The problem with the Bible alone!

[LTJMP14]

Then please explain the words of Christ in scripture
Matt 28:19-20

19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I am with you (the apostles) until the end or his return?

The 1st century apostles were to be witnesses to the entire world, and they are. Jesus Christ was with them via the Holy Spirit and Jesus is with them now in the heavenly realm. The witness of the apostles is blessed by the Holy Spirit wherever it is confessed and preached. And lo, Jesus is with those witnesses and the preaching of the Lord's gospel in every part of the world, and HE will remain until the end.

 

[Marymog]

I told you already: I'm not Protestant. That's your pride and arrogance that gets in the way of comprehension.

Tell me: how many billions of dollars $$$ has your church paid out to your pedophile priests, brothers, cardinals, etc?

Ummmm.....you do know the accepted definition of a Protestant? Don’t you?

Protestant: a member or follower of any of the Western Christian churches that are separate from the Roman Catholic Church and follow the principles of the Reformation, including the Baptist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran churches.

If you are not Protestant then that means you are NOT “separate from the Roman Catholic Church”. Soooo are you saying you are catholic????

 

[theefaith]

The 1st century apostles were to be witnesses to the entire world, and they are. Jesus Christ was with them via the Holy Spirit and Jesus is with them now in the heavenly realm. The witness of the apostles is blessed by the Holy Spirit wherever it is confessed and preached. And lo, Jesus is with those witnesses and the preaching of the Lord's gospel in every part of the world, and HE will remain until the end.

not biblical
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4 the church continues his mission ministry and work of redemption by the acts of the apostles till he returns

 

[theefaith]

The 1st century apostles were to be witnesses to the entire world, and they are. Jesus Christ was with them via the Holy Spirit and Jesus is with them now in the heavenly realm. The witness of the apostles is blessed by the Holy Spirit wherever it is confessed and preached. And lo, Jesus is with those witnesses and the preaching of the Lord's gospel in every part of the world, and HE will remain until the end.

Jn 15:5
Eph 5:24

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I never said mother of his divinity
I said mother of God
Cos Jesus is God and Mary is his mother
Same as mother of our savior, salvation, of the word etc.

Do you believe she had anything to do with His divine nature?

 

[theefaith]

Do you believe she had anything to do with His divine nature?

of course not
How can a creature?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

of course not
How can a creature?

So she actually contributed the humanity of jesus by her genes and not his divinity8. God placed the divine genes (a metaphor to describe ) to Jesus. she carried both but only contributed His human DNA not HIs Divine DNA.

MOther of God is an error. she carried and bore jesus, but had nothing to do with His divinity, that was already exisitng from eternity past.

 

[theefaith]

So she actually contributed the humanity of jesus by her genes and not his divinity8. God placed the divine genes (a metaphor to describe ) to Jesus. she carried both but only contributed His human DNA not HIs Divine DNA.

MOther of God is an error. she carried and bore jesus, but had nothing to do with His divinity, that was already exisitng from eternity past.

the issue was is that Jesus is God!
Mary is his mother
The mother of his entire person
So she is the mother of God

and scripture has it matt 16:18 and 18:18 bound on earth by the holy apostles in council bound in heaven

Mother of God
Council Of Ephesus – 431 A.D.

If anyone does not confess that Emmanuel is God in truth, and therefore that the holy virgin is the mother of God (for she bore in a fleshly way the Word of God become flesh) let him be anathema.


and Lk 1:43

 

[LTJMP14]

not biblical
Christ and his church are one acts 9:4 the church continues his mission ministry and work of redemption by the acts of the apostles till he returns

Except there are no apostles today. John was the last to due circa 98 AD. Anyone who claims the title apostle today is a false teacher from which everyone should run.

 

[LTJMP14]

Ummmm.....you do know the accepted definition of a Protestant? Don’t you?

Protestant: a member or follower of any of the Western Christian churches that are separate from the Roman Catholic Church and follow the principles of the Reformation, including the Baptist, Presbyterian, and Lutheran churches.

If you are not Protestant then that means you are NOT “separate from the Roman Catholic Church”. Soooo are you saying you are catholic????

The Roman catholic church is apostate. I am in the church of which Jesus spoke and of which Matthew and Paul and John and Ignatius of Antioch all spoke and wrote about. The ekklesia katholikos. Not the perverted pedophile homosexual Roman catholic church or any of its denominations.

The reformation brought a movement that man labeled Protestant. It was a protest movement against an apostate church.

The Roman catholic church was the first Protestant church after it began to assign to itself sovereign authority over all souls and calling its leader sancta papa, vicariously Jesus, and sole mediator between God and man. The reformation was a protest against apostacy.

 

[theefaith]

Except there are no apostles today. John was the last to due circa 98 AD. Anyone who claims the title apostle today is a false teacher from which everyone should run.

Matt 28:19-20 says we have apostles

Jn 20:21-23 says the apostles have the same mission power and authority as Christ
Since chose apostles and sent them to teach the apostles have the same authority and have been doing so for 2000 yrs

acts 1 Mathias

 

[An Apologetic Sheepdog]

Matt 28:19-20 says we have apostles

Jn 20:21-23 says the apostles have the same mission power and authority as Christ
Since chose apostles and sent them to teach the apostles have the same authority and have been doing so for 2000 yrs

acts 1 Mathias

You don't understand what you don't understand. Apostle means one called/commissioned to a purpose or mission. The "office" of apostle (the 12) had a requirement of being a direct eye witness of the risen Christ ( which is why Jesus met Paul on the road to Damascus).

That "office" ended with them. The "job" of apostle is still with us but in no way carries the authority of the 12.

 

[LTJMP14]

Matt 28:19-20 says we have apostles

Jn 20:21-23 says the apostles have the same mission power and authority as Christ
Since chose apostles and sent them to teach the apostles have the same authority and have been doing so for 2000 yrs

acts 1 Mathias

Matthias was an apostle because he was also a disciple of Jesus during Jesus's Earthly ministry. There are no apostles today since no one living today was alive for Jesus's earthly ministry.

 

[LTJMP14]

Matt 28:19-20 says we have apostles

Jn 20:21-23 says the apostles have the same mission power and authority as Christ
Since chose apostles and sent them to teach the apostles have the same authority and have been doing so for 2000 yrs

acts 1 Mathias

If you are being taught that grace comes through Mary, I strongly advise you leave that false teacher and find shelter with a Bible teaching Bible believing teacher.

 

[theefaith]

You don't understand what you don't understand. Apostle means one called/commissioned to a purpose or mission. The "office" of apostle (the 12) had a requirement of being a direct eye witness of the risen Christ ( which is why Jesus met Paul on the road to Damascus).

That "office" ended with them. The "job" of apostle is still with us but in no way carries the authority of the 12.

Only that the public revelation was complete with the apostles
The sacred deposit saved of faith Jude 1:3
But there still are apostles and they still have the two edged sword of truth
Yo define and declare the truth!
And
To condemn all errors!

for example

Pius 11 encyclical divini redemptoris
On atheistic communism

 

[Truther]

Christ and his church are one acts 9:4

we are baptized into the church


1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

And Christ

Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

You proved my point that we are baptized into Christ. The body of Christ. Not the body of me or you.

Get it right.

 

[Truther]

what is ecumenical Rome?

ecumenical only means in the house
Or of the household of faith

Ecumenical means religious Rome(Roman church/RCC), not political Rome.

Political Rome evolved into religious Rome.

 

[Truther]

no problem with the Christian ritual of baptism

Except the RCC hates Acts 2:38 specifically.

 

[charity]

but you agreed that it was divine revelation they received apart from the Bible right?

'God, who at sundry times and in divers manners
spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son,
Whom He hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also He made the worlds;'
(Heb 1:1-2a)

Hello @theefaith,

That which was Divinely revealed to the Apostles and Prophets is what we have contained in the Word of God. It is the sum total of all Truth.

'How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;
which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord,
and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him;
God also bearing them witness,
both with signs and wonders,
and with divers miracles,
and gifts of the Holy Ghost,
according to His Own will?'
(Heb 2:3)

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Christian baptism requires water and words I baptize you in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit and the intention of regeneration
New creation in christ

Yes, that's how they did it in the early part of Acts (well, I mean minus the "Father", and "Holy Spirit" part, lol). But God is sovereign. His Spirit moves when and where He wants. Some people are baptized into the body of Christ via the Spirit before their water baptism (i.e., Cornelius). Some after. I know you view a specific water baptism as a carnal, legalistic means to be saved but it is not portrayed as such in the scriptures. Spiritless men made it that.