Scriptures that trinitarians Don't Want You to Know About - #5

[BroRando]

No, this said they saw God, not an angel.

Not too sure about your boom bam whatever, just the same,

Exodus 24:9-11 KJV
9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11) And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

So again, Who did they see?

Much love!

"No Man has Seen God at Any time" (John 1:18) The truth never changes...


Angels are (gods) in nature..... or you can say the essence of God being a Spirit. Case and point...

• God is a Spirit. (John 4:24)
• Who, although he was existing in God’s form, (Philippians 2:6)
• Are they not ALL spirits for holy service, (Hebrews 1:14)

Jesus is the angel that took on the form of a man. So, too, the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but was glorified by the One who said to him: “You are my son; today I have become your father.” (Hebrews 5:5)

 

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Exposing your false doctrine is simple. I'll just quote my Lord and Savior. Modalists deny that angels even exist.

• God is a Spirit (john 4:24)

OK then, for you, God is a spirit, spirits are angels, you worship angels. Well I don't.

Who is talking about modalism? Or are you trying to distract from the real point?

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

OK then, for you, God is a spirit, spirits are angels, you worship angels. Well I don't.

Who is talking about modalism? Or are you trying to distract from the real point?

Much love!

Exposed... you think God is an angel...

 

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Exposed... you think God is an angel...

There's another non-argument. Vain nonsense.

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

There's another non-argument. Vain nonsense.

Much love!

Non-argument. Yes. Vain nonsense. Not in the least. Competent and true. You think you are the one denying the truth but it's the other way around. The truth is denying you...

Angels are (gods) in nature..... or you can say the essence of God being a Spirit. Case and point...

• God is a Spirit. (John 4:24)
• Who, although he was existing in God’s form, (Philippians 2:6)
• Are they not ALL spirits for holy service, (Hebrews 1:14)

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Jesus is the angel that took on the form of a man. So, too, the Christ did not glorify himself by becoming a high priest, but was glorified by the One who said to him: “You are my son; today I have become your father.” (Hebrews 5:5)

 

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Non-argument. Yes. Vain nonsense. Not in the least. Competent and true.

Give me a break!



The best you can come up with is to claim I think that God is an angel??

Much love!

 

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Angels are (gods) in nature..... or you can say the essence of God being a Spirit. Case and point...

• God is a Spirit. (John 4:24)
• Who, although he was existing in God’s form, (Philippians 2:6)
• Are they not ALL spirits for holy service, (Hebrews 1:14)

Exodus 24:9-11 KJV
9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11) And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

So again, Who did they see?

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

Exodus 24:9-11 KJV
9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11) And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

So again, Who did they see?

Much love!

God is Not an angel..... (Exodus 3:2) The Angel of Jehovah Appeared to them!

 

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God is Not an angel..... (Exodus 3:2) The Angel of Jehovah Appeared to them!

OF course God is not an angel!

Exodus 24:9-11 KJV
9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11) And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

So again, Who did they see? They saw God. Who did they see? Not an angel, they saw God. Who did they see?

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

OF course God is not an angel!

Exodus 24:9-11 KJV
9) Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
10) And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.
11) And upon the nobles of the children of Israel he laid not his hand: also they saw God, and did eat and drink.

So again, Who did they see? They saw God. Who did they see? Not an angel, they saw God. Who did they see?

Much love!

Jehovah's Angel. The same angel that appears throughout the Book of Exodus is at (Exodus 3:2) The Angel of Jehovah Appeared to them! Don't you know that angels are Messengers? And that they are 'gods'. "Are they not ALL spirits for holy service," (Hebrews 1:14)

"the sons of the true God began to notice that the daughters of men were beautiful. So they began taking as wives all whom they chose." (Genesis 6:2)

Angels are also called 'sons'. If the angels are 'sons' of the true God, then what does that make Jesus? "But these have been written down so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and because of believing, you may have life by means of his name." (John 20:31)

"Now at the end of these days he has spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things." (Hebrews 1:2)

 

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Don't you know that angels are Messengers?

We can begin this part of the conversation. Angel means messenger, and a messenger can be a celestial being such as a cherubim, or other order of celestial being. God Himself can bring an message, and be referred to as an Angel, the Messenger of YHWH. Men are also referred to as angels.

So we need to be clear, and not blur the lines, as some prefer to do. Make it sloppy, to allow false equivalencies.

Context tells us which we are reading about.

But in referring to the created order of beings we commonly call angels, Jesus is not an angel, and is higher than the angels. God specifically said things to Jesus that He did NOT say to angels. Angels were created servant spirits, Jesus "took the form of a servant", and is not a "created servant spirit". An angel did not die for your sins. You are not saved being baptised into an angel.

Jesus Himself actually created ALL the angels, every last one of them. He did not create Himself.

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

We can begin this part of the conversation. Angel means messenger, and a messenger can be a celestial being such as a cherubim, or other order of celestial being. God Himself can bring an message, and be referred to as an Angel, the Messenger of YHWH. Men are also referred to as angels.

So we need to be clear, and not blur the lines, as some prefer to do. Make it sloppy, to allow false equivalencies.

Context tells us which we are reading about.

But in referring to the created order of beings we commonly call angels, Jesus is not an angel, and is higher than the angels. God specifically said things to Jesus that He did NOT say to angels. Angels were created servant spirits, Jesus "took the form of a servant", and is not a "created servant spirit". An angel did not die for your sins. You are not saved being baptised into an angel.

Jesus Himself actually created ALL the angels, every last one of them. He did not create Himself.

Much love!

Angels are (gods) in nature..... or you can say the essence of God being a Spirit. Case and point...

• God is a Spirit. (John 4:24)
• Who, although he was existing in God’s form, (Philippians 2:6)
• Are they not ALL spirits for holy service, (Hebrews 1:14)

Jesus was Begotten by His Father and everything else came through his Only Begotten Son. (John 1:3) Jesus was Begotten by the One who already Existed. Jehovah, who is called the true God in (Jeremiah 10:10). Jesus also calls his Father, the only true God in (John 17:3) Not to mention in response to Mary Magdalene, Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

Jesus came into existence "to be" which is the actually meaning of eimi.
HELPS Word-studies 1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

That is why he is called, "Firstborn of All Creation" (Colossians 1:15) and then (Colossians 1:16-17) came about.

 

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Jesus came into existence "to be" which is the actually meaning of eimi.

Either you are ignorant, or you are being misleading. "Eimi" is not a word about coming into existance.

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

Either you are ignorant, or you are being misleading. "Eimi" is not a word about coming into existance.

Much love!

Jesus is the I am is he not? When he told the Jews that he existed before Abraham was, he was telling the truth. Of course, all the angels existed before Abraham.

◄ 1510. eimi ►
Strong's Concordance
eimi: I exist, I am
Original Word: εἰμί
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: eimi
Phonetic Spelling: (i-mee')
Definition: I exist, I am
Usage: I am, exist.

HELPS Word-studies
1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

HELPS Word-studies 1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

 

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Angels are (gods) in nature..... or you can say the essence of God being a Spirit. Case and point...

False equivalance.

The Blue Candies are M&M's therefore, all M&M's are blue. That's not good logic. But we repeat ourselves.

I've noticed that. You post the same arguments over and over without seeming regard to their being refuted by the Scriptures.

Or in this case, the logic is faulty, yet you continue to repeat this as if it were meaningful. Whether or not Jesus is a created angel,

• God is a Spirit. (John 4:24)

• Who, although he was existing in God’s form, (Philippians 2:6)

• Are they not ALL spirits for holy service, (Hebrews 1:14)

Yes, God is a Spirit. Yes, Jesus was in the form of God. No, God is not a being created for serving.

Faulty logic.

No, not all spirits are beings created for serving. God is Himself a Spirit, and He did not create Himself as servant messenger. All that was made was made through Jesus, so, He likewise is not a created servant spirit.

He was already in the form of God, and He took on Himself the form of a servant.

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

False equivalance.

The Blue Candies are M&M's therefore, all M&M's are blue. That's not good logic. But we repeat ourselves.

I've noticed that. You post the same arguments over and over without seeming regard to their being refuted by the Scriptures.

Or in this case, the logic is faulty, yet you continue to repeat this as if it were meaningful. Whether or not Jesus is a created angel,



Yes, God is a Spirit. Yes, Jesus was in the form of God. No, God is not a being created for serving.

Faulty logic.

No, not all spirits are beings created for serving. God is Himself a Spirit, and He did not create Himself as servant messenger. All that was made was made through Jesus, so, He likewise is not a created servant spirit.

He was already in the form of God, and He took on Himself the form of a servant.

Much love!

Scriptures... 'Boy"

 

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Jesus is the I am is he not? When he told the Jews that he xisted before Abraham was, he was telling the truth. Of course, all the angels existed before Abraham.

You just changed it.

ego eimi is, I am, I exist. Not, I come into existence. You are deflecting.

The fact is, you've misrepresented ego eimi. And you need to remember, yes, Jesus is I AM, and when Jesus said this to the Pharisees what did He say? Before Abraham was, I AM. Not, I was. I AM. Only Eternal God can say I AM 2000 years ago. Only the Eternal God, Who lives in eternity.

Deflecting instead of responses betray weak arguments and lack of understaning, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

 

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Scriptures... 'Boy"

What does that mean? Does it mean you are getting angry? Frustrated? What?

Much love!

 

[BroRando]

You just changed it.

ego eimi is, I am, I exist. Not, I come into existence. You are deflecting.

The fact is, you've misrepresented ego eimi. And you need to remember, yes, Jesus is I AM, and when Jesus said this to the Pharisees what did He say? Before Abraham was, I AM. Not, I was. I AM. Only Eternal God can say I AM 2000 years ago. Only the Eternal God, Who lives in eternity.

Deflecting instead of responses betray weak arguments and lack of understaning, or so it seems to me.

Much love!

Just proving you to be false.... "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the chosen ones." Mark 13:22)

◄ 1510. eimi ►
Strong's Concordance
eimi: I exist, I am
Original Word: εἰμί
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: eimi
Phonetic Spelling: (i-mee')
Definition: I exist, I am
Usage: I am, exist.

HELPS Word-studies
1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

Boom... Bam... Satan is a Sham...

 

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HELPS Word-studies
1510 eimí (the basic Greek verb which expresses being, i.e. "to be")

Again . . . to exist, not to come into existence.

Jesus created all that was created, and was not Himself created.

Just proving you to be false.... "For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will perform signs and wonders to lead astray, if possible, the chosen ones." Mark 13:22)

Maybe time for a break?



Much love!