new version of OSAS?

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Ferris Bueller

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Their thinking is that the child of God can act at will to fall away, even reject Jesus Christ, but he can also act at will after, receive and believe Him again, andnonce again be a child of God.
No. If you harden yourself in your choice to reject the grace of God that you have received in salvation God does not allow you to come back.
 

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It does not warn them about being UNSAVED

it warns them to make sure they are saved.

Not everyone who says lord lord is saved

not everyone who believes is saved,

not everyone who claimed to have faith is saved.
It warns CHRISTIANS to make sure they're saved? lol
 

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If your going to attack OSAS you have to know what those who embrace it believe

you have failed to show you understand it, so you can not argue against something you do not comprehend

Again, let’s stop talking about osas, and talk about eternal life, that is in the word. And eternal life is forever it can never be lost else it’s not eternal, it would be called conditional life

so you want to attack my eternal life, let me attack your conditional life, which is not in scripture
You have proven what OSAS is here. You called me liar several times with ZERO proof. You have a license from Satan to sin!
 

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NOT SO! You bear false witness.

Mark 3:28-31
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

And, Matthew 12:31-32
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come.

Today I don't believe anyone will commit the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost!

To God Be The Glory
So you can sin but only the sins of your choice? lol
 

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It seems to be that he can at will, become a child of the devil, then become a child of God, then become a child of the devil, then become a child of God
No, that is not allowed. It's enough that God doesn't turn the believer who stops believing over to their unbelief right away.
 

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I once came to the conclusion
That it was crediting the work of God to someone else (satan)....but haven't look into lately it.....what does blaspheme mean to you?
It's the sin of rejecting the irrefutable testimony of the Holy Spirit, in effect calling him a liar—a lying spirit of the devil. The Pharisees saw the testimony of the Holy Spirit in Jesus' miracles and chose not to believe it, even though they knew full well the truthfulness of what they were rejecting. Jesus said you can say all kinds of things about me and get away with it, but you can't call the Holy Spirit a liar and get away with that. Not gonna happen. God provided no sacrifice for that sin.
 

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You can't answer the question, can you? The obvious answer that you resist is staring you right in the face.


I’ve answered ALL of the “ Accusers of the Brethren” MANY times and I thank both you AND “ justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance“ for being the excellent Springboards That you are and have been ....there comes a time when answering the same old false accusations time and time again has to come to an end.... I’d hate to be out of computer ink the next time a tattoo or Sabbath- keeping debate comes around....you guys can even accuse me of leaving this debate because I don’t have the answers and Bible verses to defend my doctrine.....Believe that if you like....I just don’t care....maybe later I will throw some stuff out there to help Newbies, but as for now, I’m just going to “ shake the dust off of my feet” ....
 
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I’ve answered ALL of the “ Accusers of the Brethren” MANY times and I thank both you AND “ justbyfaithplusluckyrepentance“ for being the excellent Springboards That you are and have been ....there comes a time when answering the same old false accusations time and time again has to come to an end.... I’d hate to be out of computer ink the next time a tattoo or Sabbath- keeping debate comes around....you guys can even accuse me of leaving this debate because I don’t have the answers and Bible verses to defend my doctrine.....Believe that if you like....I just don’t care....maybe later I will throw some stuff out there to help Newbies, but as for now, I’m just going to “ shake the dust off of my feet” ....
Why don't you understand that NOBODY here has agreed with you? Not even OSASers. You seem to have your own personal religion.
 

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Today I don't believe anyone will commit the blaspheme against the Holy Ghost!
Every unbeliever who has heard the testimony of the Holy Spirit and refused to receive it blasphemes the Holy Spirit.....

...it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7For there are three that testify: 8the a Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony. Whoever does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because they have not believed the testimony God has given about his Son 1 John 5:6-10
That's the one thing that God will not overlook. You can not call the Holy Spirit who testifies about the Son a lying spirit of darkness. You are guilty of an eternal sin. Not even the new Osas can give a person a pass on that sin.
 
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reject the Gospel 2000 years ago - you are damned.Reject it today or tomorrow ? You are damned.
Except if you have believed some where in the past. Then grace is your license—your freedom—to reject the gospel and get a pass on that damnation. Right?
It was a very simple question to answer. A simple 'yes' or a 'no' would suffice. Can you do that before you leave, please? It will go a long way to launching your message to newbies that need to hear your message. And in such a simple answer.