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amigo de christo

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@Ferris Bueller means those who are all the way as much Christians as anyone can be, real, genuine, born again and eternally saved, but then decide to stop believing in God, so they stop being born again, and are no longer saved.

Much love!
At least the old OSAS used to say they never knew him . Today we got us some saying , EVEN IF ONE DID STOP BELEIVING in HIM
they would still be saved . WHICH JESUS never said . Fact is HE warned about the false ones
verses the true ones . And the true ones NEVER STOP BELIEVING . The problem is , what JESUS are we following .
THIS is what is going to make all the difference in the end . God put a love for truth on my heart , SO its in the bible i stay .
Loving all things JESUS taught , the apostels taught , loving all truth .
The question is , how many love the truth , and how many love just truths and not the whole truth .
When i say examine to see if one is walking in the faith , i mean Open those bibles and see IF THAT is the JESUS we are following
IS it the apostels doctrine we are believing , OR is it men who twist things . I pray we all return to lots of bible reading daily .
As well as listening to it on audio . Just feast on it . IF one has the SPIRIT , things will get clearer and clearer over time .
SO my call today is , RETURN TO BIBLES EVERYONE . And start feasting .
 

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There is no such thing as X believers.

1. John said they were never of us
2. We stop believing only because the person loses trustworthyness. ie. They fail us. When did God fail a person..


it saddens me anyone can think Gd will fail people so bad they would lose faith.
That is the reason one does fall away . They were never truly of us .
Yes indeed . And if we have the SPIRIT then we would be exhorting one another with all things JESUS taught and the apostels taught .
We must . What worries me the most , is that i see many folks following another jesus . That scares me for them .
If our JESUS is not the biblical one , then our JESUS is NOT JESUS . And i rest my entire case on what i just said .
 
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A Christian is one that “ has Christ in him”.... none will be in Hell.....multitudes of Religionists and Legalist that “ think “ they are Christians, but
The Bible makes it clear that you are wrong. You can ignore the scriptures, you explain them away...but they are still there and stand for truth. And again I will point out that there is not religious and non-religious sections in the Bible and just like there is not legalist and non-legalist sections in the Bible....You only believe that because your beliefs are based on cherry picking the scriptures.
 

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There is no such thing as X believers.

1. John said they were never of us
2. We stop believing only because the person loses trustworthyness. ie. They fail us. When did God fail a person..


it saddens me anyone can think Gd will fail people so bad they would lose faith.
There is one thing that can and will harden a heart . ANd paul knew it . And thus HE wrote it .
Exhort one another daily , lest any becomes hardened through the deceitfulness of SIN .
And in this day and age i see many folks now running into another gospel . ITS the all inclusive false love gospel .
That gospel saves none . That gospel saves none . That gospel saves none . It damns all who go under it .
 

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When i say examine to see if one is walking in the faith , i mean Open those bibles and see IF THAT is the JESUS we are following
IS it the apostels doctrine we are believing , OR is it men who twist things . I pray we all return to lots of bible reading daily .
As well as listening to it on audio . Just feast on it . IF one has the SPIRIT , things will get clearer and clearer over time .
SO my call today is , RETURN TO BIBLES EVERYONE . And start feasting .
Amen!!

I think we cannot get too much Bible, and that the more we get it into us, yes, reading, audio, talking about it, thinking about it, Scripturally pure hymns, it rewrites our minds to be His mind.

Much love!
 
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Any version of JESUS that accepts sin and calls sin good , AINT JESUS .
Any version of JESUS that preaches there is no need to beleive in Christ , that if we just have good works and love we are saved ,
IS NOT JESUS . ITS THE DEVIL . SATAN has made himself the all inclusive love god that so many who profess to be christain even follow .
THEY are worshipping the dragon , NOT GOD . they are following the spirit of anti Christ , NOT CHRIST .
I SHUN that all inclusive pope led lie of foul doctrine to hades .
 
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That's funny, I guess you forgot what your buddy Andrew Farley says about this person who willfully sins in a rejection of the gospel. You obviously forgot what the point is that we disagree with about the passage. It's not that this person is rejecting the gospel in unbelief. That's not where we disagree, lol.


Don’t you dare “ mock” Andrew Farley ! At least don't do that and leave out Renee Roland—- You need to help me get the names of BOTH of these God-Given teachers out there ! And if it’s not asking too much, please do an ignorant diatribe against the site “ escape to reality”..... it also needs the publicity that you provide.....thank you for your inadvertent help in spreading the True Gospel Of Grace ! I could just “ kiss” you.....lol.....lol....lol....
 

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All I know is that when we are reborn, alive in Christ, that life will never end!

Much love!
Thus let us never teach contrary to Christ . Christ alone is our hope .
And HE made sure to say one must continue unto the end . He often uses examples to show
that those who do not , Will not bode well on judgement day . SO TRUST in the LORD and His every word .
Telling one they must continue to the end is simply saying the very same thing JESUS DID .
Telling one they can somehow earn salvation , WELL that JESUS NEVER DID . But He told even His own
they would be betrayed , persecuted , beaten , killed and that HE who endures to the end SHALL be saved .
THUS I say we do the same Reminder HE DID . The apostels sure used HIS reminders about having to endure to the end .
SO i say we ought to do the same .
 
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The Bible makes it clear that you are wrong. You can ignore the scriptures, you explain them away...but they are still there and stand for truth. And again I will point out that there is not religious and non-religious sections in the Bible and just like there is not legalist and non-legalist sections in the Bible....You only believe that because your beliefs are based on cherry picking the scriptures.


Ok...if you say so....your tack-sharp analysis of things has persuaded me...I am on your side now....wanna join me in a fishing trip sometime? I will be on my best behavior....I promise that I will not Rape or murder you or anybody else while we relax and kick our feet in the water...if you will bring along a little snack that we both can share....I will bring a can of worms....
 

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Ok...if you say so....your tack-sharp analysis of things has persuaded me...I am on your side now....wanna join me in a fishing trip sometime? I will be on my best behavior....I promise that I will not Rape or murder you or anybody else while we relax and kick our feet in the water...if you will bring along a little snack that we both can share....I will bring a can of worms....

I have already speculated on why people think they can go on sinning and Christ will reward them for it.
On Judgment Day Christ will know I simply told people to be good.
How do you think your message will go over?
And as far as a fishing trip with you? I do not run with your sort. Who knows your sins? I don't. But I know that you preach.

1st Corinthians 5:11
But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one.

1st Corinthians 15:33
Do not be deceived: “Bad company ruins good morals.”
 

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Thus let us never teach contrary to Christ . Christ alone is our hope .
And HE made sure to say one must continue unto the end . He often uses examples to show
that those who do not , Will not bode well on judgement day . SO TRUST in the LORD and His every word .
Telling one they must continue to the end is simply saying the very same thing JESUS DID .
Telling one they can somehow earn salvation , WELL that JESUS NEVER DID . But He told even His own
they would be betrayed , persecuted , beaten , killed and that HE who endures to the end SHALL be saved .
THUS I say we do the same Reminder HE DID . The apostels sure used HIS reminders about having to endure to the end .
SO i say we ought to do the same .
We have an anchor, both sure and stedfast, reaching through the veil.

Now we are the children of God, and it does not yet appear what we will be, but we KNOW that when we see Him, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.

God's promise is the reason for our confidence, and His promise is sure.

"He who endures to the end will be saved" is in context meaning saved from the threatened death during the great tribulation, so we should leave it there in that context. To take it out of context as it to say the child of God is not safe in Christ does disservice to the Gospel, or so it seems to me.

I think Justification that could be undone would not by definition be justification. If you are rendered just, then just is what you are. We are justified in Jesus' death, and then Jesus intercedes on our behalf forever.

Will His intecession fail?

Much love!
 
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We have an anchor, both sure and stedfast, reaching through the veil.

Now we are the children of God, and it does not yet appear what we will be, but we KNOW that when we see Him, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.

God's promise is the reason for our confidence, and His promise is sure.

"He who endures to the end will be saved" is in context meaning saved from the threatened death during the great tribulation, so we should leave it there in that context. To take it out of context as it to say the child of God is not safe in Christ does disservice to the Gospel, or so it seems to me.

I think Justification that could be undone would not by definition be justification. If you are rendered just, then just is what you are. We are justified in Jesus' death, and then Jesus intercedes on our behalf forever.

Will His intecession fail?

Much love!
Not it means saved . Just like he told the one church that was gonna be IN TRIBULATION for ten days
We are appointed unto tribulation my friend .
 

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We have an anchor, both sure and stedfast, reaching through the veil.

Now we are the children of God, and it does not yet appear what we will be, but we KNOW that when we see Him, we will be like Him, for we will see Him as He is. Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.

God's promise is the reason for our confidence, and His promise is sure.

"He who endures to the end will be saved" is in context meaning saved from the threatened death during the great tribulation, so we should leave it there in that context. To take it out of context as it to say the child of God is not safe in Christ does disservice to the Gospel, or so it seems to me.

I think Justification that could be undone would not by definition be justification. If you are rendered just, then just is what you are. We are justified in Jesus' death, and then Jesus intercedes on our behalf forever.

Will His intecession fail?

Much love!
Yes the confidence part , THAT is all about having confidence IN HIM , rejoicing IN the hope we have IN HIM .