God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

[CharismaticLady]

No, it says the 'old covenant' (Hebrews 8:13) was fading away, not the Ten Commandments.

But the Ten Commandments IS the Old Covenant. What did you think it was?

Ex. 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

 

[CharismaticLady]

In order to answer your question, you will have to define what "law" ('lawless') you are speaking about and where it can be found to be written, and what the definition of "sins" are that you are utilizing and where that may be found written.

It is more than just Ten Commandments.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

 

[ReChoired]

But the Ten Commandments IS the Old Covenant.

No. You read that INTO the text CL. It doesn't ever say that.

What did you think it was?

Ex. 34:28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

Exactly what it says it is. God's Covenant. It existed before the 'old covenant' (Exo 34:27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.) It existed before the peoples of natural Israel even existed.

What words did Moses write? They're in Exodus 34:10-26.

What are the words that God wrote? They're in Exodus 34:1, the Ten Commandments ( Exo 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. )

That you confuse the two is because you read into the text words that are not present.

 

[ReChoired]

It is more than just Ten Commandments.

Galatians 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

All is found in the Ten Commandments:

Psa_119:96 I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad.​

 

[CharismaticLady]

You just referred to two texts which are found in Deuteronomy 6:5 (love God), which is in the context of Deuteronomy 5, and Exodus 20, the Ten Commandments, and Leviticus 19:17-18, which are also in the context of the same, dealing with "sins", etc. That is the true fulfillment of Jeremiah 31:31-34. God's "my law" (Ten Commandments) written upon the heart by the Holy Ghost/Spirit, to walk in them, live in the Spirit, since the entire Ten Commandment Law of God is spiritual to begin with, and cannot be kept except in that manner. Mere conformity to the letter is useless. Yet, if one claims to walk in the Spirit, and transgress even one letter of that Law, knowingly, they have not the true Spirit of Christ in them at that moment. They have another spirit.

The problem was that those two eternal laws were known to the children of Israel, however, God knew we still had the sin nature and only gave us ten commandments that could be kept WITH a sin nature. Just willpower. But they could never make you truly righteous.

That is why in the New Covenant Jesus took away our sin nature so that the truly righteous requirements of the Royal Law could be lived out in us who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Do you see that those two eternal laws are what Jesus taught and those are HIS commandments. Commandments that DO make us righteous, because of the indwelling Spirit.

1 John 3:23-24.
23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment. 24 Now he who keeps His commandments abides in Him, and He in him. And by this we know that He abides in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us.

 

[CharismaticLady]

No. You read that INTO the text CL. It doesn't ever say that.

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Did you read a different text than I quoted. I did copy and paste it into the post.

Ex. 34:28
28 So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.

2 Corinthians 3:6-11
6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. 10 For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. 11 For if what is passing away was glorious, what remains is much more glorious.

Hebrews 8:13
13 In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Galatians 4:22-31
22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written:

“Rejoice, O barren,
You who do not bear!
Break forth and shout,
You who are not in labor!
For the desolate has many more children
Than she who has a husband.”

28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise. 29 But, as he who was born according to the flesh then persecuted him who was born according to the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what does the Scripture say? “Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.” 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman but of the free.

 

[CharismaticLady]

All is found in the Ten Commandments:

Psa_119:96 I have seen an end of all perfection: but thy commandment is exceeding broad.​

Where is fornication. Where is hatred? Where is homosexuality?

 

[n2thelight]

It really doesn't matter as Christ became our sabbath, in which we should rest in Him everyday.

 

[ReChoired]

Where is hatred?

Hatred (rightful) is not against God's law. God hates all sin, thus hate is included in love. God hates adultery, even as God hates divorce (putting away; Mal. 2:16). Only wrongful hatred is sin.

Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.​

Love is therein defined. Therefore I ought not hate "mercy". God hates the "bondage" of sin and set the captives free by grace.

Rom_1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:​

 

[CharismaticLady]

Hatred (rightful) is not against God's law. God hates all sin, thus hate is included in love. God hates adultery, even as God hates divorce (putting away; Mal. 2:16). Only wrongful hatred is sin.

Exo 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.​

Love is therein defined. Therefore I ought not hate "mercy". God hates the "bondage" of sin and set the captives free by grace.

Rom_1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:​

Are you willfully not understanding what Jesus did for us, and why born again Christian do not need the Ten Commandments? The world does in order to judge in our courts, but those headed for eternal life do not.

 

[ReChoired]

Where is fornication?

God is not a fornicator, but faithful in all that He says and does. To transgress is to break all the commandments of God at the same time, but I just show you a few:

Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
​

Committing fornication is to misrepresent God's own name/character.

Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
​

Committing fornication is to dishonour ones father and mother, to whom they belong in God's stewardship, until one is married.

Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.​

Committing fornication brings death, since it is sin, but even more immediately, since the person or persons that are committing fornication do not have the blessing of God, neither of the Father and Mother in wedlock, the persons bodies themselves, built by God (Exodus 20:11), will actively fight off the other persons organism, as the body sees it as a threat. It's why there are many STD's, and autoimmune diseases in the world. Much of it is the body's reaction and defense against illegal activity. In true marriage, God unites the two minds and hearts together, and so too their bodies come into harmony with one another, no longer seeing each other as a threat at the cellular level. That is more of a medical study though and I briefly mention it.

Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.​

"adultery" is not merely physical, since all of the law of God is "spiritual" (Romans 7:14), and not merely addressing the physically married. It means, breaking of faithfulness, going back on the word of the vow (apostasy), see Ezekiel 16:38, 23:37.

Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.​

Committing fornication is to "steal" that which does not belong to you, in that the person with whom the fornication is being committed is unmarried to you, and not given to you by their father, their mother, and most importantly by God.

 

[ReChoired]

Where is homosexuality?

4th and 5th Commandment just to start with. In the beginning God created (4th C) them "male" (father) and "female" (mother), and marriage is between one natural man and one natural woman, and to be given by their father and mother (5th C). All else outside of that is stealing, adultery, killing (murder), taking God's name/character in vain, etc.

In fact, homosexuality is an UNnatural sin, worse than natural sin. See Romans. Sodom and Gomorrah, etc.

 

[CharismaticLady]

God is not a fornicator, but faithful in all that He says and does. To transgress is to break all the commandments of God at the same time, but I just show you a few:

Exo 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
​

Committing fornication is to misrepresent God's own name/character.

Exo 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
​

Committing fornication is to dishonour ones father and mother, to whom they belong in God's stwewarship, until one is married.

Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.​

Committing fornication brings death, since it is sin, but even more immediately, since the person or person that are committing fornication do not have the blessing of God, neither of the Father and Mother in wedlock, the persons bodies themselves, built by God (Exodus 20:11), will actively fight off the other persons organism, as the body sees it as a threat. It's why there are many STD's, and autoimmune diseases in the world. Much of it is the body's reaction and defense against illegal activity. In true marriage, God unites the two minds and hearts together, and so too their bodies come into harmony with one another, no longer seeing each other as a threat at the cellular level. That is more of a medical study though and I briefly mention it.

Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.​

"adultery" is not merely physical, since all of the law of God is "spiritual" (Romans 7:14), and not merely addressing the physically married. It means, breaking of faithfulness, going back on the word of the vow (apostasy), see Ezekiel 16:38, 23:37.

Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.​

Committing fornication is to "steal" that which does not belong to you, in that the person with whom the fornication is being committed is unmarried to you, and not given to you by their father, their mother, and most importantly by God.

Don't you know that if you love, you won't be doing any of those things, so you don't have to worry that you will be lawless.

 

[CharismaticLady]

4th and 5th Commandment just to start with. In the beginning God created (4th C) them "male" (father) and "female" (mother), and marriage is between one natural man and one natural woman, and to be given by their father and mother (5th C). All else outside of that is stealing, adultery, killing (murder), taking God's name/character in vain, etc.

You do know that I was responding to your claim that all is included in the Ten Commandments. Well, that is why I pointed out that there are things not listed.

 

[CharismaticLady]

No. You read that INTO the text CL. It doesn't ever say that.

Exactly what it says it is. God's Covenant. It existed before the 'old covenant' (Exo 34:27 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.) It existed before the peoples of natural Israel even existed.

What words did Moses write? They're in Exodus 34:10-26.

What are the words that God wrote? They're in Exodus 34:1, the Ten Commandments ( Exo 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest. )

That you confuse the two is because you read into the text words that are not present.

Do you have any idea what the New Covenant is all about? Does it have any commandments?

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

 

[ReChoired]

Do you have any idea what the New Covenant is all about?

Yes.

Does it have any commandments?

Yes, see Jeremiah 31:33 in context, "my law". Now just go to the rest of Jeremiah and see the context of the same words. Then go to Ezekiel, Exodus, etc.

 

[ReChoired]

You do know that I was responding to your claim that all is included in the Ten Commandments. Well, that is why I pointed out that there are things not listed.

As I showed. All falls under its jurisdiction. They don't have to be specifically listed, since the Law of God in its core principles addresses them in the Ten.

 

[ReChoired]

Don't you know that if you love, you won't be doing any of those things, so you don't have to worry that you will be lawless.

Indeed, so loving God, means I obey the 4th commandment down to the last word. I work in the six days, and rest the seventh day, the sabbath day, the Lord's day, keeping it holy as God, even Jesus Christ made it at Creation, and kept it holy in Redemption.

 

[GerhardEbersoehn]

@GerhardEbersoehn I would like your answer please, when you have the time. It would help in my understanding your position. Thank you.

Refer your post #207. I answered you in post 201 already. Shows with what disdain you regard my posts -- umptieth time --.