, and no belief will change my mind.
 

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Surely you can specify these internal changes, of what you see of your unliked self that Jesus did change.
I am sure there are those who can (for sure). As for me, it was more the destination that changed, and my understanding of what life and all the world was and is for and about. Oh, I could say that before I was more inclined to cheat, even to steal, and do things that my consciousness always knew were wrong. But I was an okay person, or so I thought. The changes that I can name were what came before, changes that had me in a downward spiral out of control, and for no apparent reason. Those things that came upon me (being a victim of crime, divorce, separation from my children, business and career failures, bankruptcy, and ironically all during a time when I was otherwise at my award winning best). Those things were greater offenses than I would have even imagined to do. I thank God that they were not without purpose, not against me, but for me.
 

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I am sure there are those who can (for sure). As for me, it was more the destination that changed, and my understanding of what life and all the world was and is for and about. Oh, I could say that before I was more inclined to cheat, even to steal, and do things that my consciousness always knew were wrong. But I was an okay person, or so I thought. The changes that I can name were what came before, changes that had me in a downward spiral out of control, and for no apparent reason. Those things that came upon me (being a victim of crime, divorce, separation from my children, business and career failures, bankruptcy, and ironically all during a time when I was otherwise at my award winning best). Those things were greater offenses than I would have even imagined to do. I thank God that they were not without purpose, not against me, but for me.
Why didn't you listen to your conscience? That's your first line of defence against self ruin.