OSAS Again
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Ok I just got something.....for the OSAS side
First does Jesus have the Ability to sin?
But his nature is God.....so He won't
And those who have a new nature
They will not go on to sin.....because of the seed that is in them......
Think about it.....
First does Jesus have the Ability to sin?
But his nature is God.....so He won't
And those who have a new nature
They will not go on to sin.....because of the seed that is in them......
Think about it.....
Well if you don't know what Christian means why are you here?
I didn't think you would want to discuss his OSAS belief. It's quite Satanic!
mailmandan
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Fear and trembling is the attitude in which Christians are to work out their salvation in regards to the process of ongoing sanctification. It involves a healthy fear of offending God and a righteous awe and respect for Him (Proverbs 1:7; Psalm 34:9; Isaiah 66:2) and not fear of God as if He is a tyrant who can't wait to punish us every time we mess up.
That is the unhealthy fear of God that I had while growing up in the Roman Catholic church.
Do you believe God drowned everyone on Earth but 8 "making them an example"? Do you believe God will burn BILLIONS of people in Hell fire "forever and ever"?
mailmandan
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I believe that only Noah and his family were brought safely through the flood waters in the ark while everyone else drowned and perished in the flood waters. (Hebrews 11:7; 1 Peter 3:20) I also believe that hell is everlasting and many will end up there as opposed to few who will be saved and spend eternity with the Lord. (Matthew 7:13-14; 25:46)
This OP is about - OSAS
OSAS - is about " Receiving" Salvation ONCE and For Ever. Which I Agree IS Scriptural.
SIN - is about BEING "AGAINST" God.
* Jesus the Word of God was Never Against God.
* Christ the Power & Wisdom of God was Never Against God.
* ALL Earthly men ARE "naturally" Born "AGAINST" God.
* Earthly men "WHO" freely "CHOOSE" to Heartfully surrender their "LIFE" to the Lord God:
* Become Forgiven, FOR Having BEEN "AGAINST" God...(THEIR SIN).
* And Become Made Changed , by the Power of God.
* Become KEPT Changed , by the Power of God For Ever.
* Never AGAIN can they BE AGAINST (SIN) the Lord God.
CAN'T SIN.....is one thing.
WON'T SIN...is another thing.
(Can't / Won't are NOT the same thing.)
Gods SPIRIT:
(is Always God, is Always IN God, is Always WITH God)
Gods SPIRIT,
Gods SPIRIT:
WITH a man IS ONE thing.
IN a man IS ANOTHER thing.
WITH and IN are not the same thing.
Gods SPIRIT;
"WITH" a man..."CAN leave" a man.
"IN" a man......."CAN NEVER leave" a man.
Gods SEED; identified -> CHRIST
Gods POWER; identified -> CHRIST
Gods WISDOM; identified -> CHRIST
Gods WORD; identified -> JESUS
Gods TRUTH; identified -> JESUS
Gods LIFE; identified -> JESUS
Gods WAY; identified -> JESUS
Gods MESSIAH; identified -> CHRIST
Gods SON; identified -> JESUS
Gods SON "with" POWER; identified->CJ
JESUS; identified -> Son of Man.
Son of Man; identified->Jesus without Power.
CHRIST JESUS; identified ->Son of God.
WHO God SENT to Earth; identified -> Jesus
WHO was "without" Gods "POWER" -> Jesus, (Son of Man)
WHO "received" Gods "POWER" -> Jesus
(Son of God).
WHO "LEFT" Earth; Son of Man, WITH Power.
WHO "SHALL" return to Earth; Son of Man WITH Power.
* Gods "OFFERING" IS; an Earthly man CAN BECOME CHANGED "BY a man's Heartful WILLINGNESS'.
* THE CHANGE, is "effected ONCE" and For ever, BY GODS POWER.
* ONCE the CHANGE "IS Effected", that man, IS FOREVER SEALED, (unto God).
* Gods SPIRIT is FOR EVER.....................
WITH and IN that man
* A man "HEARING" Gods WORD...
The Spirit OF God; "IS WITH" that man. Gods Spirit CAN LEAVE "being WITH" that man. <--- THAT man HAS "NOT RECEIVED" Gods Gift of Salvation.
* A man "Heartfully Surrendering their LIFE to God: IS Gods SPIRIT "WITH and IN" that man.
ONCE Gods SPIRIT is "WITH and IN" that man...
Gods SPIRIT "NEVER" LEAVES that man.
^ THAT IS a MAN WHO HAS "ONCE AND FOREVER RECEIVED" Gods Gift of Salvation.
"BAPTISM "OF" Gods HOLY SPIRIT."
John 14:
[17] ...Spirit of truth... ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
[20] At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I IN YOU.
"THAT DAY", has not come, (for Some men).
Some men DO NOT KNOW, the Difference Between Gods Spirit being "WITH" them...
(And Gods Spirit CAN leave that man)
And Gods Spirit being "WITH" them and "IN" them.
(And Gods Spirit CAN NEVER leave that man).
Glory to God,
Taken
mailmandan
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I said that I believe ONLY Noah and his family were brought safely through the flood waters in the ark (which was 8 people) while EVERYONE ELSE drowned and perished in the flood waters.
You don't believe God did it? Do you believe God burned Sodom and Gomorrah alive?
mailmandan
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Why do you keep asking me these questions? I believe what God's word says about the flood and about Sodom and Gomorrah.
Very evasive!
Genesis 19:24 (NKJV)
24 Then the LORD rained brimstone and fire on Sodom and Gomorrah, from the LORD out of the heavens.
God burned them alive!
Behold
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No one preaches OSAS.
Its just a term that is brought up by legalists, (self savers) who dont trust in Christ to keep them saved.
So, they are angry about this, bitter about the fact that they are not able to trust that Christ keeps them saved, and need to rant about their situation.
So, they create OSAS Threads, out of frustration and bitterness, and also to prove they are Christian forum TROLLS.
And you can understand why they would be bitter and hateful.
They are '"fallen from Grace"", they are not involved with Grace, and in this darkened spiritual condition, all they can do is get out of bed everyday hoping they can keep themselves saved, "one more day".
So, isn't that an awful situation?
What could be worse then rejecting Christ as your salvation, and putting the responsibility to stay saved on your own back.
Also.. kcnalp,
You need to understand the actual meaning of "once you are saved, you are always saved", and why this is simply giving Christ Credit for what He did on the Cross, and by His death and resurrection.
So, why is all that true?
Its true because "the blood of Jesus that saved you, keeps you saved"
Its true because.. "Jesus who saved you, keeps you saved".
Its true because ""Once born again, always born again".
Eternal Life, IS eternal security......so, to have Eternal Life simply means you have Jesus IN YOU< who Himself IS Eternal Life.
Jesus IS Eternal Life.
See, eternal life is not a time period. Its JESUS HIMSELF... HE is Eternal Life.
This is why He told you..>"i give unto you LIFE".. and this life is IN HIM> which is found "in Christ", and all the born again, are "IN CHRIST" and in Him, you find your Eternal life.
The born again are not waiting for eternal life.......We already HAVE IT because we are 'IN CHRIST" where Eternal Life exists.
So, "OSAS", is really just Eternal Life that is found IN JESUS, and all the born again have this, because all the born again are "IN Christ".
mailmandan
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Behold
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Thats exactly right.
The ARK, is what "saved" Noah, and family, not the "water" as the "cult of Mary" teaches.
God told Noah to build a ARK, because the JUDGMENT was coming, that was going to kill every breathing thing.
The ARK, and not the water, saved Noah.
Had Noah and family gotten into the water, they would have DIED.
And this ARK, is symbolic, also....as it represents THE CROSS that is our salvation against the coming "day of Wrath" where God is going to pour His out on this world.
The CROSS is our ARK, that SAVES us from this situation.
Behold
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Yes, that really happened.
My Home is in Netanya, Israel.
Im some hours away from the very place where God judged the sin of homosexuality.
This place exists, you can go there.....you can see the area, there are ashes in the rock.
Its not a myth.
God hates sexual perversion.
God is not "pro gay rights"....
Believe it, and He's going to prove it again.
Romans 1, the Chapter.... is TRUE.
Do you know that the FEAR of God is possibly the most abundant doctrine in the Christian Bible?
Everybody will learn to fear God, now or in Hell but they will learn.
Behold
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Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom..
However, there is "to fear" the Lord, and then there is "the fear of the Lord".
To fear, would be, this....... John 3:36
Whereas, "fear of the Lord", is not to be scared of God, but rather its to ACKNOWLEDGE GOD with Trust, Love, Respect, and Utter Devotion.
A verse says....>"work out your salvation, with fear and trembling"......and that does not mean to be frightened of God.
As This God, this Father, Gave His Son for you, and He is "daddy" "Abba'.
We are to "go BOLDLY into the Throne of Grace and find help" from Father God.
So, working out your salvation, is to do it, in AWE AND WONDER, regarding our amazing God, who is our Father, forever.
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