The problem with the thousand years?

[Brakelite]

The 1000 years, the millennium, is framed by two bookends, events which cannot be missed or confused. Two resurrections.
KJV Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Truth7t7]

The 1000 years, the millennium, is framed by two bookends, events which cannot be missed or confused. Two resurrections.
KJV Revelation 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death/Resurrection) has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

 

[Brakelite]

There is one time of resurrection for all, this takes place on the (Last Day) at the Second Coming of Jesus Christ

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death/Resurrection) has no power.

1.) (First) Resurrection To Life
2.) (Second) Resurrection To Damnation, The Second Death

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

It is so annoying that such as yourself can wholly ignore someones post, resubmit their own theory, casting aside, and not even acknowledging the scriptures which contradict the theory.
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones, and sitting on those thrones were the ones who had been given the right to judge. I also saw the souls of the people who had their heads cut off because they had told about Jesus and preached God's message. They were the same ones who had not worshiped the beast or the idol, and they had refused to let its mark be put on their foreheads or hands. They will come to life and rule with Christ for 1,000 years.

5-6These people are the first to be raised to life, and they are especially blessed and holy. The second death+ has no power over them. They will be priests for God and Christ and will rule with them for 1,000 years.

No other dead people were raised to life until 1,000 years later.
CEB
The above contemporary English version is perfectly in harmony with the KJV and shows precisely the two bookends. There are two resurrections indeed, but they're 1000 years apart.

 

[Truth7t7]

It is so annoying that such as yourself can wholly ignore someones post, resubmit their own theory, casting aside, and not even acknowledging the scriptures which contradict the theory.
Revelation 20:4 I saw thrones, and sitting on those thrones were the ones who had been given the right to judge. I also saw the souls of the people who had their heads cut off because they had told about Jesus and preached God's message. They were the same ones who had not worshiped the beast or the idol, and they had refused to let its mark be put on their foreheads or hands. They will come to life and rule with Christ for 1,000 years.

5-6These people are the first to be raised to life, and they are especially blessed and holy. The second death+ has no power over them. They will be priests for God and Christ and will rule with them for 1,000 years.

No other dead people were raised to life until 1,000 years later.
CEB
The above contemporary English version is perfectly in harmony with the KJV and shows precisely the two bookends. There are two resurrections indeed, but they're 1000 years apart.

You haven't posted scripture that shows the resurrection of "All" dosen't take place at the second coming (last day)

As you have been clearly shown, there is one time of resurrection, this will take place on the last day at the second coming

(All That Are In The Graves Shall Hear His Voice And Come Forth)

The (First) resurrection to life, the second resurrection to damnation (Second Death)

 

[Zao is life]

You run about as if your opinion and interpretation is gospel truth, calling others liars

It's your opinion and belief,stop the personal attacks on others that you disagree with, calling others liars following g and repeating lies is your opinion,and that I disagree with

It's you who is in error, and that's my opinion, and I haven't called you a liar or that your repeating lies, "stop the personal attacks"

I believe that the teaching that Satan is bound is a lie.

 

[Zao is life]

You haven't posted scripture that shows the resurrection of "All" dosen't take place at the second coming (last day)

As you have been clearly shown, there is one time of resurrection, this will take place on the last day at the second coming

(All That Are In The Graves Shall Hear His Voice And Come Forth)

The (First) resurrection to life, the second resurrection to damnation (Second Death)

You haven't posted scripture showing Satan to be bound since the time of the cross. Nor have you shown scripture showing that he is bound in terms of gathering the nations to battle. Revelation 16 and 17 show Satan gathering the nations to battle against the Lamb just before He ( Christ) returns and defeats the beast who is Satan's agent. Satan is then bound, to be released again one more time. The Word of God has Satan bound after the defeat of the same beast that derives its seat, its power, and great authority from Satan.

It's the Revelation of Jesus Christ. He has had the last word and the final say on the matter. You can believe your own opinions if you like but it does not change anything because God's Word is His Word.

 

[Truth7t7]

You haven't posted scripture showing Satan to be bound since the time of the cross. Nor have you shown scripture showing that he is bound in terms of gathering the nations to battle. Revelation 16 and 17 show Satan gathering the nations to battle against the Lamb just before He ( Christ) returns and defeats the beast who is Satan's agent. Satan is then bound, to be released again one more time. The Word of God has Satan bound after the defeat of the same beast that derives its seat, its power, and great authority from Satan.

It's the Revelation of Jesus Christ. He has had the last word and the final say on the matter. You can believe your own opinions if you like but it does not change anything because God's Word is His Word.

You have been clearly shown the word (Thousand) in Revelation 20:1-7 represents (Uncertain Affinity) not a literal 1,000 years on this earth

You have been clearly shown satan is bound from deceiving the nations to battle, he will be loosed to do so at the end of the tribulation, to gather the nations to Armageddon

You have a right to your opinion, that I believe and opinionate as being in error

Stop the personal attacks in calling other posters liars in repeating lies

That's your opinion, and I disagree with it, and I'm not calling you a liar or repeating lies

 

[Truth7t7]

I believe that the teaching that Satan is bound is a lie.

I believe your disregard of the fact that satan is currently bound from deceiving the nations to battle is error, and I didnt call your error a lie or you a liar, its oversight in error.

You deny that the word (Thousand) means (uncertain affinity) as shown by (Strongs) this is error, I haven't called you a liar or repeating lies as you have done to others

Stop the personal attacks on a difference of opinion, you have a right to disagree, but calling others liars and repeating lies, your not the final authority, it's your "Opinion" and I believe it's in error, we will disagree

 

[Zao is life]

You have been clearly shown the word (Thousand) in Revelation 20:1-7 represents (Uncertain Affinity) not a literal 1,000 years on this earth

You have been clearly shown satan is bound from deceiving the nations to battle, he will be loosed to do so at the end of the tribulation, to gather the nations to Armageddon

You have a right to your opinion, that I believe and opinionate as being in error

Stop the personal attacks in calling other posters liars in repeating lies

That's your opinion, and I disagree with it, and I'm not calling you a liar or repeating lies

@Truth7t7 No, brother. Strong's says it means a thousand, or thousand. You don't even understand what it's talking about when it says the word is "of uncertain affinity".

The exact same word is used in these scriptures:

2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 11
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 12
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Revelation 14
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Your ignorance regarding the fact - F A C T - that the dictionary definition in the Strong's dictionary has the word meaning exactly what you say it does not mean makes me feel almost sorry for you.

If you cannot even read a dictionary without reading a meaning into it that is the opposite of what the dictionary says, then it's absolutely no wonder that you do the same with the scriptures.

 

[Zao is life]

I believe your disregard of the fact that satan is currently bound from deceiving the nations to battle is error, and I didnt call your error a lie or you a liar, its oversight in error.

You deny that the word (Thousand) means (uncertain affinity) as shown by (Strongs) this is error, I haven't called you a liar or repeating lies as you have done to others

Stop the personal attacks on a difference of opinion, you have a right to disagree, but calling others liars and repeating lies, your not the final authority, it's your "Opinion" and I believe it's in error, we will disagree

I believe that the teaching that Satan is bound is a lie. It's not a personal attack on you. You're choosing to see it that way.

Stop with the personal attacks claiming I'm saying something that I'm not saying.

If you falsely accuse me one more time of calling you a liar by saying I believe that the teaching that Satan is bound is a lie in the Biblical sense of the meaning of a lie, then you are a liar.

 

[Zao is life]

You misrepresent my claim, I post satan isnt bound from general evil in the world presently, hes bound from deceiving the nations to battle, why do you misrepresent my claim below in bold red?

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

"Only bound in terms of this", "Only bound in terms of that" = "sort of bound", no matter how you spin it. The devil is either bound or he is not, there's no in-between. If a king has a kingdom which belongs to the king and the king has all authority and power to do as he pleases in his kingdom, but nevertheless has an adversary in his kingdom deceiving people and causing havoc, then it means that the king is allowing it until the king either:

(a) Binds his adversary and locks him in a dungeon or prison; or
(b) Destroys his adversary and anyone who joined the armies of the adversary.

"Only bound in terms of this", "Only bound in terms of that" = "sort of bound", and it's absolutely, totally illogical and only gets dreamed up by those who need to make scripture comply with their beliefs regarding the millennium.

Was Satan bound from deceiving Eve? Was he bound from deceiving the world between the fall of Adam and the flood? Was he bound from deceiving between the flood and the crucifixion of Christ? Why is it that the New Testament teaches that Satan is in no way, shape or form bound now any more than he was always restricted before the time of Christ, yet you claim it's somehow different? Why is it that you believe that though Satan was able to beguile in order to deceive the church in the garden (Eve is a type of the church) even while Adam and Eve were still spiritually alive and led by Christ and the Spirit of God, yet he is unable to now?

 

[Truth7t7]

@Truth7t7 No, brother. Strong's says it means a thousand, or thousand. You don't even understand what it's talking about when it says the word is "of uncertain affinity".

The exact same word isused in these scriptures:

2 Peter 3
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 11
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Revelation 12
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Revelation 14
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Your ignorance regarding the fact - F A C T - that the dictionary definition in the Strong's dictionary has the word meaning exactly what you say it does not mean makes me feel almost sorry for you.

If you cannot even read a dictionary without reading a meaning into it that is the opposite of what the dictionary says, then it's absolutely no wonder that you do the same with the scriptures.

Your In Denial Of The Factual Truth Below

(Plural Of Uncertain Affinity)

Thousand = Uncertain Affinity

This dosent represent a literal thousand years on this earth (Fact)

The Greek word "Chilioi" was used in 2 Peter 3:8 and in Revelation 20:1-7

The definition is (Uncertain Affinity) not a literal thousand years on this earth as many claim

Strong’s Definitions
χίλιοι chílioi, khil'-ee-oy; plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:—thousand.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 11x
The KJV translates Strong's G5507 in the following manner: thousand (11x).

 

[Truth7t7]

"Only bound in terms of this", "Only bound in terms of that" = "sort of bound", no matter how you spin it. The devil is either bound or he is not, there's no in-between. If a king has a kingdom which belongs to the king and the king has all authority and power to do as he pleases in his kingdom, but nevertheless has an adversary in his kingdom deceiving people and causing havoc, then it means that the king is allowing it until the king either:

(a) Binds his adversary and locks him in a dungeon or prison; or
(b) Destroys his adversary and anyone who joined the armies of the adversary.

"Only bound in terms of this", "Only bound in terms of that" = "sort of bound", and it's absolutely, totally illogical and only gets dreamed up by those who need to make scripture comply with their beliefs regarding the millennium.

Was Satan bound from deceiving Eve? Was he bound from deceiving the world between the fall of Adam and the flood? Was he bound from deceiving between the flood and the crucifixion of Christ? Why is it that the New Testament teaches that Satan is in no way, shape or form bound now any more than he was always restricted before the time of Christ, yet you claim it's somehow different? Why is it that you believe that though Satan was able to beguile in order to deceive the church in the garden (Eve is a type of the church) even while Adam and Eve were still spiritually alive and led by Christ and the Spirit of God, yet he is unable to now?

The scripture before your eyes interprets (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3

Revelation 20:7-8 Satan is loosed, and goes out to (Deceive The Nations) to gather them to battle, before your eyes the interpretation is given

Before your eyes, explained very clear in 4th grade reading comprehension, and your in denial of this factual truth

You move in distraction looking towards general deception of satan presently as invalidation, as you move in defiance of the interpretation before your eyes, (Deceive The Nations) Is To Gather The Nations To Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Zao is life]

Your In Denial Of The Factual Truth Below

(Plural Of Uncertain Affinity)

Thousand = Uncertain Affinity

This dosent represent a literal thousand years on this earth (Fact)

The Greek word "Chilioi" was used in 2 Peter 3:8 and in Revelation 20:1-7

The definition is (Uncertain Affinity) not a literal thousand years on this earth as many claim

Strong’s Definitions
χίλιοι chílioi, khil'-ee-oy; plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:—thousand.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 11x
The KJV translates Strong's G5507 in the following manner: thousand (11x).

Never mind. You're obviously not one to see a white wall (i.e one white wall, not white walls) even when the dictionary tells you that thousand means a thousand (not thousands).

You ignore the "a" and the singular word "thousand" every time you come here to prove that you're practicing literary eieseges even with a dictionary!!

Now I understand why you do the same with scripture.

 

[Brakelite]

You haven't posted scripture that shows the resurrection of "All" dosen't take place at the second coming (last day)

As you have been clearly shown, there is one time of resurrection, this will take place on the last day at the second coming

(All That Are In The Graves Shall Hear His Voice And Come Forth)

The (First) resurrection to life, the second resurrection to damnation (Second Death)

I'm not debating scripture, I'm debating your theory. Jesus certainly did say all that are in their graves shall hear His voice. But He didn't say when they will hear that voice... nor did He say all shall hear His voice on the last day. That's your assumption. You need to visit all scripture, not just those that support your preconceived opinions. Revelation tells us that the wicked are not called... Hear His voice.. until the end of the 1000 years. The ones called to life at the second coming... The last day...(before the millennium) are the ones who rule and reign over the 1000 years.

 

[Zao is life]

The scripture before your eyes interprets (Deceive The Nations) in Revelation 20:3

Revelation 20:7-8 Satan is loosed, and goes out to (Deceive The Nations) to gather them to battle, before your eyes the interpretation is given

Before your eyes, explained very clear in 4th grade reading comprehension, and your in denial of this factual truth

You move in distraction looking towards general deception of satan presently as invalidation, as you move in defiance of the interpretation before your eyes, (Deceive The Nations) Is To Gather The Nations To Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Satan gathering the nations to battle happens clearly before your very eyes at the close of this Age @Truth7t7 (i.e "the millennium" according to you) in chapters 16, 17 & 19 and then again after his re-release when this (last) time, at the close of the (real) millennium, there is no longer any beast for Christ to destroy because it has already been in the LoF for A thousand years.

You're ignoring the scripture so that you can force scripture to comply with your belief regarding the millennium.

I'm not even going to tell you which verses in Revelation 16, 17 and 19 talk about Satan's beast gathering against Christ. Nor am I going to tell you where the Revelation tells US that the gathering of the nations again against the camp of the saints does not result in the defeat of the beast because the beast had already been in the LoF for a thousand years. Satan is thrown into the LoF after the millennium, where the beast and the false prophet (already) are.

 

[Brakelite]

But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.

Please harmonize this... Your own quote from scripture... With your theory that all are raised at the same time. The rest of the dead suggests others separate from the rest who were raised not at the end of the 1000 years.

 

[Zao is life]

You need to visit all scripture, not just those that support your preconceived opinions.

Spot-on. But this poor fellow @Truth7t7 cannot even read a dictionary definition of a Greek word when the dictionary defines it as meaning A thousand, and then repeating "thousand" (in the singular), without reading his interpretation into it.

It's useless trying to debate with someone who does that not only with scripture, but even with with a dictionary when the dictionary definition does not comply with his beliefs.

 

[Marty fox]

I admit I was being very straight-forward regarding what I think of the belief that the millennium is already here and Satan is bound (no matter whether you mean "sort of" or "in some manner"). I believe it's a doctrinal error which Biblically, is a lie - and in the case of the belief that Satan is bound, a terrible lie.

But I do not regard you as a liar. If I believe a well-known theological position that is nevertheless not true, then I'm repeating a lie. If Satan is bound and we're living in the millennium and I say he is not, I'm repeating a lie.

To me, the theology which teaches that Satan is bound (whether "sort-of" or in some manner or another) is a terrible lie (not a small lie). The devil has always been restricted by God in terms of what he has been permitted to do, but he is no more restricted since the cross than he was before the cross.

Amillennialism (and other false theologies besides) which exist in Christendom, is also proof to me of the fact that just as the apostles warned, Satan is today, and always has been, just as able to beguile Christians in order to deceive as he was able to beguile Eve (the prototype of the church) in order to deceive, even while Adam and Eve were alive spiritually and had the presence of Christ and the Holy Spirit in them, and had not yet become acquainted with evil through the experience of the practice of its lies:

Ephesians 6
10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that all of you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

But you, or @Truth7t7 or anyone else who believes a lie, is not the father of it. You're the victims, and in the process of repeating the lie, perpetuate it. Most of the world is under at least one spiritual lie begun by the father of lies. Most humans perpetuate the lies they believe, by reason of the fact that they believe it. My brother is a JW. He repeats their lies, but he's my brother and I love him and respect him regardless.

God bless you brother. I'm very grateful that you have nevertheless helped my understanding regarding Biblical apocalyptic literature far more than any Premillennialist ever has.

Okay thanks for this and your very welcome. It would just be better received if you said that you believe it to be a lie than it is a lie incase you don't fully understand the other persons position on the topic

Take care

 

[Truth7t7]

Never mind. You're obviously not one to see a white wall (i.e one white wall, not white walls) even when the dictionary tells you that thousand means a thousand (not thousands).

You ignore the "a" and the singular word "thousand" every time you come here to prove that you're practicing literary eieseges even with a dictionary!!

Now I understand why you do the same with scripture.

Strong’s Definitions
χίλιοι chílioi, khil'-ee-oy; plural of uncertain affinity; a thousand:—thousand.

KJV Translation Count — Total: 11x
The KJV translates Strong's G5507 in the following manner: thousand (11x).