the great Jewish "distress"

[David in NJ]

That’s about loosing your salvation it’s about letting your guard down. Satan can’t snatch anyone out of Gods hand

Satan can’t break the great chain but if you get to close to a dog on a chain he can still bite you

Correct. Now you are aligning yourself with Scripture.
The Scripture cannot lie.
Dwell on this short poem:

Order of Scripture is laid out by God
Woven through His Word
Clear to See if you bend the knee
Not to me or to other men
But to God
Who holds the Eternal Pen.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

They claim God would never do such a thing would he ? well he kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden because ? The flood ? Sodom and Vomiting out the Jews from the Land and may I go on and on about all of the because :).

One abides in Jesus Christ or one is not worthy of God in fact, as no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son.

 

[David in NJ]

They claim God would never do such a thing would he ? well he kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden because ? The flood ? Sodom and Vomiting out the Jews from the Land and may I go on and on about all of the because :).

One abides in Jesus Christ or one is not worthy of God in fact, as no one comes to the Father but through his only begotten Son.

They also reject this warning from the Lord: Matthew 25: 1-13

 

[marks]

If so then what I have been accused of (which I didn’t actually do) you just did because you added things to the scriptures that aren’t there.

Now I wouldn’t put the curse on you because it’s an interpretation

I guess I missed the point of what was happening . . .

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Much love!

 

[DPMartin]

40 years ? well well well you know what 40 years means in the OT. And why Holy Moses let them about for 40 years was because of. remember them their serpents and all as well do you.

In Germany 90% of Jews were happy to live their for generations even for 2000 year for some you know, not to forget that 90 % of German Jews despised the so called Zionist in fact, go do your homework on that point bro and that most of the Jews who went to the Newly created dumping ground were not happy at all in fact, so go do your homework on that as well bro.

The so called Zionist were in bed with Hitler full on and Hitler was a bastard Jew who was slid into power, all was the work of the so called Zionist and their Master Rothschild who created the so called Zionist and has stated so in fact openly. Israel is his baby ! Look at Pope Frances who is his boss ? Lord Rothschild in fact, I seen his declaration on TV in fact in front of billions. Pop France has all his top subjects come to him in directly the same way and kiss his ring when he sits in that chair ? well that what Pope Frances did on TV, Lord Rothschild was sitting in a chair and Pope Frances came has his subjects do. Pope Frances committed blasphemy right their on TV and the majority of RC what did they do ? do they even know what it means in fact most are just worldly dupes, but what of the others

Pope Francis only says the words Jesus Christ if he really can't get around it, he truly does not want to offend anyone with saying the words, so he is at pains to say such.
Lord Rothschild is Pope Francis lap dog in fact and so are the so called Zionist and all the MSM are lap dogs to the Zionist whore that killed 6 million true Jews, they call such a burnt offering to there gods. That was what it was all about.

W Churchill said in 1965 what WW2 was all about on TV, winning markets ! :cool: then he died that month. WC was Lord Rothschild's lap dog, Lord Rothschild had WC on a leash all though WW2 and they showed such in the papers back in the days.

Look at Pope Frances he is so worldly in what he says, you could come across what he says out of any Fabian cultural Marxist Socialist Party Room bag of tricks, not to mention some Freemasons Lodges for sure that are all in bed with the Islamic trash Taliban and so called Zionist trash with Biden's mob of Satanist swimming in the same Sewer of Anti-Christ.
The future looks grim the worlds biggest terrorism Nation has been set free by the workings of Who ? that's right who is behind all this insanity ! we are being set up ! full on in so many ways that it's no joke. over the years the Blacks have been fed stupid dribble to hate an enemy and Islam has been set to avenge an enemy and the Communist have been fully propped up China due to greed and N Korea by USA tax dollars for many years.

No wonder the USA is bankrupt, it's been bleed dry. no one could be so stupid not to be able to see the workings of Satan in all that has been going on. but as we know Jesus said he is not of this world. boy what an insult :cool: but Jesus is 100% correct ! why should I not be surprised about the workings of Man, such is a creep show ! the game play in leading people astray. but carnal people will not believe me because they are in love with this world and will say No ! no no no, the truth is to hard to handle !
They are of this world can not handle the truth and that's the sad fact, because it hurts ! just as when Jesus said, I am not of this world ! that's an insult to Satan directly because this is his world and it is of carnal Mans works.
Islam, Jews and all who reject Christ Jesus are of this world and are all Anti-Christ in fact. how could a Christian get such wrong and start barracking for the other side ? but as Jesus said they will come saying lord lord and he will say I never knew you and they will be in Hell for ever. but they don't believe in Hell do they.

well this rant ain't worth the hard drive space in needs to keep it. this is about "Jewish distress" not your MR OBVIOSE observation of the corrupt world.

 

[Marty fox]

Correct. Now you are aligning yourself with Scripture.
The Scripture cannot lie.
Dwell on this short poem:

Order of Scripture is laid out by God
Woven through His Word
Clear to See if you bend the knee
Not to me or to other men
But to God
Who holds the Eternal Pen.

Here is a rule that I go by

The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The individual passages can never be interpreted in a way as to conflict the whole of scripture

 

[David in NJ]

I guess I missed the point of what was happening . . .

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Much love!

He thinks i some how put a curse on him. This is the error and i forgive him.

Brother marks, know this, i care about everyone, i am not angry with anyone. i get very upset when people think that the Word of God is open for men's opinion., and they go down the religious road = add to and take away from scripture, so that it fits their OPINION.
PEACE

For instance, member Truth7t7 adds and takes away when, in his opinion, he believes satan is currently bound in chains and locked up.
Once i exposed this error with CLEAR scripture showing that "satan roams about like a lion seeking whom he may devour" - 1 Peter 5:8
He, like others do, go on the defense instead of humbling oneself before the Word.
Then i asked him "When did satan get locked up and the Thousand Year Reign Began?" - Of course - No answer because it has not yet occurred.

 

[David in NJ]

Here is a rule that I go by

The whole of scripture is greater than the sum of its individual passages. You can not comprehend the bible as a whole without comprehending its individual passages and you cannot comprehend its individual passages without comprehending the bible as a whole. The individual passages can never be interpreted in a way as to conflict the whole of scripture

That is 100% TRUE - Now follow it. When a Brother shows Scripture that CLEARLY conflicts religious opinion - DUMP the OPINION.
Then the Holy Spirit will be your Comforter and lead you into all Truth.
But, if you refuse and hold unto religious error, the Holy Spirit will leave you there until you humble yourself before God.

Order of Scripture is laid out by God
Woven through His Word
Clear to See if you bend the knee
Not to me or to other men
But to God
Who holds the Eternal Pen.

 

[Marty fox]

He thinks i some how put a curse on him. This is the error and i forgive him.

Brother marks, know this, i care about everyone, i am not angry with anyone. i get very upset when people think that the Word of God is open for men's opinion., and they go down the religious road = add to and take away from scripture, so that it fits their OPINION.
PEACE

For instance, member Truth7t7 adds and takes away when, in his opinion, he believes satan is currently bound in chains and locked up.
Once i exposed this error with CLEAR scripture showing that "satan roams about like a lion seeking whom he may devour" - 1 Peter 5:8
He, like others do, go on the defense instead of humbling oneself before the Word.
Then i asked him "When did satan get locked up and the Thousand Year Reign Began?" - Of course - No answer because it has not yet occurred.

Just an FYI I didn't think that you put a curse on me you were warning me about what John said about changing Revelation but I didn't change anything I had a different interpretation deriving from other scriptures

 

[David in NJ]

Just an FYI I didn't think that you put a curse on me you were warning me about what John said about changing Revelation but I didn't change anything I had a different interpretation deriving from other scriptures

This may not be you, but anyone who says satan is currently bound and locked up in prison is in error and is adding and taking away from Revelation.
Have you submitted unto the Lord Jesus and accept the Truth? = as written in 1 peter 5:8
Satan confronted Jesus, face to face, on earth, no binding of satan took place.
Satan went his way after tempting the Lord. Back to roaming the earth unbound.
Did Jesus cast out demons? YES
Did Jesus send those demons to Hades or Prison or Tartarus - No, He did not.

Do you know who are the angels that are locked up as mentioned in Jude???
Do you know when and why they were locked up???
Are you willing to submit your mind unto the Mind of Christ???

 

[Zao is life]

I don't think you know what you're talking about. I was referring to Historical Interpretation, which recognizes prophecies that have already been fulfilled. This I'm distinguishing from "Historicism" as a system of interpretation, which can be confused with how some Christians in history have interpreted the Antichrist, for example, as the RCC.

I interpret the Abomination of Desolation as the Roman Army, which destroyed Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD. I don't know of any Christian scholars who would deny this, just as they would not deny that Jesus already came and fulfilled prophecy by dying on the cross.

However, I view myself as a Futurist, because I believe the book of Revelation largely refers to a future, as yet unknown Antichrist, who will preside over 10 nations which have emerged out of the former Roman Empire.



That may be true, but it fails to distinguish between Preterism, of any kind, and Historical Interpretations of Prophecy that are not Preterism of any kind. I already explained this to you. Preterists interpret most of Revelation as fulfilled in ancient Rome. Partial Preterists accept that a few things are still future, in particular Christ's 2nd Coming.

I do not interpret most of Revelation as fulfilled in ancient Rome. I interpret most of Revelation as fulfilled in a future Antichrist. I explained that to you. If you have trouble understanding that, then you don't really understand the peculiarities of these schools of interpretation.

Don't try to fit me into a particular school unless you know how they differ from one another. The respectful way is to learn first, and then proclaim something--not the reverse order.

Just thought I'd give you some extra facts about the AoD in the first century.

The KJV of Daniel 9:27 calls it "the overspreading of abominations". Josephus wrote in detail about the abmonations in the temple. Here's part of it:

QUOTE
For notwithstanding these men (Josephus is talking about seditious Jewish zealots within the city) were mad with all sorts of impiety, yet did they still admit those that desired to offer their sacrifices, although they took care to search the people of their own country beforehand, and both suspected and watched them; while they were not so much afraid of strangers, who, although they had gotten leave of them, how cruel soever they were, to come into that court, were yet often destroyed by this sedition;

for those darts that were thrown by the engines (by the seditious Jewish zealots) came with that force, that they went over all the buildings, and reached as far as the altar, and the temple itself, and fell upon the priests, and those that were about the sacred offices;

insomuch that many persons who came thither with great zeal from the ends of the earth, to offer sacrifices at this celebrated place, which was esteemed holy by all mankind, fell down before their own sacrifices themselves, and sprinkled that altar which was venerable among all men, both Greeks and Barbarians, with their own blood; till the dead bodies of strangers were mingled together with those of their own country, and those of profane persons with those of the priests, and the blood of all sorts of dead carcasses stood in lakes in the holy courts themselves.
UNQUOTE
From Josephus: "The War of the Jews", Book 5, Chapter 1, Section 3.

The above took place in 70 A.D during the Roman siege, and Josephus blames God's allowing the city and temple to be destroyed upon this sacrilegous pullution of the temple itself. To me there is no reason whatsoever to do a cut 'n paste job with the 70th week of Daniel 9:24-27, cutting out from the 1st century and pasting it in at the close of this Age. (I know that's not you doing that, but just thought I'd mention that Josephus believed that that is why God allowed the temple to be burned with fire when it was set on fire by the Romans).

 

[Keraz]

The above took place in 70 A.D during the Roman siege, and Josephus blames God's allowing the city and temple to be destroyed upon this sacrilegous pullution of the temple itself. To me there is no reason whatsoever to do a cut 'n paste job with the 70th week of Daniel 9:24-27, cutting out from the 1st century and pasting it in at the close of this Age. (I know that's not you doing that, but just thought I'd mention that Josephus believed that that is why God allowed the temple to be burned with fire when it was set on fire by the Romans).

The preview of what is yet to happen in the end times; the new Temple desecrated, as 2 Thess 2;4 clearly says, was Antiochus 4, in 167 BC.
What happened in 70 AD has nothing to do with what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:15

 

[Zao is life]

The preview of what is yet to happen in the end times; the new Temple desecrated, as 2 Thess 2;4 clearly says, was Antiochus 4, in 167 BC.
What happened in 70 AD has nothing to do with what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:15

2 Thessalonians 2:4 uses the Greek word naos. It referred to the holy place and holy of holies of the temple in Jerusalem only. The Greek word hieron refers to the entire temple precincts, including the outer court and the temple buildings.

The last time the word naos is used in reference to the temple in Jerusalem, is in the verses describing the tearing of the veil. From then on, naos is only used in reference to the individual bodies of saints as the temple, the church as the temple, and in every reference to the heavenly temple in the Revelation.

2 Thessalonians 2:4 clearly talks of the man of sin seating himself up in the church.

 

[David in NJ]

The preview of what is yet to happen in the end times; the new Temple desecrated, as 2 Thess 2;4 clearly says, was Antiochus 4, in 167 BC.
What happened in 70 AD has nothing to do with what Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24:15

Are you sure that the destruction of the Temple was only a preview???

As Jesus left the temple and was walking away, His disciples came up to Him to point out its buildings.
"Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Matthew 24: 2-3

 

[marks]

cut 'n paste job with the 70th week of Daniel 9:24-27, cutting out from the 1st century and pasting it in at the close of this Age. (I know that's not you doing that, but just thought I'd mention that Josephus believed that that is why God allowed the temple to be burned with fire when it was set on fire by the Romans).

Josephus got that one wrong.

Luke 19:41-44 KJV
41) And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42) Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
43) For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44) And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Much love!

 

[Zao is life]

Josephus got that one wrong.

Luke 19:41-44 KJV
41) And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42) Saying, If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
43) For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44) And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

Much love!

I think many of the saints have got it wrong.

 

[marks]

I think many of the saints have got it wrong.

You can leave me out of the mix, just compare Josephus' words to Jesus' words, and you can see the difference. And then pick which one you think is right, and you don't have to tell me.

Much love!

 

[Zao is life]

You can leave me out of the mix, just compare Josephus' words to Jesus' words, and you can see the difference. And then pick which one you think is right, and you don't have to tell me.

Much love!

Jesus stated the temple would be destroyed because they rejected Him. Josephus wasn't a Christian, so he had a different idea about the reason.

.. and your argument has nothing to do with the price of eggs (i.e the fact that there was an overspreading of abomination taking place in the temple, as Daniel 9:27 prophesied).

 

[Keraz]

Are you sure that the destruction of the Temple was only a preview???

As Jesus left the temple and was walking away, His disciples came up to Him to point out its buildings.
"Do you see all these things?” He replied. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”
Matthew 24: 2-3

What I said was that the 70 AD destruction of the 2nd Temple has nothing to do with the prophesies about how the Anti-Christ will desecrate the 3rd Temple. As per 2 Thess 2:4

 

[Zao is life]

What I said was that the 70 AD destruction of the 2nd Temple has nothing to do with the prophesies about how the Anti-Christ will desecrate the 3rd Temple. As per 2 Thess 2:4

The temple of 2 Thessalonians 2:4 is the church.

Also, the Messiah came and was crucified according to the exact time that many 1st-century Jews were expecting, because it was prophesied by Daniel in Daniel 9:24-27, and the time for the fulfillment of the prophecy (i.e the 70th week), had arrived, because the Jews who were familiar with Daniel 9:24-27 knew that the first 69 weeks was about to be completed (circa what we today call the year A.D 27) - the exact year Jesus began His ministry after being baptized by John the Baptist.

There are even many Rabbis today who say that the Messiah "is already 2,000 years late" because of this, and have developed theories to explain it.

The fact of the first century fulfillment of the 70th week of Daniel is as Preterist as the crucifixion of Christ. This is true regardless of whether or not Preterism or Partial Preterism is a vessel of "truth and nothing but the truth".

You may want to read "The Atonement Clock" by Christian Gedge in order to get yourself more informed on the subject.