It's one thing to be in the kingdom and another to be of the kingdom.
What do you see to be the difference? Which Scriptures inform your view?
Much love!
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It's one thing to be in the kingdom and another to be of the kingdom.
Exactly and from beginning to endBecause He is my life.
Much love!
There seem to be two camps, those who think you are forever saved when you are reborn, and those who think you are not forever saved until after your life is ended.therefore not done without you being an active participant.
The "fencing" possibilities are?:I am on the fence on this, I think it is possible for some of the cases.
Precious friend, is your interpretation = "let go And FORFEIT Eternal Life"?Do you believe that some people can let go for the word of life in their lifetime?
The "fencing" possibilities are?:
(1) Universalism = ALL are saved, Even devils
(2) NONE-alism = The bible is NOT "True"
(3) baptismalism = only those with water
(4) Torah-alism = only those with obedience to ALL of it
(5) commandment-alism = only those who OBEY
{Even though they "pick & choose" {PARTIALism?} Which(6) fruitalism = "show your deeds" or ELSE {DEAD "faith"?}
Ones they think are for THEIR "great commission"...}
(7) SIGNS-alism = show your POWER, tongues, etc, OR
"you ARE NOT filled with The Holy Ghost!"JUDGMENT-alism??? Is there an answer? How do we
GET OFF OF THE FENCE?
Precious friend, is your interpretation = "let go And FORFEIT Eternal Life"?
Your doctrine is not causing people to be saved.
Gods Power with and IN a man, KEEPS that man Forever IN belief and faith-FULLNESS to God.
Matthew 13What do you see to be the difference? Which Scriptures inform your view?
Much love!
You know how to do that, right? If not I'll show you the easiest way to do that. See the problem you have is you are programmed to think that if someone doesn't believe in Osas, particularly your brand of Osas, that has to mean they believe in works salvation. So no matter what I post you will always see it as 'works salvation' even if I explain it to you how it is not. You are literally incapable of thinking any other way. Many Osasers are like that. That's why I consider Osas a cult. But I have talked to some very honest and level headed Osaser's so I'm not broad brushing every single Osaser that way. But you are definitely of the cult mentality that I'm speaking about. Your narrow minded deafness astounds me.
And The prayer that Jesus prayed for His disciplesWhat do you see to be the difference? Which Scriptures inform your view?
Much love!
Well the question is what one is saved fromThere seem to be two camps, those who think you are forever saved when you are reborn, and those who think you are not forever saved until after your life is ended.
Only one of those views agree with what is written about eternal life.
Much love!
So when you say, "in the kingdom", you are talking about tares? The false ones? How does this relate to what @Behold was saying? I don't follow your distinction.Matthew 13
37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom,
41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!
You'll have to ask BB what he means by 'lucky repentance' to understand why I said I do not teach that.
But anyway, yes, assurance does come from walking in/by the Spirit. That's how we see for ourselves that we have the Spirit in salvation. We see Him in how we live. Many Osasers soundly reject this teaching, even though it's clearly taught in the scriptures, because they can only see that as works salvation. They are literally incapable of seeing it any other way. Now, there are some old school Calvin type Osasers who do understand how you live is the evidence of your salvation that you can take comfort and assurance in. But they seem to exist in fewer and fewer numbers these days.
And what one is save to.Well the question is what one is saved from
Agreed - as long as one stays obedient.
For some reason, you are not taking any responsibility for obeying the many commands given to believers and the many verses that say failure to obey is death, that lip service is insufficient.
My “ Doctrine “ is “ Nothing But The Blood”.....Nothing. I hope you do not have a problem with that...
Nope, you're dead wrong. I don't teach that. Had King David died before Nathan confronted him about his affair he would have died saved. He sinned, but he did not sin as the result of a rejection of the promises. Like Moses, who sinned in unfaithfulness to the Lord, but who did not sin as a result of a rejection of the promises.Trust me....he knows all about it and He teaches it except for the times that he hides it....like now..