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To fulfill and obey God isn’t about checking every box or perfectly following every command Jesus gave. You won’t be able to do it all—and that’s the point. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). That’s why we believe in Him—because He did everything we couldn’t.

Yes, Jesus gave commandments, and many were directed to Israel, the people He was sent to first. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). But later, Paul was commissioned to preach to the Gentiles, to proclaim salvation to the whole world. “I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes… to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16).

There are layers to salvation—some being “from” wrath, sin, and death; one being “to” eternal life and the Kingdom of God. It’s not a one-size-fits-all formula. It’s a divine mystery unfolding through faith in Yeshua.

So when someone says you have to obey every single word Jesus spoke as if it’s a checklist for salvation—they’re missing the context. Many of His commands were for that generation, that moment, that covenant. “The law was our guardian until Christ came… now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:24–25).

But yes—there are spiritual principles that build us up. When we seek God, abide in Christ, and allow Him to work through us, we grow. “Abide in me, and I in you… apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:4–5). That growth comes through believing in the One God sent (John 6:29), not through striving to be what only He could be.
And yes, we’re called to love our neighbor (Mark 12:31).

But let’s be honest—sometimes that’s hard. Sometimes I don’t want certain people in my life. I let God deal with them, because I can’t be Jesus. I believe in Him because He is the one who loved perfectly—“He loved righteousness and hated wickedness” (Hebrews 1:9). From birth, He loved the Father and mankind with flawless devotion.

That’s why we place our faith in Him. Because through Him, we’re not just called friends—we’re called children of God (John 1:12). And children grow. From immaturity to maturity. From confusion to clarity. From chaos to peace.

So yeah—watch out. Watch out for people on these forums. Watch out for people in the church. Watch out for yourself. “Test everything; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Trust God more than you trust people. And may He give you wisdom to grow in what truly matters—because not everything urgent is important, and not everything loud is true.





There only 2 things you can do – which is abiding in Christ – having faith/belief and abiding in Christ, growing as I stated, which produces the works of – love that are always from Yeshua and God whom work in your heart and through you to produce good fruit which is heavenly. Not earthly.
 
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To fulfill and obey God isn’t about checking every box or perfectly following every command Jesus gave.

Love fulfills every commandment.
But its not our love that can do it.........Its God's Love bearing fruit through us..

People try to "do Christianity" as their discipleship....and you can't do it., because its desiged to be empowered to only succeed by the Grace of the One who Created it.

This is why Paul said.....>"I die daily"......"i can do all things through Christ, which Strengthens me"..

He is teaching us that the walk of faith means we become less of ourselves in direct submission to God's spiritual empowering, is real discipleship.
 

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we believe in Him—because He did everything we couldn’t.

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” (Jhn 14:12, KJV)

:IDK:
 

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“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” (Jhn 14:12, KJV)

:IDK:
The context of John 14:12 is deeply personal and powerful—it’s part of Jesus’ farewell discourse during the Last Supper, spoken directly to His disciples on the night before His crucifixion.
Context of John 14:12

Who Is Jesus Talking To?
Immediate audience: His disciples—specifically the Twelve, gathered in the upper room.
• IS IT REALLY APPLICABLE? Broader application: The phrase “whoever believes in me” opens the promise to all believers, not just the apostles. So while the disciples were the first recipients, the message extends to the church across generations.


It couldnt be for churches today, cause the bride of Christ and the church of Christ, was gathered in that day.
 

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It’s only Jesus Christ—only God—who does any real work through us. When we abide in Yeshua and choose to walk in the Spirit of Christ, then something eternal happens. “Abide in me, and I in you… apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:4–5).

So honestly, I don’t know what kind of “work” people think they’re doing outside of Him. Because from what I understand, love is the true work of God. “For it is God who works in you, both to will and to act according to His good purpose” (Philippians 2:13). And “the fruit of the Spirit is love…” (Galatians 5:22).

Everything else flows from that. Without love, it’s just noise (1 Corinthians 13:1). But when we abide, love becomes the labor of heaven through us.
 

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The context is, HE THAT BELIEVES ON ME.

That’s you, me, every believer.

He did not say, he among you present before me that believe in me…

Like I stated in post #6. Also post #3.

Im not fixing to debate you. That would be stupid waste of my time. However you take it is on your own divine driven choice.

You can share whatever else you like, I dont mind you doing so but I don't have to accept what you think I need to. Everyone is subjectively living their life, some faithfuly, some not at all.
 

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Paul tells us to work:

“… work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (Php 2:12, KJV)


Please just stop talking to me, because you obviously must be a biblical literalist or something i dont know what to say other than just; Imma ignore you if you just don't leave me a lone and stop trying to debate....

I’m not here to debate—that’s not worth my time. How you take what I say is your own choice, and I respect that. “Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind” (Romans 14:5).


You’re free to share whatever you feel led to. I don’t mind. But I’m not obligated to accept what you think I should. Everyone’s walking their own path—some faithfully, some not at all. “Let each person examine his own work… for each will have to bear his own load” (Galatians 6:4–5).


I’m just trying to stay rooted in what I believe, and let God sort the rest.
 

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Some things are just ambiguous. Can't do much with it. We know for one thing is that he was speaking to the apostles.
 

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I’ll be honest—you do annoy me, and it’s not without reason. We’ve had past interactions, and they’ve shaped how I see things. So make your choice—I’m not invested either way, because truthfully, I don’t hold a lot of respect for you.

There are others on this board too, and you’re free to share like anyone else. Just be aware: not everyone’s going to welcome what you bring. :gd
 
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Before you respond, please take the time to read the entire post. If you're attempting to critique an argument, make sure you're engaging with the full context—not just a single paragraph or selective excerpt. I need you to respond to the whole, not just the part that’s convenient.

I know most of you are capable of reading, and when it comes to what I’m saying here, you won’t be able to disprove this one thing: our inability to fully carry out everything Jesus commanded—along with the instructions given by the apostle Paul and others who wrote under the authority of what Christ had already established.

They fulfilled what we could not, not through careless effort, but through the power and grace of the Lord Yeshua.

I’m deeply grateful for the first-century bride who accomplished, in obedience, what we in our own strength could never do.
 

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Once you learn from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, and even that of Acts.

Alot of those things are for you to grow in understanding what the Lord Yeshua had done for you....

He is the author and (FINISHER) of our faith.

It's all about living in the spirit of Christ in maturity... You can't do what Jesus had done.
 

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Please just stop talking to me, because you obviously must be a biblical literalist or something
Yeah, that's what Christians are ! Whenever Matt gets cornered with Bible he doesn't want to talk to you any more. lol Been there several times!
 
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You could never do what Jesus commanded.
In Matthew 7:24, Jesus did not conclude the Sermon on the mount way saying that he was just kidding and that we can't actually do as he commanded but rather he concluded by saying that everyone who hears his words and does them is like a man who builds his house on a rock.

To fulfill and obey God isn’t about checking every box or perfectly following every command Jesus gave. You won’t be able to do it all—and that’s the point. “For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23). That’s why we believe in Him—because He did everything we couldn’t.
The only reason why someone would need to have perfect obedience is if they are going to give themselves to pay for the sins of the world - the rest of us can thankfully have our sins forgiven. To fulfill the law is about correctly obeying it in accordance with he example that Christ set for us to follow.


Yes, Jesus gave commandments, and many were directed to Israel, the people He was sent to first. “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 15:24). But later, Paul was commissioned to preach to the Gentiles, to proclaim salvation to the whole world. “I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes… to the Jew first and also to the Greek” (Romans 1:16).

There are layers to salvation—some being “from” wrath, sin, and death; one being “to” eternal life and the Kingdom of God. It’s not a one-size-fits-all formula. It’s a divine mystery unfolding through faith in Yeshua.

So when someone says you have to obey every single word Jesus spoke as if it’s a checklist for salvation—they’re missing the context. Many of His commands were for that generation, that moment, that covenant. “The law was our guardian until Christ came… now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian” (Galatians 3:24–25).
Jesus spent his ministry teaching his followers to obey God's law by word and by example, and in Matthew 28:16-20, he commissioned his disciples to teach to the nations everything that he taught them, so while he directed his ministry at Jews, he did not intend for what he taught to be only for Jews, that generation, or that covenant.

Some who disregarded everything that their tutor taught them after their purpose has been fulfilled would be missing the whole point of a tutor. A child no longer needs a guardian to help them cross a busy street when they have been taught to safely cross it on their own, but they would be in error if they thought that meant they could go play in a busy street. The reason why the law brings us to Christ is not so that we can then reject everything he taught and go back to being doers of what it reveals to be wickedness.

In Titus 2:11-13, our salvation is described as being trained by grace to do what is godly, righteous, and good, and to renounce doing what is ungodly, so doing those works is not about trying to be good enough to earn our salvation as the result but rather God graciously teaching us to be a doer of those works is part of his gift of salvation.

But yes—there are spiritual principles that build us up. When we seek God, abide in Christ, and allow Him to work through us, we grow. “Abide in me, and I in you… apart from me you can do nothing” (John 15:4–5). That growth comes through believing in the One God sent (John 6:29), not through striving to be what only He could be.
And yes, we’re called to love our neighbor (Mark 12:31).
Christ set a sinless example for us to follow of how to walk in obedience to God's law and those who abide in Christ are obligated to walk in the same way that he walked (1 John 2:6).

But let’s be honest—sometimes that’s hard. Sometimes I don’t want certain people in my life. I let God deal with them, because I can’t be Jesus. I believe in Him because He is the one who loved perfectly—“He loved righteousness and hated wickedness” (Hebrews 1:9). From birth, He loved the Father and mankind with flawless devotion.
The point of our salvation is to be made like Jesus.

That’s why we place our faith in Him. Because through Him, we’re not just called friends—we’re called children of God (John 1:12). And children grow. From immaturity to maturity. From confusion to clarity. From chaos to peace.
Those who are not doers of righteousness in obedient to God's law are not children of God (1 John 3:4-10).

So yeah—watch out. Watch out for people on these forums. Watch out for people in the church. Watch out for yourself. “Test everything; hold fast what is good” (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Trust God more than you trust people. And may He give you wisdom to grow in what truly matters—because not everything urgent is important, and not everything loud is true.
The way to trust in God is by obediently trusting in His instructions.
 

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Hello Soy,

I have no interest in your post.

Grace and peace,
Matthew
 

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Paul tells us to work:

“… work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (Php 2:12, KJV)
Matthew G is fantasising and sharing his made up version of the Gospel, faith without works.

For GOD does all the work through him and he need not lift a finger, for he just have to abide in Christ.

So convenient to 'debunk' other scriptures, and rather copy and paste out of context scriptures just to fit his 'fall short' gospel version.

Since himself a 'fall short' believer, thus make excuse of his imperfection, and his 'copy' and 'paste' out of context scripture says it all.

Shocking!
 
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Brethren,

The same Gospel in the beginning calling for 'repentance' and 'water baptism' for the remission of sins, requires no works at all.

This is the 'free gift' of GOD to the world HE so loved, who have sinned and fallen short of HIS GLORY, Jews and Gentiles.

That 'both' should turn from their sins therefore HE will not have to pronounce eternal damnation on judgement day.

But after being saved and now a child of GOD, one must be disciple in the next stage of the Gospel, beginning from the Sermon on the mount to the book of Revelation.

Progressively started by Christ, beginning from Israel to His chosen disciple first, and then commissioned them to make 'likewise' disciples of 'all nation'.

For the 'New Testament' in context is the evidence of it all that was 'accomplished' by them given to the world, Jews and Gentiles.

There's no 'lies', like Gospel for the Jews and Gospel for the Gentiles, where only the 'unlearned' and 'unstable' who 'wrest' the scriptures and it's sound doctrine to their own destruction.

And, 2Timothy3:16&17 confirms that a discipled man of GOD is 'perfect' and 'thoroughly furnished' for 'every good works'.

Therefore after being saved and disciple in the Kingdom of GOD, now a man of GOD progress forth in 'faith' and 'works'.

Well faith with works, he have to start somewhere for him to progress and the Lord and GOD the FATHER through the Holy Ghost will be with him.

There's no such a 'false' man made Gospel version, that the man of GOD is a lifeless 'robot' or lifeless 'car', that GOD's going to sit inside and do everything for him.

Learn from the parable of Jesus about a wise builder and a foolish builder, where one to His teachings is a 'hearer' and 'doer', while the other a 'hearer' but not a 'doer'.

And for the record, the Gospel reads, 'abide in the teaching of Christ', and 'abide in Christ', and not just 'abide in Christ' only.

Shalom in the name of Jesus Christ our Lord
 
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