Bible alone heresy!

[theefaith]

“So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the LORD." - Deut. 8:3

"But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ” - Matt. 4:4

“Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it." Deut. 12:32

Call me crazy, but the biblical Christ says man is to live by what God said, not man-made councils, creeds, dogmas, or the personal opinions of theologians.

You have two problems

one: “every word of God” so you don’t believe that the word of God is limited to scripture?

two: you don’t believe Christ?


Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!

Christ and His church are one. Acts 9:4 we must be taught by the holy church by the apostles! Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Lk 24:27 Acts 2:42 Acts 8, eph 4:5 Jude 1:3 thee faith not read scripture and make you’re own faith!

example: of the word of God not in the Bible alone!

Lk 3:2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.
Or
1 cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

these are divine revelation!
Inspired by the Holy Spirit!
And the word of God!

why do some only accept them after they are written down?

they are divine revelation and the inspired word of God when they were received, and when they were taught to the people, and when they were written down! Why only accept them in the written form or “Bible alone”???

Where does Christ or scripture say that all the divinely reveled truths are in scripture?
Where does Christ say what is and what is not scripture?

without the church and the teaching authority of the apostles you can not know what is and what is not scripture

 

[theefaith]

From the Bible alone please give me a list of the Ten Commandments?

 

[amadeus]

From the Bible alone please give me a list of the Ten Commandments?

Ex 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
Ex 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Ex 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Ex 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Ex 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Ex 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Ex 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Ex 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Ex 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Ex 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Ex 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Ex 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Ex 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Ex 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's

 

[theefaith]

Ex 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,
Ex 20:2 I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
Ex 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Ex 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Ex 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Ex 20:6 And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
Ex 20:7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
Ex 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Ex 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Ex 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Ex 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Ex 20:12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.
Ex 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Ex 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Ex 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Ex 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Ex 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's

Myra and there are other verses that say there are ten
But where does the Bible say what is the 1st commandment? Or the second?
They were put in certain order later and like chapters and verses there order is part of scripture

 

[amadeus]

Myra and there are other verses that say there are ten
But where does the Bible say what is the 1st commandment? Or the second?
They were put in certain order later and like chapters and verses there order is part of scripture

What do you mean by "Myra"?

 

[amadeus]

Myra and there are other verses that say there are ten
But where does the Bible say what is the 1st commandment? Or the second?
They were put in certain order later and like chapters and verses there order is part of scripture

This is what Jesus says:

"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" Matt 22:36-40

 

[theefaith]

What do you mean by "Myra"?

thats iPhone spell check belch

 

[theefaith]

This is what Jesus says:

"Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets" Matt 22:36-40

I was referring to the Ten Commandments

the two are deut. 6:5

 

[amadeus]

thats iPhone spell check belch

OK..

 

[amadeus]

I was referring to the Ten Commandments

the two are deut. 6:5

So what is your question then? I quoted what people call the ten commandments from scripture as you asked.

 

[theefaith]

So what is your question then? I quoted what people call the ten commandments from scripture as you asked.

I know that’s the content

but where does it say where the first ends and the second begins
Or second ends and the third begins etc.

 

[amadeus]

I know that’s the content

but where does it say where the first ends and the second begins
Or second ends and the third begins etc.

Why ask me? I did not write them initially and I did not define or divide them subsequently.

Does your question in any way relate to Jesus?

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Rev 22:13

 

[theefaith]

Why ask me? I did not write them initially and I did not define or divide them subsequently.

Does your question in any way relate to Jesus?

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Rev 22:13

I’m just asking anyone

there are no defined Ten Commandments
The order like chapter and verses came later and are not part of scripture

context is also not scripture

 

[amadeus]

I’m just asking anyone

there are no defined Ten Commandments
The order like chapter and verses came later and are not part of scripture

And this is important to us for what reason?

context is also not scripture

What if the written scripture is not alone the Word of God?

 

[amigo de christo]

And this is important to us for what reason?


What if the written scripture is not alone the Word of God?

He is trying to get you to trust in men . His reasoning is gone my friend . Its gone . He is a slave to the CC now .
I have loved thee faith and have done what i could to help him . All i can do now is pray for him .

 

[amadeus]

He is trying to get you to trust in men . His reasoning is gone my friend . Its gone . He is a slave to the CC now .
I have loved thee faith and have done what i could to help him . All i can do now is pray for him .

Until God tells me like He told Samuel to stop mourning over a person how can I stop? I speak when spoken to... by God that is!

 

[theefaith]

Until God tells me like He told Samuel to stop mourning over a person how can I stop? I speak when spoken to... by God that is!

Christ says to trust men

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!

scripture says to obey and submit


Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

God always establishes order in obedience to hierarchical authority of fathers! Heb 13:17

 

[theefaith]

Until God tells me like He told Samuel to stop mourning over a person how can I stop? I speak when spoken to... by God that is!

example: of the word of God not in the Bible alone!

Lk 3:2 Annas and Caiaphas being the high priests, the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness.
Or
1 cor 11:23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread:

these are divine revelation!
Inspired by the Holy Spirit!
And the word of God!

why do some only accept them after they are written down?

they are divine revelation and the inspired word of God when they were received, and when they were taught to the people, and when they were written down! Why only accept them in the written form or “Bible alone”???

Where does Christ or scripture say that all the divinely reveled truths are in scripture?
Where does Christ say what is and what is not scripture?

 

[theefaith]

Have you ever read the faith story of Susana dan 13?

 

[amadeus]

Christ says to trust men

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

I hear you, but sometimes that direct connection within me redirects for any answer. Perhaps you cannot hear me now, but God does! We do need to have those "ears to hear" about which Jesus speaks.

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Good verse that one! Who did God send? Who is able to hear the ones that He has sent? His sheep!

"How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!" Rom 10:14-15

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!

scripture says to obey and submit

My difficulty, at least as far as you are concerned is that I responded to another authority many decades ago, which is higher than any authority of which you speak. Consider the call here:

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev 18:4

Who is the "her"? I will make no presumptions here nor make accusations that would not be edifying, but my goal lies now before me and I have been heading toward it since 1976. The "her" remains behind me and for it me to look back would taking the way of Lot's wife or of the dog returned to his own vomit.

Hebrews 13:17
Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Who are they who have the rule over us to whom we are to submit? Be careful not presume that no one else could be right in their direction toward God:

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." I Cor 11:3

Even the five ministries as per Eph 4:11 are not to rule over us, but rather to teach and help us attaing to perfection. Our submission is to Christ whose head is God. Those ministers are not to be get squeezed somewhere in between so as to have some kind of imagined [from where I am sitting] authority...

God always establishes order in obedience to hierarchical authority of fathers! Heb 13:17

Yes, God has an order, but be careful about the sound you are hearing, for are a whole lot of uncertain sounds about us.

God shows us the Way to go, if and when we are paying attention to His voice. His sheep will know His voice. He calls them by name. It will not be the voices of any stranger. I do not know the voice of any priests or other hierarchical positioned persons within the formal Catholic Church nor within your church, if that is different.

"But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep
To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.
And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.
And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers." John 10:2-5

Our shepherd now is Jesus, the Head of the Body. he is the one I hear and who knows my name. He is not stranger to me.