Done. Your behavior has been deteriorating more and more, and does not belong here.
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new version of OSAS?
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What what I see, that's not even the point. I think we've been watching mindless and dishonest and arbitrary attacks against people's faith.
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Ferris Bueller
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That's not true. Osas type 2 says the 'Christian' can even go back to the sin of his old life in unbelief and he is still saved. Have you not been paying attention? Obviously, you have not.
Ferris Bueller
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I know you said 'a child of God'. I answered your question. That's a believer. Their sin is covered. What is it you aren't understanding?
Make up type 3 and 4 and 5 and 6 and all you want . . . you know it's all Straw Man, right? Of course you do!
All these fabrications show ignorance of what rebirth and justification is.
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Ferris Bueller
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You have been a jerk. And I'm calling you out on it. I'll gladly sacrifice my account here to tell you Osas people what everyone is too afraid to tell you. We let you act like you do because we have to. But I'm not doing that anymore. I don't care if it gets my account closed. You Osas people need to hear the truth about how you are.
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Ferris Bueller
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YES, I THANK GOD!
I'm not typing in invisible ink! Read it! Good grief! Talking to you people is like talking to unbelievers, always on the defensive about their sin, and rejecting or changing the truth to accommodate it, and trying to frustrate every effort to educate them in the truth that will set them free from it, not make it so they can live in it. It's time to call you horrible people out for what you're doing in the church.
The hubris!!
You don't speak for me. I doubt you speak for anyone but yourself. Just more rubbish!
I would that more members were like Tong!
Much love!
Well, I was not talking about that when I asked you the simple question, did you thanked God for keeping believing in Him today.
Tong
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I understood your answer. What do you think I don’t understand in your answer?
Tong
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Grailhunter
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What motivates someone to go to the trouble of conjuring up a Christian belief of sin and sin some more with a reward of heaven.
Hell is a horrible place so I can see an innocent side of this. Soft hearted people that do not want anyone to go to hell. They do not consider the fact that all the evildoers would fill heaven and that they would be spending eternity with all the evil that had lived for the past several thousand years. Soft hearted? I would think that it is not because they are sinful themselves but a lot of times it is because they have children or loved ones that are living sinful lifestyles and they cannot bear the thought of them going to hell.
Then there are those that have other reasons. People have a tendency to do what they want, and they want to do, what they want and not go to hell for it. Kind of like wanting the cake and eat it to thing. Some do not know the Bible real well and they just choose to believe that. But then you have those that put forth the time and effort to cherry pick the Bible to weave their beliefs together.
These people are motivated. The question is, what is the motivating factor? Well I do not think that a lot of them are murders...although Mafia members have a tendency to be religious. So it would be a perfect religious belief for them. I don't think that many are child molesters...even though incest does occur in Christian families. What do we see in the world that would influence someone to risk their souls over. I think the sinful motivation comes from the two most driving forces that we see commonly. That is homosexuality and drugs, or both. Homosexuals are very highly motivated and drug users will literally do anything for drugs.
So this is where we are at with OSAS beliefs. Without the motivation the obvious would be so easy to see for them. Christians are good. Christianity is not a religion of evil. It takes a lot of motivation to dirty a good religion.
It has ties to this new denomination that I speak of which takes social perversions and tries to adjust Christian beliefs to accept them. LGBTQ, drug use, and abortions are the pride of this denomination. And they want to believe they can live these lifestyles and still go to heaven.
The danger is that they would like to see these beliefs incorporated in our schools systems. And then for those that come to Christianity from sinful lifestyles, and are looking for salvation and they run into these people that say they do not need to change, that no matter what they do they are going to heaven as long as they believe in Christ. It is kind of like Satan heading them off at the pass.
Knowledgeable Christians will just laugh at them. But Satan schemes and preys on those less knowledgeable and those that are vulnerable. How many are destined to hell because of those that preach OSAS? It is a reasonably new religious belief, we certainly do not see Christ and Apostles living the sin and sin some more lifestyles. What does the church of Satan preach? Certainly there would be some similarities. It is for sure a horrible and sad thing that this sort walks among us.
Hell is a horrible place so I can see an innocent side of this. Soft hearted people that do not want anyone to go to hell. They do not consider the fact that all the evildoers would fill heaven and that they would be spending eternity with all the evil that had lived for the past several thousand years. Soft hearted? I would think that it is not because they are sinful themselves but a lot of times it is because they have children or loved ones that are living sinful lifestyles and they cannot bear the thought of them going to hell.
Then there are those that have other reasons. People have a tendency to do what they want, and they want to do, what they want and not go to hell for it. Kind of like wanting the cake and eat it to thing. Some do not know the Bible real well and they just choose to believe that. But then you have those that put forth the time and effort to cherry pick the Bible to weave their beliefs together.
These people are motivated. The question is, what is the motivating factor? Well I do not think that a lot of them are murders...although Mafia members have a tendency to be religious. So it would be a perfect religious belief for them. I don't think that many are child molesters...even though incest does occur in Christian families. What do we see in the world that would influence someone to risk their souls over. I think the sinful motivation comes from the two most driving forces that we see commonly. That is homosexuality and drugs, or both. Homosexuals are very highly motivated and drug users will literally do anything for drugs.
So this is where we are at with OSAS beliefs. Without the motivation the obvious would be so easy to see for them. Christians are good. Christianity is not a religion of evil. It takes a lot of motivation to dirty a good religion.
It has ties to this new denomination that I speak of which takes social perversions and tries to adjust Christian beliefs to accept them. LGBTQ, drug use, and abortions are the pride of this denomination. And they want to believe they can live these lifestyles and still go to heaven.
The danger is that they would like to see these beliefs incorporated in our schools systems. And then for those that come to Christianity from sinful lifestyles, and are looking for salvation and they run into these people that say they do not need to change, that no matter what they do they are going to heaven as long as they believe in Christ. It is kind of like Satan heading them off at the pass.
Knowledgeable Christians will just laugh at them. But Satan schemes and preys on those less knowledgeable and those that are vulnerable. How many are destined to hell because of those that preach OSAS? It is a reasonably new religious belief, we certainly do not see Christ and Apostles living the sin and sin some more lifestyles. What does the church of Satan preach? Certainly there would be some similarities. It is for sure a horrible and sad thing that this sort walks among us.
I could also do that. But I would not. My heart and spirit does not take pleasure with such. I refuse to fall into temptation and instead choose to be forgiving, which I am sure God is pleased.
Tong
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Ferris Bueller
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We're on the same page. I was thinking these same things and was looking for a place to address it in this thread. I honesty think what's at the heart of the person who changes (or discards) the true gospel for the Osas gospel is the struggle with substance and sexual addiction, and 'being able to believe' issues. The resistance I get from 'believers' about Osas is exactly the kind of resistance I used to get from unbelievers when I used to witness to them.
Eternally Grateful
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Yeah I can see this, The problem is they have Bee told by numerous people, and the fact they continue to do it, I think shows that to be true
Ferris Bueller
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Nothing wrong or sinful about callling someone out when they've been acting like a jerk. Long suffering is fine. But it's just that.....long suffering, not forever suffering. I'm calling you out. You've been an evasive troublemaker.
Eternally Grateful
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Amen, they needs to call it the biblical name, licentiousness. It has nothing to do with OSAS which is not even a doctrine, I never heard it until I went to chat rooms
instead they want to put us all under the same name and claim we all believe the same, which is not true
Ferris Bueller
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Yes, I got that from one of your previous post. But thank you for answering that again here. I just hope and pray that you realize what truth your answer actually is shouting out.
Tong
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Eternally Grateful
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You need to practice what you preach my friend, I have not even been watching you or made any comments to you yet you showed your true self yesterday calling me a name. So your just making excuses
as I have told you before, you do not have any idea what we who place our security in Christ believe, you prove it prety much every time you speak about us,
if anything happens to you, it’s because of what you did, not what others did to you, we all answer to our own deeds,
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