He only asks for the obedience of trust, so we work on practicing trust whenever He gives us to see something we are not trusting that He has promised.
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He only asks for the obedience of trust, so we work on practicing trust whenever He gives us to see something we are not trusting that He has promised.
BarneyFife
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This is incredibly good stuff, SBG. No undue flattery intended, of course.
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For me this is answered in the renewing of the mind.
I think there is also a dual sense to abiding in Christ. When we are saved, we are reborn being baptized into Christ. We become In Christ. He also told us that He would live in us, so, I am in Him, and He is in me. So I think there is a reality in this.
Just the same, I think God is also talking about our experience of our lives, that as we are abiding in Him in a practical way, I think of this in the same way as "keep yourself in the love of God", as we do this, we are fruitful, we have peace and joy, we do not sin.
Keeping ourselves in the love of God isn't about whether God does or doesn't love us, it's having our heart set on His mercy when He appears. Keeping myself in the love of God is to expect His mercy, and in so doing, enjoy the experience of God loving me.
In the same way, to me, abiding in Christ is to first recognize that I do live in Christ, and that there is nothing that can separate me from His love, that is, there is absolutely no impediment to be being blessed by God, only His wisdom in how to provide for my life and godliness.
If I'd coin a phrase, it would be something like, "Keep yourself in the life of Christ, knowing He lives in you, and you in Him." Maybe I shouldn't try to write things like that. But I'm hoping this will communicate my thought.
For me, the idea is that my trust that this is true will allow me to enjoy the experience of it in my life. I can acknowledge that the new creation trusts God implicitly, being actually united to God, born from Him, but unless my mind is trained to think the new way, it will continue in it's old ruts.
God will continue to love me, and care for me, regardless of what I think or do or don't do. I change, but He does not. I don't believe our rebirth changes either, as this life comes from He Who Does Not Change. We will continue to be the same spirit children of God that we are now, eternally, only that, with the redemption of the body, all effects of sin and corruption will be erased, and our body will be restored. But the spirit is already restored.
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We must make all the way to the end of the road with Him. Bumps along the way may be uncomfortable, but if we stay on the vehicle with Him we will make it. Some people after so many bumps without relief simply decide to get out of the vehicle even though it is the only Way to approach the bright Light at the end of the road!
According to His Word dear sister. Give God the glory!
Indeed!
All three given the means to make it to the end working with and for Him for His purpose. What happens if we decide to be careful and bury it in the earth until He returns?
But when you know God? How do you "unknow" Him? Now that you know Him, or rather, are known by Him?
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Are there different kinds of truth? I see only true or untrue.
Of course we want to test our thoughts and ideas against Scripture, and when I look to Scripture, that is what I find. Do you find something different? About "backsliding"? As it's a term in the Bible, I look to the Bible for how it's used.
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We can see the sun. Believing in God takes faith. Sometimes we can lose faith.
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I'm sorry if I've given you the impression that I consider myself judge of other people's salvation.
To be clear, I am not.
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Put it all in context. I know what he was expressing. I'd call it having a bad day/week/month/year. The mind is unstable, and we can be blown different directions until we become more stabilized by the Word.
And we may not always understand what is happening with us, particularly before we learn how the Bible treats these topics. Looking at anecdotal experience isn't always the best way to determine truth. First understand the Scriptures, and then we will more clearly see how our experiences are defined by God's Word. And to communicate them, I think it best to do so in Scriptural terms.
Abraham believed God, and that belief was counted to him for righteousness, yet he still pleaded with God to accept Ishmael. If we are faithless, He remains faithful.
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Do you mean you can lose the feeling of confidence, or that you can lose the faith that is given by God?
To each is given a measure of faith, Romans 12 something, do you mean you can lose that?
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You don’t unknow Him. It isn’t men who say to God, I never knew You. It is men who God says it to. And they are shocked to hear it because they did many things in His name and fully believed He knew them.
The apostle said to examine if you really are in trust. And Jesus questioned even His closest friends more than once when He said, why is your trust so small? Why is your trust so little? Why are you frightened?
Paul taught that we are to judge fellow believers, just not the World—- that’s God's Job.....
Let me ask you . . . do you believe that a person is able to have a certain and true knowledge that they do in fact know God, are known by God, that we are in fact His spirit children?
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