Clearly Jesus is a Black Hebrew Israelite

[Osiris]

When have I said I have special knowledge that saves me?
When have I said I call on special names that save me?
When have I said salvation was exclusive to my ethnicity?
You're confused.

He that endure the till the end the same shall be saved Matthew 24:13
Romans 9:3

For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
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Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

 

[Osiris]

In fact, I've said the opposite--that those who disagree with me CAN know God, and that I've learned from them.

Matthew 7
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[GracePeace]

You are saying a lawless nation will receive salvation ?

Bingo! You gotta read Romans!

Based on insertion.

Solid straightforward interpretation--and, again, as already noted, don't forget, it's not vital to my argument. It's just a bonus.

We were given unto a foolish nation the so called white man and sold across the globe.

The curse of the Law says "no one will buy you", so, ready? OOPS! That's not you!

But the law was given to Israel and it is their wisdom.

Well, it's their wisdom if they do it.

If you don’t have Torah or gods laws then you have no wisdom.

Yeah.

And if you fear god that’s the beginning of wisdom

OK

and if you fear god you keep his commandments but the commandments were only given to Israel

No, actually, Noah was given Commands right?

so only Israel can fear and love god because they have the commandments which is their wisdom before you heathen nations

So, God gets Himself a nation which does not have Torah, and writes the Torah on their hearts so Paul calls them "doers of Torah" in Romans 2:13-16, Romans 2:26-27.

 

[GracePeace]

He that endure the till the end the same shall be saved Matthew 24:13
Romans 9:3

For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:
4

Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Matthew 8
5And when [g]Jesus entered Capernaum, a [h]centurion came to Him, begging Him, 6and saying, “Lord, my [j]servant is lying paralyzed at home, terribly tormented.” 7Jesus *said to him, “I will come and heal him.” 8But the centurion replied, “[k]Lord, I am not worthy for You to come under my roof, but just [l]say the word, and my [m]servant will be healed. 9For I also am a man under authority, with soldiers under me; and I say to this one, ‘Go!’ and he goes, and to another, ‘Come!’ and he comes, and to my slave, ‘Do this!’ and he does it.” 10Now when Jesus heard this, He was amazed and said to those who were following, “Truly I say to you, I have not found such great faith [n]with anyone in Israel. 11And I say to you that many will come from east and west, and [o]recline at the table with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven; 12but the sons of the kingdom will be thrown out into the outer darkness; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” 13And Jesus said to the centurion, “Go; [p]it shall be done for you as you have believed.” And the [q]servant was healed at that very [r]moment.

So, people who are not "sons of the Kingdom", not Jewish, will enter God's Kingdom, while many Jews will go to torment. Why? Faith.

 

[GracePeace]

@Osiris The curse from the Law says "you will sell yourselves as slaves but no one will buy you".
OOPS! You didn't sell yourselves, you were sold by others!
OOPS! People DID buy you!

Deuteronomy 28 isn't about you brother.

 

[GracePeace]

I gotta get sleep soon. LOL I'm a human not a robot.

 

[Curtis]

God’s laws and ordinances is what they shall keep that will be their wisdom in the sight of the nations. I’m simply saying it doesn’t say Torah. But you say Torah and not gods law. I wonder why, and I think, god gave his law to Israel and Jesus was sent israel. So you are saying that Paul was sent to teach other nations the law ?

Torah means the law, in Hebrew. You really have so much to learn.

BTW, Galatians 4:2-31 the covenant given on Mount Sinai is bondage.

2 Corinthians 3:7-11 the ten commands given to Moses are the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation, that’s been done away, replaced by the ministry of the Spirit.

2 Timothy 1:9 the law was not meant for the righteous, but for the ungodly.

And this:

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

You claim to be a true Jew?

So you don’t have salvation, and aren’t righteous? You are blinded and in a stupor?

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained; but the elect obtained it, and the rest were hardened—

Rom 11:8 just as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes not to see and ears not to hear, until this very day.”

Being a true Jew isn’t very profitable, is it?

BTW, there are no races, or sexes, in Christ, so being a true Jew means nothing as regards salvation:

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

 

[Osiris]

Bingo! You gotta read Romans!


Solid straightforward interpretation--and, again, as already noted, don't forget, it's not vital to my argument. It's just a bonus.


The curse of the Law says "no one will buy you", so, ready? OOPS! That's not you!


Well, it's their wisdom if they do it.


Yeah.


OK


No, actually, Noah was given Commands right?


So, God gets Himself a nation which does not have Torah, and writes the Torah on their hearts so Paul calls them "doers of Torah" in Romans 2:13-16, Romans 2:26-27.

The word for buy is redeem from our enemies hand . Lest we repent . That’s why it’s listed under the curses buddy try again. I see you disregarding scripture again. And inserting. The Torah is the term given to the first five Books of Moses we not playing no semantics game . Torah in Hebrew means law but no where biblically do we see Torah in the scriptures written. Noah was given the law but he was commanded to teach other nations. For he was his own nation. He filled gods laws statutes and commandments. The Torah means law and contains god laws but not only are gods laws statutes and commands can be found in Torah but the volume of the book. Torah means law but every time you see law statutes and commandments you can’t put Torah that bad discernment

 

[Osiris]

Torah means the law, in Hebrew. You really have so much to learn.

BTW, Galatians 4:2-31 the covenant given on Mount Sinai is bondage.

2 Corinthians 3:7-11 the ten commands given to Moses are the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation, that’s been done away, replaced by the ministry of the Spirit.

2 Timothy 1:9 the law was not meant for the righteous, but for the ungodly.

And this:

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

You claim to be a true Jew?

So you don’t have salvation, and aren’t righteous? You are blinded and in a stupor?

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained; but the elect obtained it, and the rest were hardened—

Rom 11:8 just as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes not to see and ears not to hear, until this very day.”

Being a true Jew isn’t very profitable, is it?

BTW, there are no races, or sexes, in Christ, so being a true Jew means nothing as regards salvation:

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

You guys worship Paul. And you should slow your roll and know your role another one bites the dust.

 

[GracePeace]

The word for buy is redeem from our enemies hand . Lest we repent . That’s why it’s listed under the curses buddy try again. I see you disregarding scripture again. And inserting. The Torah is the term given to the first five Books of Moses we not playing no semantics game . Torah in Hebrew means law but no where biblically do we see Torah in the scriptures written. Noah was given the law but he was commanded to teach other nations. For he was his own nation. He filled gods laws statutes and commandments. The Torah means law and contains god laws but not only are gods laws statutes and commands can be found in Torah but the volume of the book. Torah means law but every time you see law statutes and commandments you can’t put Torah that bad discernment

1. No, actually, it's not "save"--the indication is that they will be in such dire straits that they will try to sell themselves but no one will even buy them.
2. You didn't sell yourselves.
3. People did buy you.
4. Noah wasn't a nation, he was an individual. If he were a nation that would nullify the claim God made of having never given His Torah to any other nation.
5. I've proven my point about "foolish" in Dt 32:21, but, again and again, it's not vital to my argument--to drive the Jews to jealousy it has to be a people who are not the Jews just as the Jews had gotten another god who was not God for themselves and had driven Him to jealousy.

 

[GracePeace]

You guys worship Paul. And you should slow your roll and know your role another one bites the dust.

Again, Paul was dead to Torah.
What is your reply?

 

[Osiris]

Torah means the law, in Hebrew. You really have so much to learn.

BTW, Galatians 4:2-31 the covenant given on Mount Sinai is bondage.

2 Corinthians 3:7-11 the ten commands given to Moses are the letter that kills, the ministry of death and condemnation, that’s been done away, replaced by the ministry of the Spirit.

2 Timothy 1:9 the law was not meant for the righteous, but for the ungodly.

And this:

Gal 3:23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

You claim to be a true Jew?

So you don’t have salvation, and aren’t righteous? You are blinded and in a stupor?

Rom 10:1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

Rom 10:2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

Rom 10:3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.


Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.

Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Rom 11:7 What then? What Israel is seeking, it has not obtained; but the elect obtained it, and the rest were hardened—

Rom 11:8 just as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes not to see and ears not to hear, until this very day.”

Being a true Jew isn’t very profitable, is it?

BTW, there are no races, or sexes, in Christ, so being a true Jew means nothing as regards salvation:

Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

Why is Jesus quoting the book of Moses , known as the Torah or gods law?
mar 12:24
And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Mar 12:25 - For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mar 12:26 - And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Mar 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

 

[GracePeace]

The word for buy is redeem from our enemies hand

Nope!

Deuteronomy 28:68 "there will be no buyer" uses the word qō·nêh which is never interpreted "redeem" only "possess" or "buy".

 

[Osiris]

1. No, actually, it's not "save"--the indication is that they will be in such dire straits that they will try to sell themselves but no one will even buy them.
2. You didn't sell yourselves.
3. People did buy you.
4. Noah wasn't a nation, he was an individual. If he were a nation that would nullify the claim God made of having never given His Torah to any other nation.
5. I've proven my point about "foolish" in Dt 32:21, but, again and again, it's not vital to my argument--to drive the Jews to jealousy it has to be a people who are not the Jews just as the Jews had gotten another god who was not God for themselves and had driven Him to jealousy.

Wasn’t would be my correction to Noah. But you are wrong and we will see when Christ returns just how wrong you are b

 

[GracePeace]

Why is Jesus quoting the book of Moses , known as the Torah or gods law?
mar 12:24
And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
Mar 12:25 - For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Mar 12:26 - And as touching the dead, that they rise: have ye not read in the book of Moses, how in the bush God spake unto him, saying, I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob?
Mar 12:27 - He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

Jesus was "under Law" Galatians 4:4. LOL
That was Old Covenant.
Paul is under the New Covenant.
Read Romans 7:1-6.
Read Galatians 2:19.

 

[Osiris]

Again, Paul was dead to Torah.
What is your reply?

That’s an insertions and you would need to show it

 

[GracePeace]

Wasn’t would be my correction to Noah. But you are wrong and we will see when Christ returns just how wrong you are b

You didn't sell yourselves.
People did buy you.

Deuteronomy 28 wasn't and isn't about you.

The Hebrew word for "buyer" is never interpreted as anything resembling "redeemer" Hebrew Concordance: qō·nêh -- 5 Occurrences

 

[Osiris]

Nope!

Deuteronomy 28:68 "there will be no buyer" uses the word qō·nêh which is never interpreted "redeem" only "possess" or "buy".

It’s qānâ

 

[GracePeace]

It’s qānâ

Correct, "no one will obtain, possess, buy" you.

OOPS! You WERE purchased.

OOPS! YOU DID NOT sell yourselves--you were sold by OTHERS.

Deuteronomy 28 wasn't and isn't about you.

 

[GracePeace]

It’s qānâ

Listen, God loves you--you don't have to be Jewish.
That's not what God is about.
I showed where Christ said many would come from East and West and enter the Kingdom.
You can be one of them. God is love.

 

[Osiris]

Correct, "no one will obtain, possess, buy" you.

OOPS! You WERE purchased.

OOPS! YOU DID NOT sell yourselves--you were sold by OTHERS.

Deuteronomy 28 wasn't and isn't about you.

It doesn’t say sell yourselves you need to use a better translation. And it says we will be sold. If you are sold then it’s already bought and qānâ being redeem no one would redeem us under the curse . According to you it should say you will be offered for bondsmen and no one will buy you. You gotta have proper English to read old English