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ewq1938

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Where does it say they had the root of salvation? Nowhere.

The word doesn't have to appear for the context to show they had been properly rooted at one time. People with no root can't experience the things they did. You keep avoiding that fact. You didn't even comment on the unforgivable sin removing a person's salvation.
 

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ewq1938 said:
The word doesn't have to appear for the context to show they had been properly rooted at one time. People with no root can't experience the things they did. You keep avoiding that fact. You didn't even comment on the unforgivable sin removing a person's salvation.
They can experience those things if they walked with him in his ministry, even Judas. And you keep avoiding Rom 8:33-39 ESV.
 

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They can experience those things if they walked with him in his ministry, even Judas.
Judas lost his salvation too.

And you keep avoiding Rom 8:33-39 ESV.

No, I already addressed that in the thread.


You didn't even comment on the unforgivable sin removing a person's salvation. I assume you won't then?
 

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ewq1938 said:
Judas lost his salvation too.



No, I already addressed that in the thread.


You didn't even comment on the unforgivable sin removing a person's salvation. I assume you won't then?
Good luck on your journey man. I'm getting too old for these silly forums.
 

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ewq1938 said:
Judas lost his salvation too.



No, I already addressed that in the thread.


You didn't even comment on the unforgivable sin removing a person's salvation. I assume you won't then?
I'm sorry, I just had to take a breather grab some coffee. Ok where were we.
Well, Judas existed before resurrection so....there was no indwelling of the Holy Spirit yet.
Where did you discuss Rom 8:33-39 ESV?
Believers cannot commit the unforgiving sin, it is impossible for a believer to return to non believing status.

Eph 1:13-14 NIV And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

Eph 4:30 NIV And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

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