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Possibly....Jesus said when you see the abomination of desolation standing.....as spoken by the prophet Daniel
“"Therefore when you see the 'abomination of desolation,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand),”
— Mat 24:15 (NKJV)
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¹⁶ then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
¹⁷ Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house.
¹⁸ And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes.

So I honestly believe there has to be another temple.
I know many of you believe there must be another Temple built before the Antichrist enters and is revealed to all.
The scripture says "Holy place". A new Yemolebwould be considered holy by Jews only. God would not dwell there so it won't be holy.
We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Wherever we congregate and pray - there Christ is present.
Then there is the words abomination and desolation. Do a study in the Bible referencing those words. Certainly Antiochus Epiphanies could have fulfilled that prophecy, causing desolation in Jerusalem and sacrificing a pig in the altar of the Temple. The Temple was a holy place then.
Also, would not another Temple be a dishonor to God - even more so than the Devil himself standing in an unholy building? This is the time when God will lift the veils of a vast number of Jews (Rom. 11). He sends two witnesses to spread the Gospel, seals 144k virgin male Jews and so wouldn't it be counter productive to His plan?
I know these are Pre-trib events in the calendar, essentials. I'm Mid-Trb so just question these things.
He could stand in a holy place, a Christian Church for instance and give a speech. If all of a sudden we see a rich and powerful, confessed atheist enter a Chrisitan Church and give a speech, someone like Bill Gates, wouldn't that be an abomination, the tech God promoting vaccines that in fact may lead to depopulation (desolation)?
 
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He {antichrist} could stand in a holy place, a Christian Church for instance and give a speech.
which Confused "chrisitan church" Even Today, is a "holy place"?

The Biblical Fact Is that ALL "members" of The Body Of CHRIST Depart
From The earth, leaving Only
UNbelievers behind. Then, in Great Tribulation
WHEN Jews DO GET SAVED, and have a {HOLY synagogue?} meeting place, would that be your idea WHERE "antichrist Will Stand, Claiming he IS GOD"?
 
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which Confused "chrisitan church" Even Today, is a "holy place"?

The Biblical Fact Is that ALL "members" of The Body Of CHRIST Depart
From The earth, leaving Only
UNbelievers behind. Then, in Great Tribulation
WHEN Jews DO GET SAVED, and have a {HOLY synagogue?} meeting place, would that be your idea WHERE "antichrist Will Stand, Claiming he IS GOD?
I suppose when believers become cognisant that great tribulation is something they'll need to endure rather than being whisked away from, the faith of many will be challenged if not thrown out. It will be a fearful time for all particularly those having built with poor materials.
 

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which Confused "chrisitan church" Even Today, is a "holy place"?

The Biblical Fact Is that ALL "members" of The Body Of CHRIST Depart
From The earth, leaving Only
UNbelievers behind. Then, in Great Tribulation
WHEN Jews DO GET SAVED, and have a {HOLY synagogue?} meeting place, would that be your idea WHERE "antichrist Will Stand, Claiming he IS GOD"?
Then that would be considered a holy place. There are so many views ... how it all actually pans out is at best, blurry. We know in part, right?
 
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I suppose when believers become cognisant that great tribulation is something they'll need to endure rather than being whisked away from, the faith of many will be challenged if not thrown out. It will be a fearful time for all particularly those having built with poor materials.
Pre-TOJT believers are Already cognizant of the Biblical Fact, That,
Under God's GRACE,
we are appointed to "suffer For HIS Sake!":

GRACE Word for infirmities
 

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Pre-TOJT believers are Already cognizant of the Biblical Fact, That,
Under God's GRACE,
we are appointed to "suffer For HIS Sake!":

GRACE Word for infirmities

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Revelation 2:v.25 to 28

25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works
unto the end(Matt.28:v.20), to him will I give power over the nations:

27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

28 And I will give him the morning star.

29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.


Revelation 11:v.15 to 18

15 - The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,


17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the nations were(will be) angry, and thy wrath(God's wrath) is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him) and LORD of lords
 

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Revelation 21:v.8

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Revelation 9:v.20-21

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not
worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.
 

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Revelation 21:v.8

8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers,
and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.


Revelation 9:v.20-21

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not
worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Hello Oseas,


You too! Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!

Peace be with you!

Christ is risen!
Alleluia!
 
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Are welcome to come to the wedding feast of the Lamb of God!

Ephesians 5:v.5 -
Ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an IDOLATER, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.


Revelation 22:v.15

For without are idolaters, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


Matthew 7:v.18 to 23

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



Revelation 11:v.15 to 18


15 - The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,


17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.


18 And the nations were(will be) angry, and thy wrath(God's wrath) is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings(kings made by Him) and LORD of lords
 
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Christian ID is the truth. scofield ref. bible turned many ppl into zionists. 6 day war, uss liberty. (have you even heard of the uss liberty?) he was supervised by zionists while writing and was not an outstanding person himself. you cannot deny the bible prophecies that the Saxons fulfilled vs what a minority group has fulfilled. im 23 & learned the word subversion 3 years ago. what do you encounter when you get to the root of subversion? international zionists, bolsheviks, atheists, and devil ppl. from ww1 to covid, its all been money. i cannot understand how you could have a highschool diploma and not see the INTENTIONAL DEBT our country puts itself into. the federal reserve is not federal nor has reserves. if nothing happens, our posterity will continue to pay off our foreign aid debts to countries that hate us. our own ZOG controlled government hates the very people that created the greatest country & uses colored people as weapons against us. look at Israel's border wall & look at ours. Africans float on literal trash today meanwhile we made sails centuries ago. all recent military has been fighting for the zionists- i forgive you and pray for you. 9/11 is just a glimpse of what these ppl will do to bank in on more $, fear, control, and to advance their fake prophecies. how much muslim hate did that bring? so much! im not even kidding, i used to hate arabs. didnt even care, now i see that they are actually better than the us in ways (homos), and guess WHAT? (best part) WHO BENIFITS from muslim hate/ arab death?? hmm idk probably ISRAEL! suspend immigration, suspend foreign aid,
 

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When God told me to keep my eyes on Israel as prophesy one after another is being fulfilled I have done as He said...
And I am in prayer as I see more and more of prophesy being fulfilled...
For those interested in understanding more about the fulfillment of "end time" prophesy, a popular author, Joel Rosenberg, wrote a nonfiction book about interpreting current events in the middle east as fulfillment of the prophetic word found in the book of Ezekiel, titled "Epicenter ". I found it absorbing and a relatively easy read. Mr. Rosenberg also created the charitable organization called the Joshua fund which offers assistance to Jewish settlers as well as Palestinian Christians in the region. Mr. Rosenberg has been involved with the intelligence community as an analyst and gained the attention of the media when some of his fiction novels seemed to predict actual occurrences in the middle east.
 
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For those interested in understanding more about the fulfillment of "end time" prophesy, a popular author, Joel Rosenberg, wrote a nonfiction book about interpreting current events in the middle east as fulfillment of the prophetic word found in the book of Ezekiel,
Rosenberg, a Jew; fails to see how the Lord will destroy all His enemies in the Middle East; on His Day of fiery wrath. Zephaniah 1:4-18 Which includes the atheistic, apostate, LGBT and Jesus hating State of Israel.
Ezekiel 20:46-48 and Ezekiel 21:1-7....My fiery flame cannot be put out, I shall do away with both the righteous and the wicked alike, from the Negev to the North, everyone will be burned.
 

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Rosenberg, a Jew; fails to see how the Lord will destroy all His enemies in the Middle East; on His Day of fiery wrath. Zephaniah 1:4-18 Which includes the atheistic, apostate, LGBT and Jesus hating State of Israel.
Ezekiel 20:46-48 and Ezekiel 21:1-7....My fiery flame cannot be put out, I shall do away with both the righteous and the wicked alike, from the Negev to the North, everyone will be burned.
Brother, the Jews are not His enemy...they are His chosen people.
Now there are religious Jews who love God but are still awaiting the coming of the Messiah....these have been deceived because of their ignorance and rebellion. But He has a remnant He has kept for Himself to preach salvation to them.
That is how I see it.
Now if you are talking about the kings and rulers who attacks Israel...particularly Jerusalem then yes God will deal with them with a fiery vengeance.
 

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12x12k are saved, some being saved now, and some in the future H2S

Do you think the 12x12k is a literal number?

I will be a little lazy today and quote someone else....of course this subject can be lengthy...

I just picked one that does follow my thought as an intro at least

------------------------from https://originalgospel.blog/2019/01/22/the-144000-literal-or-symbolic-2/----------------

Is 144,000 a literal number? Thus far, Scripture has provided no evidence that there are two classes of believers, one ruling over the other. Can it be demonstrated from Revelation itself, that the number 144,000 is not a literal number, but symbolic?

The whole nature of Revelation is one of symbolism. If the 144,000 was a literal number, then the 12 tribes of Israel referred to in chapter 7 would have to be literal as well. How can we take the number 144,000 as literal when every other aspect of this description from verse one to verse eight, is symbolic?

The fact that Revelation 7:1-8 describes John hearing the number 144,000 and then after that, John sees a ‘great crowd,’ does not necessarily mean that they are two separate groups of people, but viewed from a different perspective. The symbolic 144,000 are more likely the ‘great crowd’ – which no man can literally number.
----end quote---------

So you think that this 12x12k people are to be taken literally? and then they are all to come out of the same plot of land, of the current State of Israel?

Bless you, I know you care a lot about this subject, and so do I

APAK
The 144,000 are 12,000 men from each of the 12 tribes and they are Jewish virgin males (likely the ultra-Orthodox who appear to be the only ones who can fit this category) who sing.

Revelation 14:3-4

"And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth."

Why would anyone think God can't count?

Everyone's name is in the book of life, he knows the number of hairs on your head. He can count.
 

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Rosenberg, a Jew; fails to see how the Lord will destroy all His enemies in the Middle East; on His Day of fiery wrath. Zephaniah 1:4-18 Which includes the atheistic, apostate, LGBT and Jesus hating State of Israel.
Ezekiel 20:46-48 and Ezekiel 21:1-7....My fiery flame cannot be put out, I shall do away with both the righteous and the wicked alike, from the Negev to the North, everyone will be burned.
Actually Joel Rosenberg, although Hebrew by birth, professes Christ as a born again believer.
Also pretty sure that the Judgment of Judah fell around 70AD when the Roman's under Titus and Vespacean laid siege to and destroyed all the cities in Israel and burnt the temple in Jerusalem to the ground, leaving no stone upon another. The rest of Israel had already been judged by the Assyrians and the Babylonians with the nobility being executed (or blinded) and the surviving population forcibly relocated to other nations to serve other Gods as it was written in the book of Deuteronomy.
 
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I know many of you believe there must be another Temple built before the Antichrist enters and is revealed to all.
The scripture says "Holy place". A new Yemolebwould be considered holy by Jews only. God would not dwell there so it won't be holy.
We are the Temple of the Holy Spirit. Wherever we congregate and pray - there Christ is present.
Then there is the words abomination and desolation. Do a study in the Bible referencing those words. Certainly Antiochus Epiphanies could have fulfilled that prophecy, causing desolation in Jerusalem and sacrificing a pig in the altar of the Temple. The Temple was a holy place then.
Also, would not another Temple be a dishonor to God - even more so than the Devil himself standing in an unholy building? This is the time when God will lift the veils of a vast number of Jews (Rom. 11). He sends two witnesses to spread the Gospel, seals 144k virgin male Jews and so wouldn't it be counter productive to His plan?
I know these are Pre-trib events in the calendar, essentials. I'm Mid-Trb so just question these things.
He could stand in a holy place, a Christian Church for instance and give a speech. If all of a sudden we see a rich and powerful, confessed atheist enter a Chrisitan Church and give a speech, someone like Bill Gates, wouldn't that be an abomination, the tech God promoting vaccines that in fact may lead to depopulation (desolation)?
IMHO...Satan tries to emulate God in every way which God presented Himself. And which is why he was cast out of heaven...he thought he could do a better job than YHWH...
So all of Satan's actions in scripture is to defile the Sovereignty of God and destroy those who worship Him.
So if God instructed man to build a Temple (Holy Place) for Him to abide in and have a conversation with His people then it is almost expected that Satan through his pride and jealousy would also want to sit in the Holy Place claiming to be the Messiah.
 

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which Confused "chrisitan church" Even Today, is a "holy place"?

The Biblical Fact Is that ALL "members" of The Body Of CHRIST Depart
From The earth, leaving Only
UNbelievers behind. Then, in Great Tribulation
WHEN Jews DO GET SAVED, and have a {HOLY synagogue?} meeting place, would that be your idea WHERE "antichrist Will Stand, Claiming he IS GOD"?
Your statement is erroneous because the bible does not say that Christian's will be removed before the tribulation, but actually does say the gathering of the saints occurs at the first resurrection and coincides with the return of Christ in glory. The pretribulation rapture doctrine is not explicitly stated in scripture, but was built from various verses about other topics, such as the resurrection of the righteous and the glorification of our bodies when Christ returns in vengeance.