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kcnalp

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Why are you so obsessed with the topic of OSAS?
Was the question difficult? I could have been rude and honest and say, why do OSASers attack and judge NON OSASers as unsaved all the time? And so, why do YOU preach OSAS?
 
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People preach what they believe to be true according to scripture.
How does preaching OSAS help anyone? If someone is saved and CAN'T be unsaved why are you preaching OSAS to him / her? Honestly it sounds like you're trying to convince yourselves.
 

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How does preaching OSAS help anyone?
IF this is true, then it changes how we think of things.

If in fact we believe that we might lose salvation due to too much sin, then our live is a matter of making sure we don't sin too much. That kind of battle will consume our lives.

If it's true that the sin issue is settled, then we can just be on with the business of rejoicing in the love of our Creater, whehter it's a good day, or a bad day. If it's true that enjoying our unity with our Creator is what keeps us from sin, then why not teach that?

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How does preaching OSAS help anyone? If someone is saved and CAN'T be unsaved why are you preaching OSAS to him / her? Honestly it sounds like you're trying to convince yourselves.
Why preach NOSAS? It can lead people to type 2 works salvation and fear and bondage to IN-security. Prior to my conversion several years ago, I subscribed to NOSAS as a Roman Catholic and I was miserable!
 

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Why preach NOSAS? It can lead people to type 2 works salvation and fear and bondage to IN-security.
Fear of what? God?

Philippians 2:12 (NKJV)
12 ... work out your own salvation with fear and trembling;
Prior to my conversion several years ago, I subscribed to NOSAS as a Roman Catholic and I was miserable!
You don't fear God?

Psalm 2:11 (NKJV)
11 Serve the LORD with fear, And rejoice with trembling.
 
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IF this is true, then it changes how we think of things.

If in fact we believe that we might lose salvation due to too much sin, then our live is a matter of making sure we don't sin too much. That kind of battle will consume our lives.

If it's true that the sin issue is settled, then we can just be on with the business of rejoicing in the love of our Creater, whehter it's a good day, or a bad day. If it's true that enjoying our unity with our Creator is what keeps us from sin, then why not teach that?

Much love!
Do you realize that the fear of God and the wrath of God are ABUNDANTLY taught in the Bible? God drowned all but 8 on Earth and burned Sodom and Gomorrah alive "making them an example".

2 Peter 2:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment;5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;
 
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Then why do OSASers condemn NON OSASers as unsaved?

"Condemn"....? What are you talking about?

You appear to CONFUSE, disagreeing with CONDEMNATION.

What man do you think has the POWER to Condemn you?
 
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"Condemn"....? What are you talking about?

You appear to CONFUSE, disagreeing with CONDEMNATION.

What man do you think has the POWER to Condemn you?
OSASers have constantly implied that I am not saved because I don't swallow the OSAS scam.
 
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OSASers have constantly implied that I am not saved because I don't swallow the OSAS scam.

You probably get a negative reaction, because you put out an uncalled for negative comment.

Personally, I have NO INTEREST in knowing "HOW a SCAM" is being perpetuated.
If you have concluded Being SAVED ONCE and FOREVER IS a SCAM...

What do you THINK Heb 10:14 means?

Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for everthem that are sanctified.
 
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You probably get a negative reaction, because you put out an uncalled for negative comment.

Personally, I have NO INTEREST in knowing "HOW a SCAM" is being perpetuated.
If you have concluded Being SAVED ONCE and FOREVER IS a SCAM...

What do you THINK Heb 10:14 means?

Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for everthem that are sanctified.
NONE of the verses used to prove OSAS mean that a Christian cannot turn away from God. It's simply a license to sin. One OSASer here even said if he stopped believing and died he would still go to heaven!
 

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You probably get a negative reaction, because you put out an uncalled for negative comment.

Personally, I have NO INTEREST in knowing "HOW a SCAM" is being perpetuated.
If you have concluded Being SAVED ONCE and FOREVER IS a SCAM...

What do you THINK Heb 10:14 means?

Heb 10:
[14] For by one offering he hath perfected for everthem that are sanctified.
For by one offering he has perfected for all time those who are made holy.
 
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NONE of the verses used to prove OSAS mean that a Christian cannot turn away from God.
TO understand the TRUTH. Start with the Truth.
Why are you using the term Christian? ...
a term merely mentioned in all of Scripture 3 times.

I'm talking about "sanctification", mentioned over 70 times in Scripture.

What do YOU THINK "sanctification" means?


It's simply a license to sin.

Ignoring your deflection and negative comment.

One OSASer here even said if he stopped believing and died he would still go to heaven!

So? Stop deflecting, that person is not part of this conversation.