God changed Seventh Day Sabbath Worship to First Day of the Week

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Context and Context and again, Context!

1...Historically the Commandment was directed at Israel .....they were the recipients of what was written by the finger of God on stone yet these commandments applied to all peoples.
2...From a Spiritual point of view according to Paul, all who embrace the Gospel in their hearts are deemed Israel
Those commandments were not written on the tables that God made and written on by His own finger.

Those commandments were first given in Exodus 20 by voice of God from the mount in the hearing of all the people, and they withdrew. (20:20-22)

God then gave His judgments in Ex 21-23, and Moses wrote those down in a book (24:4-7), which is the beginning of the book of the law of Moses. (Josh 8:31)

It was after all this that God had Moses up in the cloud of the mount to receive from Him His own tables of stone with the law, the 10 commandments (24:12), and the ordinances for the tabernacle, the service, and the High Priesthood of Aaron. (Ex 25-31) These are the tables that Moses brake in pieces and never more existed on earth.

Finally in Exodus 34, the Lord had Moses hew out his own tables of stone (afterall, he did brake God's), and then had Moses write upon them for 40 days and nights all the words of the first tables, pertaining to the tabernacle, it's service, and the priesthood of Aaron, as well as the law, and 10 commandments spoken to the people:

And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments. (34:27-28)

God said He would write those stones hewed by Moses (34:1), and then He had Moses do the writing, so God wrote them by the hand of Moses, which is the enduring pattern of God's Scriptures written by the hands of the prophets and the apostles. God's own finger did not write on those 2nd tables, but rather He wrote them by the hand of Moses, who was the pen of a ready writer in the hands of God.

The children of Israel after the flesh received the 2nd tables with: the law, the commandments, the tabernacle pattern and service, and Aaron's high priesthood, written by God with Moses' fingers. They also received the book of the Law of Moses, begun at the mount with the 10 commandments, and completed in the tabernacle of the wilderness at the mercy sit with God. Both were placed inside the ark of the covenant: the tables of stone being in the midst, and the book being at their side. (Deut 31:26)

When we read Scripture without the smoke of our own beliefs that we want to see written, then we are able to see clearly what actually is written, and what is not written.

(The eternally untouchable Sabbath commanders also tried to come up with some 'pouch' on the side of the ark, in order to keep Moses' book of the law out of it. But of course, the pattern of the tabernacle distinctly written by God has no such 'pouch'. To have added one would have been corruption of the tabernacle and death to the one that tried to put it on there.)
 
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Arthur Pink Sermon the Mount

Any preacher who rejects God's law,
who denies repentance
to be a condition of salvation,
who assures the giddy and godless
that they are loved by God,
who declares that saving faith is nothing more
than an act of the will
which every person has the power to perform
is a false prophet
and should be shunned as a deadly plague.
Arthur Pink Sermon the Mount
They call it 'inward' repentance by which they are saved by grace.

They literally think they can 'repent' of their sinfulness, their sinful nature, their carnal mind born of flesh.

In this way outward repentance of dead works (which is the only Scriptural repentance in sight of God) is set apart from actual conversion and salvation:

Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out.

Repentance from dead works and faith towards God are both the things that accompany salvation and are the first principles of the doctrine of Christ. Without them, there is no salvation, and we are not to bid Godspeed to any that bring not that doctrine of Christ, with it's first principles.
 

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Context and Context and again, Context!

1...Historically the Commandment was directed at Israel .....they were the recipients of what was written by the finger of God on stone yet these commandments applied to all peoples.
2...From a Spiritual point of view according to Paul, all who embrace the Gospel in their hearts are deemed Israel


Not just 'spiritual point of view' but in fact with natural bodies. There is no 'spiritual' Israel of God in Christ Jesus, apart from physical bodies on earth, no more than the body of Christ is only 'spiritual', nor that Christ came only as a quickening spirit, but not in the flesh born of a woman.

The children of Israel of promise and covenant today is that of the risen God of Israel. When the God of Israel, named Jehovah LORD, was crucified by the promised seed of flesh, then with His death, that covenant and law and promise was forever broken, and that seed of flesh was were all broken off from the green olive tree of God's house of Israel:

The highways lie waste, the wayfaring man ceaseth: he hath broken the covenant, he hath despised the cities, he regardeth no man.The earth mourneth and languisheth: Lebanon is ashamed and hewn down: Sharon is like a wilderness; and Bashan and Carmel shake off their fruits. (Is 33:8-9)

That old seed utterly broke the covenant, when they had the God of Israel crucified, and that God of Israel hath broken the covenant, when He died.

Now there is the resurrected from the dead God of Israel, named Lord Jesus, and His New Testament is for a children of promise by faith after the Spirit only: those grafted into His house of Israel and of Jacob. The law of Moses was given by the God of Israel, the LORD Jehovah, from the earthly mount in Person, but now the law of Christ is given by the risen God of Israel, the Lord Jesus, from the heavenly mount Sion, both written in our hearts, and written down by His apostles: called the doctrine of Christ, the apostles' doctrine.

Israel after the flesh, since the cross, is in name only, and the law and covenant given to them is done away, made old, decayed, and vanished.

Anyone who tries to resurrect any of that covenant and law and commandment, that is not specifically written in the law of the risen God and Saviour, is propping up a dead corpse, and trying to restore tables of stone broken in pieces and ground to dust.
 

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Context and Context and again, Context!

1...Historically the Commandment was directed at Israel .....they were the recipients of what was written by the finger of God on stone yet these commandments applied to all peoples.
2...From a Spiritual point of view according to Paul, all who embrace the Gospel in their hearts are deemed Israel
The law of Moses with covenant of the God of Israel, was written to them specifically to obey, and any that desired to enter into that covenant were bound to obey it.

The law of Christ with covenant of the risen God of Israel is written to all, even as all are now commanded to repent and believe Jesus, and it is them that confess faith, that God expects to obey.

The law of Moses and commandments of the Lord in that first covenant with a specific seed of lesh was not written to the whole world.

When Scripture said 'Ye' and 'You', Scripture was not speaking to the world. Now Scripture says to all to repent, and to all to believe and obey.
 
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The law of Moses with covenant of the risen God of Israel is written to all, even as all are now commanded to repent and believe Jesus, and it is them that confess faith, that God expects to obey.

John 6:65-66 reads:
65) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given him of my Father.
66) From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

BECAUSE they thought all they had to do was confess faith as you have suggested.

To God Be The Glory
 

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John 6:65-66 reads:
65) And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given him of my Father.
66) From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

BECAUSE they thought all they had to do was confess faith as you have suggested.

To God Be The Glory
I suggest nothing. What I say is:

We are to confess and keep an obey the faith of the Lord Jesus, the doctrine of Christ and of His apostles, which is His Word and law...

We are under the law of Christ and are subject to His law to obey: repentance from dead works and doing the Word of God, and not being hearers only, are the things that accompany His salvation and justification by grace.

Without these things that accompany his salvation, there is no salvation nor justification in Him.

None of this includes the law of Moses given by the God of Israel, which ended, when He died at the cross. Now the law of Christ is given to us by the risen God and Saviour, Jesus, which we are bound to keep and do to abide in Him and not be broken off as a dead branch with dead faith.
 

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None of this includes the law of Moses given by the God of Israel, which ended, when He died at the cross. Now the law of Christ is given to us by the risen God and Saviour, Jesus, which we are bound to keep and do to abide in Him and not be broken off as a dead branch with dead faith.

broken off as a dead branch with dead faith.
 

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The First Day
"For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth" Exodus 20:11.
2:4 in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens
2:5 before every plant before rain not a man

"in the beginning" Genesis 1:1
"God called the light Day and the darkness he called Night" 1:3-5a
"and the evening and the morning were the First Day" 1:5b
"and God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters" 1:6-8a
"there went up a mist from the earth and watered face of the ground" 2:6
"God saw that it was good." 10

The Second Day
"And the evening and the morning were the Second Day 1:8b
"waters under gathered seas - dry land earth" 1:9-10
"grass trees" 1:11-12
2:8-9 garden Eden every tree; of life, of knowledge of good and evil.
2:10-14 rivers Pison Gihon Hiddekel Euphrates

"God saw that it was good." 12

The Third Day
"And the evening and the morning were the Third Day." 13
"lights to divide to rule seasons days years" 14-18
2:8,14 topography eastward towards the east
"God saw that it was good." 18

The Fourth Day
"And the evening and the morning were the Fourth Day." 19
"water life, fish and fowl of heaven." 20-22
2:10 the garden (life) from thence parted and became into heads
2:19 out of the ground the LORD God formed every fowl of the air
"And God blessed them" 22

The Fifth Day
"And the evening and the morning were the Fifth Day" 23
"cattle and beasts of the earth" 24
2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air
"God saw that it was good." 25

The Sixth Day
"And the evening and the morning were the Sixth Day." 31b
"And God said, Let us make man in our image" 26
"male and female created he them" 27
2:7 of ground God formed man
2:21-23 out of man God made woman

"And the evening and the morning were the Sixth Day." 31b
"God saw every thing that he had made, and behold, it was very good." 31a
 

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What I say is:

We are to confess and keep an obey the faith of the Lord Jesus, the doctrine of Christ and of His apostles, which is His Word and law...

Voetsek Satan!
So, our Lord Jesus changed Faith, doctrine, His Word and law? That's not so. Rather your, <<Faith, doctrine, Word and law>> changed Lord and Saviour. Undoubtedly, because Christians confess, believe and obey THE ONLY, GOD the Almighty, Father Son and Holy Spirit, whom all True Believers EVER have confessed, believed and obeyed.
 

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What I say is:

rds has all these lengthy pretentious smooth talk posts by reason singly and for purpose solely of "the day The Seventh Day Sabbath OF THE LORD GOD", to get rid of it and forget it and NOT "REMEMBER the Sabbath the LORD resting revived and reviving rested on".
If not "GOD thus concerning the Seventh Day spake IN THAT on the day The Seventh Day He from ALL his works RESTED BY THE SON", no arrogant mortal ever would have had a word to say against the Sabbath OF THE LORD their soul so loathes.
 
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rds has all these lengthy pretentious smooth talk posts by reason singly and for purpose solely of "the day The Seventh Day Sabbath OF THE LORD GOD", to get rid of it and forget it and NOT "REMEMBER the Sabbath the LORD resting revived and reviving rested on".
If not "GOD thus concerning the Seventh Day spake IN THAT on the day The Seventh Day He from ALL his works RESTED BY THE SON", no arrogant mortal ever would have had a word to say against the Sabbath OF THE LORD their soul so loathes.
You finally got it. Good job. Very smart. I was beginning to wonder about your cognitive abilities.

You have shown yourself a true Sabatismal Scholar and Warrior of the highest order.

I hope all your Sabbaths are fulfilled with all the outward righteousnesses, that you so plainly deserve. I would be proud of you, but then I think you got enough for yourself.

Do ya'll use camouflage while conducting Sabbath Commando raids, when you launch out in war of proselytization?

Maybe that shade of blue on the hem of the robe? Little bells to ring, if you catch one?

For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 

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rds has all these lengthy pretentious smooth talk posts by reason singly and for purpose solely of "the day The Seventh Day Sabbath OF THE LORD GOD", to get rid of it and forget it and NOT "REMEMBER the Sabbath the LORD resting revived and reviving rested on".
If not "GOD thus concerning the Seventh Day spake IN THAT on the day The Seventh Day He from ALL his works RESTED BY THE SON", no arrogant mortal ever would have had a word to say against the Sabbath OF THE LORD their soul so loathes.
lengthy pretentious smooth talk

I.e. can't refute the Scriptures and their sensical conclusion, and so get really mean and roar and scare all away with great and mighty mouth:

And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies.

Just shows me the true correction has dumbstruck the Sunday Sabbatheur, which frankly may indeed be a puny version of the Holiest of All Saturday Sabbatheers.
 

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You finally got it. Good job. Very smart. I was beginning to wonder about your cognitive abilities.

You have shown yourself a true Sabatismal Scholar and Warrior of the highest order.

I hope all your Sabbaths are fulfilled with all the outward righteousnesses, that you so plainly deserve. I would be proud of you, but then I think you got enough for yourself.

Do ya'll use camouflage while conducting Sabbath Commando raids, when you launch out in war of proselytization?

Maybe that shade of blue on the hem of the robe? Little bells to ring, if you catch one?

For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Christians aren't required to hold to the Jew's sabbath (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset). Sunday is considered a rest day for Christians, and it is NOT the Jew's sabbath. So calling Sunday Church the sabbath of The Bible really isn't correct per God's Word. And by the way, the early Apostles, who were all Jews, still kept the Biblical sabbath, and then on the first day of the week, Sunday, met and had Church.
 

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Voetsek Satan!
So, our Lord Jesus changed Faith, doctrine, His Word and law? That's not so. Rather your, <<Faith, doctrine, Word and law>> changed Lord and Saviour. Undoubtedly, because Christians confess, believe and obey THE ONLY, GOD the Almighty, Father Son and Holy Spirit, whom all True Believers EVER have confessed, believed and obeyed.
I am not surprised you cannot comprehend accurately what is being written by someone else, since you do the same with Scripoture itself.

The law of Moses given by the God of Israel on the earthly mount, is not the law of Christ given by the risen God of Israel from heavenly mount Sion.

Since the God of Israel, called jehovah, was not called Jesus, until His birth on earth by a woman, then that Jesus did not change His Word, nor His law, nor His commandments. He did however change His covenant, law, and word of promise, that He made as Jehovah on the mount to Moses, for the carnal seed of Israel.

Which carnal seed you so love to emulate, because you think they are really special, and perhaps you think you can by Sabbath Command even feel as they before the mount, when they heard the voice of the God of Israel for themselves.

By the way, do you ever hear any voices in the air during your Sabbath day meditations and cogitations of the flesh?
 

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Christians aren't required to hold to the Jew's sabbath (Friday sunset to Saturday sunset). Sunday is considered a rest day for Christians, and it is NOT the Jew's sabbath. So calling Sunday Church the sabbath of The Bible really isn't correct per God's Word. And by the way, the early Apostles, who were all Jews, still kept the Biblical sabbath, and then on the first day of the week, Sunday, met and had Church.
Never heard it like that before. Sounds good and Scriptural to me.

All Scripture does make perfect sense, when rightly divided. Therefore, when strange zeal and confusion comes along, it certainly isn't Scripture of truth.