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theefaith

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I told you already: I'm not Protestant. That's your pride and arrogance that gets in the way of comprehension.

Tell me: how many billions of dollars $$$ has your church paid out to your pedophile priests, brothers, cardinals, etc?

this is found in all churches and it’s not a Christian thing but a result of the apostasy of modernism
 

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First of all - I was ONLY referring to the treasures in Solomon's TEMPLE - not his personal wealth.

Secondly - the issue you originally had was with works of art, etc. that the Church has in its possession - and I had to explain to you that this is GOD'S and was created for HIS glory. That's why I also had to educate you about the fact that we are the LARGEST charitable organization in the world.

Funny, how you MOVE the goalposts and back pedal when you suddenly realize you're wrong . . .'
No goal posts moved, lol. I did not bring up the art issue. But it is definitely concerning (some expenses simply do not glorify God). I'm more concerned about the size of the Catholic churches bank accounts compared to how much they take in and how much they give out as charity.
 

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but was it divine revelation and the inspired word of God when they received it and taught it?
Of course it was. And then the revelation of the mystery was complete. And now we teach that revelation, not add to it. But the Catholics are sure they have the authority to add to it. We protesters know that to be the sure sign of a false cult.
 
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Of course it was. And then the revelation of the mystery was complete. And now we teach that revelation, not add to it. But the Catholics are sure they have the authority to add to it. We protesters know that to be the sure sign of a false cult.

not so the faith of Catholics is the deposit of faith given to the church of the apostles by Christ Jude 1:3
 

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the Bible has no denominations only the one true church founded by Christ on Peter and the apostles Matt 16:18 18:18
Jn 10:16 eph 2:20
Not founded on Peter, but on the revelation through faith that Jesus is the Son of the living God.
 

theefaith

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"By one Spirit".
My point exactly.
The baptism into the body of Christ is being attached to it via the Spirit, not via water.
Christian baptism requires water and words I baptize you in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit and the intention of regeneration
New creation in christ
 

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a catechumen and not a Christian ok
If you were in the presence of pope francis, would slobber as did John Boehner in the Speaker's chair? Would you kiss his ring? Would you kiss his feet? I would wash his feet, and tell him that Jesus loves him and wants him to repent of his evil ways. Just curious what your reactions would be.
 

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Not founded on Peter, but on the revelation through faith that Jesus is the Son of the living God.

sorry on peter

you cannot govern the church on a confession

you cannot give the keys of the kingdom Isa 22:21-22 to a confession

you cannot give a confession power to bind and loose
 

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If you were in the presence of pope francis, would slobber as did John Boehner in the Speaker's chair? Would you kiss his ring? Would you kiss his feet? I would wash his feet, and tell him that Jesus loves him and wants him to repent of his evil ways. Just curious what your reactions would be.

who?

I submit to the valid supreme Roman pontiff who rules the kingdom in the place of Christ Matt 16:18 Isa 22/21-22

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

No evidence for Francis being valid but teaching error contrary to the faith
Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
 

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We must submit to the kings representative

example of Joseph under pharaoh

gen 37:7 For, behold, we were binding sheaves in the field, and, lo, my sheaf arose, and also stood upright; and, behold, your sheaves stood round about, and made obeisance to my sheaf.

8 And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words.

9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?

Gen 41:40 Thou shalt be over my house, and according unto thy word shall all my people be ruled: only in the throne will I be greater than thou.

41 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, See, I have set thee over all the land of Egypt.

42 And Pharaoh took off his ring from his hand, and put it upon Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck;

Gen 41:28 And they answered, Thy servant our father is in good health, he is yet alive. And they bowed down their heads, and made obeisance.
 

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So we obedience to Christ and to Christ thru his true representatives peter and the apostles
 

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who?

I submit to the valid supreme Roman pontiff who rules the kingdom in the place of Christ Matt 16:18 Isa 22/21-22

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

No evidence for Francis being valid but teaching error contrary to the faith
Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3
What is the name of this "valid supreme Roman pontiff"?
 

theefaith

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What is the name of this "valid supreme Roman pontiff"?

We are in spiritual exile with no supreme Roman pontiff the church is in the guardian of the valid faithful bishops who are successors to the apostles
 

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I told you already: I'm not Protestant. That's your pride and arrogance that gets in the way of comprehension.

Tell me: how many billions of dollars $$$ has your church paid out to your pedophile priests, brothers, cardinals, etc?

It's such a great point and stunning contrast. On the one hand, they claim to be the ultimate moral authority on Earth. On the other hand, pedophilia is epidemic. Only unbridled arrogance can achieve such contrast.
 
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