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Hello you and welcome,

You should know that this video is long and may be hard to listen to. If anyone does make it through hope you find and learn something new at least that you may never have considered in your life before possibly.

Please consider this description below before viewing.

The first thing you should be aware of is that you are going to be listening to scripture from Exodus 20 and Leviticus 26.

It is always possible for me to be right, and to be wrong. There may have been mistakes during the production of this video. You will learn about Exodus 20, and Leviticus 26. There is nothing greater than trusting and having faith in the Son of God our Lord Jesus Christ, who came from above as the Word of God, with God with-in by the spirit of God with-in. You are made right by and through faith on the Son of God because only He could ever fulfill all of this law and put an end to it. Though the Law is most certainly holy and righteous and there is nothing wrong with it but at one point or another you and me have broken the law. It so great to know that even though you and me could never hold onto this law, Jesus Himself has done for all people one time; in being obedient and dying on the cross as a sacrifice to and for the payment of all of mankind.

Therefore you are justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of his righteousness and that is why you can have relationship with God our Father through the Lord Jesus Christ and that Jesus makes a person right with God because of believing on His death, and his resurrection.

Galatians 2:21 “I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

Romans 3:22 We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are. 23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.

25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.

Romans 4:5 But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners.

John 10:10 “The thief comes only to steal, and kill, and destroy; I (Jesus) came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly."​

Thank you for reading and considering,
Matthew G.
 
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He's wrong in his very first point.

Are not ALL Christians brought out of bondage when they are first saved?

Therefore, it is not speaking only to the physical people who were physically taken out of the land of Egypt. It is also speaking to ALL those who would come later and be brought out of the darkness and into the Light of Jesus Christ in a spiritual way. The TRUE Israel (Elect) are a spiritual race - they worship God in spirit and in Truth. They were saved spiritually from the spiritual land of Egypt, a land of the bondage that is sin.

All of those who would be saved from the trappings (bondage) of this fallen world were the intended audience of this dramatic message, given by God Himself in a fashion that is wholly undeniable. The scene depicted in the Bible of the giving of the Commandments on the mountain top is literally one of the most dramatic scenes recorded in all of the Bible.

What a waste of show for God if it was only intended for those immediately present that weren't even all that interested and would be dead relatively soon.
 
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Hello GenRev2,

You are right, GENREV2, am glad you commented though the video made it it clear that is Jesus Christ who makes us right with God (Romans 3:22-26). By faith, only faith (Ephesians 2:8). You are right about God desires for us to know that Jesus Christ delivers us from the bondage of sin (Romans 6:18;Romans 7:6)even though even still none of the bible itself was completely written to us in the sense of that you or me are from that time period. That is the main thing to understand is that. You were not there the day God talked to the Children of Israel, the Nation of Israel and neither was I (Genesis 12:1-2) (The promise of working through the chosen nation God choose to work through).

So How is the 10 commandments written to me if I was not part of that group in which God delivered them from the bondage or house of slavery out of Eygpt?

When it comes down to these commandments (Exodus 22) they are perfect and holy (God Himself can not break these laws nor did Jesus Christ when he was born into the world); and only the spirit of Christ through a person would be able to ever hold onto these laws by living in the spirit (The Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled all of the laws (Mark 9:1-13) for because the spirit itself does not sin (1 John 3:9 - Though we do sometimes still sin but living by the spirit and abiding in the vine of Christ (John 15:1-10) in the spirit (2 Corinthians 3:17, Romans 15:13, John 14:26, Romans 5:5) you will not sin (Galatians 5:16) because it is Christ living through you (Galatians 2:20).

1 Corinthians 13:4-8. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.
  • 1 Corinthians 16:14. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.

  • Mark 12:30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

  • John 6:28-29 :
  • 28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”

  • 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
Believe and love for God above all, and love neighbor as yourself, are the commandments. (Matthew 22:34-40).

Thank you for commenting,
With love in Christ,
Matthew G.
 
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Hello you and welcome,

You should know that this video is long and may be hard to listen to. If anyone does make it through hope you find and learn something new at least that you may never have considered in your life before possibly.

Please consider this description below before viewing.

The first thing you should be aware of is that you are going to be listening to scripture from Exodus 20 and Leviticus 26.

It is always possible for me to be right, and to be wrong. There may have been mistakes during the production of this video. You will learn about Exodus 20, and Leviticus 26. There is nothing greater than trusting and having faith in the Son of God our Lord Jesus Christ, who came from above as the Word of God, with God with-in by the spirit of God with-in. You are made right by and through faith on the Son of God because only He could ever fulfill all of this law and put an end to it. Though the Law is most certainly holy and righteous and there is nothing wrong with it but at one point or another you and me have broken the law. It so great to know that even though you and me could never hold onto this law, Jesus Himself has done for all people one time; in being obedient and dying on the cross as a sacrifice to and for the payment of all of mankind.

Therefore you are justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of his righteousness and that is why you can have relationship with God our Father through the Lord Jesus Christ and that Jesus makes a person right with God because of believing on His death, and his resurrection.

Galatians 2:21 “I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

Romans 3:22 We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are. 23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.

25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.

Romans 4:5 But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners.

John 10:10 “The thief comes only to steal, and kill, and destroy; I (Jesus) came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly."​

Thank you for reading and considering,
Matthew G.


Depends on who "us" is sir. The Laws given from Jehovah including the 10 words penned by His Own Hand, were given exclusively to His people, who went on to accept them and became His nation. The surrounding nations were not given His laws, however they could become proselytes and serve Him as their God, accepting the commandments same as the offspring of Jacob.
 
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So How is the 10 commandments written to me if I was not part of that group in which God delivered them from the bondage or house of slavery out of Eygpt?

Who delievered the ten commandments?
Whose finger wrote/carved the letters on the stone tablets?

Why does Jesussay," If you love me you will obey My Comands?"


Our obedience to the ten commandments does not save us but it does do two other things.
It allows us to show that we do love Jesus.

It enables us to stand out from most of our colleagues, neighbours etc.
 

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Here is a warning from Jesus through Matthew about the end of days.

" ... because iniquity (lawlessness - disobedience to the 10 Commandments) shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. But he that shall endure (continue in the Commandments) unto the end, the same shall be saved."
Matthew 24:12-13

This verse proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that Jesus expected His people to be following His Commandments (the 10 Commandments) to the end of time.

Probably why He wrote them IN STONE.

People who believe today that we are not to obey the Commandments any longer, or that they were not written to us, only believe that one of them is no longer binding. The other NINE they still believe we are to obey.

How does THAT make a lick of sense? It doesn't.

Those who long to be right with God seek for ways to obey Him in every way. Those who do not share that soul-sentiment, seek for ways to live THEIR OWN way and obey Him less.

It really is that simple.

Those people are only endeavoring to avoid hell with a bare minimum effort plan. They ask, "What is the least that I can do for God and still get to heaven?"
 
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Were the 10 Commandments Written to us? Exodus 20 / Leviticus 26
OP ^

I would say off-hand no.
The term "us" is broad, but will presume you mean Converted...to which my answer would be no.
 
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The 10 commandments have always been in effect.
All men are responsible to keep them perfectly.
 

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Context is important, at least in my opinion.

Thank you each for your time and comment.
 

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The Commandments Jesus gave were these two.

1 Corinthians 13:4-8. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love.
  • 1 Corinthians 16:14. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.

  • Mark 12:30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.”

  • John 6:28-29 :
  • 28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
  • 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
 
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Hello you and welcome,

You should know that this video is long and may be hard to listen to. If anyone does make it through hope you find and learn something new at least that you may never have considered in your life before possibly.

Please consider this description below before viewing.

The first thing you should be aware of is that you are going to be listening to scripture from Exodus 20 and Leviticus 26.

It is always possible for me to be right, and to be wrong. There may have been mistakes during the production of this video. You will learn about Exodus 20, and Leviticus 26. There is nothing greater than trusting and having faith in the Son of God our Lord Jesus Christ, who came from above as the Word of God, with God with-in by the spirit of God with-in. You are made right by and through faith on the Son of God because only He could ever fulfill all of this law and put an end to it. Though the Law is most certainly holy and righteous and there is nothing wrong with it but at one point or another you and me have broken the law. It so great to know that even though you and me could never hold onto this law, Jesus Himself has done for all people one time; in being obedient and dying on the cross as a sacrifice to and for the payment of all of mankind.

Therefore you are justified by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ because of his righteousness and that is why you can have relationship with God our Father through the Lord Jesus Christ and that Jesus makes a person right with God because of believing on His death, and his resurrection.

Galatians 2:21 “I do not nullify the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.”

Romans 3:22 We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are. 23 For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard. 24 Yet God, in his grace, freely makes us right in his sight. He did this through Christ Jesus when he freed us from the penalty for our sins.

25 For God presented Jesus as the sacrifice for sin. People are made right with God when they believe that Jesus sacrificed his life, shedding his blood. This sacrifice shows that God was being fair when he held back and did not punish those who sinned in times past, 26 for he was looking ahead and including them in what he would do in this present time. God did this to demonstrate his righteousness, for he himself is fair and just, and he makes sinners right in his sight when they believe in Jesus.

Romans 4:5 But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners.

John 10:10 “The thief comes only to steal, and kill, and destroy; I (Jesus) came that they might have life, and might have it abundantly."​

Thank you for reading and considering,
Matthew G.


Well I didn't listen to the video but I know the law was given to Israel and not to the gentiles and was commanded to Israel and not the Gentiles.

In the OT the gentiles were without hope and without God in the world. The law was given as a school master to drive Israel to jesus. It can also drive agentile to Jesus by showing that they are sinners.

But the lawe has been fulfilled and thus ended as the tool God designed it to be. We do not obey the law of commandments (which minister death) but we obey the law of Christ.
 

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Hello GEN2REV,

If you would consider all that is said here; hopefully you may consider something you never did.

Am going to show you my exegesis (I believe it is called) on these two verses here found in Exodus 20.

If you read this carefully and not to fast; let me know what you think or consider about any of this information, okay?

These are the first 2 verses in Exodus 20

20 `And God speaketh all these words, saying,

2 I [am] Jehovah thy God, who hath brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of a house of servants.​

Do you see how it says God speaks ~ Saying I am Jehovah (Yahweh) (the LORD) - thy God, who has brought (them) out of the land of Egypt.

This is a real physical happening of God pulling out Abram out of a nation of Pagans and was going to use Abram to bring forth a nation if Abram listened and obeyed; which Abram did so from the heart having believed God (Hebrews 11:17-19). It is also a picture and a type for us today of how in our lives now today when you are born again with Christ Jesus in you, all things become new because of now living by the spirit and having a relationship with God with communication through prayer and reading the word of God. (Colossians 1:13) God can pull anyone out of the dominion of Darkness and into the Kingdom of His Beloved Son.

They were bring forth out of their bondage of having lived among the Egyptian lands now being brought forth out of that land according to the second verse. That is why it is possible to say that the Laws that were given; were being spoken to those then who were listening and hearing it. When the LORD (Yahweh) (Jehovah) ~ Had brought out forth the Nation that came out of Egypt which was going to be caused by Abraham which would in result be the nation of Israel, and the children of Israel which would end up bringing forth Jesus, and Jesus would pay for the sins of all of the world and be able to fulfill this perfect and holy law that no person could fulfill but He Himself. Jesus did that on behalf of every single human being alive today. Jesus to sets us free from the bondage of sin and death as well, by and through faith (Romans 8:2)

God is good, is love, is spirit, and a good Father who gives good gifts,
With love in Christ,
Matthew G.
 

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A plaque of the 10 Commandments was on display in almost every courthouse and public building across America all the way up until 2005 when modernists in power succeeded in removing them.

Why do you suppose we would have a plaque of totally inane rules, that were given to an obscure race of people thousands of years ago in a far away country, framed and displayed proudly on public building walls all over the United States for over a century?

Probably because they were totally inconsequential.

Now, if they WERE inconsequential, and merely a novel decoration, why then do you suppose they would be ORDERED to be taken down just 16 years ago?

Hmmm ... quite the head-scratcher!
 

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Hello GEN2REV,

If you would consider all that is said here; hopefully you may consider something you never did.

Am going to show you my exegesis (I believe it is called) on these two verses here found in Exodus 20.

If you read this carefully and not to fast; let me know what you think or consider about any of this information, okay?

These are the first 2 verses in Exodus 20

20 `And God speaketh all these words, saying,

2 I [am] Jehovah thy God, who hath brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of a house of servants.​

Do you see how it says God speaks ~ Saying I am Jehovah (Yahweh) (the LORD) - thy God, who has brought (them) out of the land of Egypt.

This is a real physical happening of God pulling out Abram out of a nation of Pagans and was going to use Abram to bring forth a nation if Abram listened and obeyed; which Abram did so from the heart having believed God (Hebrews 11:17-19). It is also a picture and a type for us today of how in our lives now today when you are born again with Christ Jesus in you, all things become new because of now living by the spirit and having a relationship with God with communication through prayer and reading the word of God. (Colossians 1:13) God can pull anyone out of the dominion of Darkness and into the Kingdom of His Beloved Son.

They were bring forth out of their bondage of having lived among the Egyptian lands now being brought forth out of that land according to the second verse. That is why it is possible to say that the Laws that were given; were being spoken to those then who were listening and hearing it. When the LORD (Yahweh) (Jehovah) ~ Had brought out forth the Nation that came out of Egypt which was going to be caused by Abraham which would in result be the nation of Israel, and the children of Israel which would end up bringing forth Jesus, and Jesus would pay for the sins of all of the world and be able to fulfill this perfect and holy law that no person could fulfill but He Himself. Jesus did that on behalf of every single human being alive today. Jesus to sets us free from the bondage of sin and death as well, by and through faith (Romans 8:2)

God is good, is love, is spirit, and a good Father who gives good gifts,
With love in Christ,
Matthew G.

So are you equating one who becomes part of the body of Christ and delivered out of darkness as the same as the children of Israel being led out of Egypt?

That is not exegesis but eisegesis.
 
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Hello GEN2REV,

If you would consider all that is said here; hopefully you may consider something you never did.

Am going to show you my exegesis (I believe it is called) on these two verses here found in Exodus 20.

If you read this carefully and not to fast; let me know what you think or consider about any of this information, okay?

These are the first 2 verses in Exodus 20

20 `And God speaketh all these words, saying,

2 I [am] Jehovah thy God, who hath brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of a house of servants.​

Do you see how it says God speaks ~ Saying I am Jehovah (Yahweh) (the LORD) - thy God, who has brought (them) out of the land of Egypt.

This is a real physical happening of God pulling out Abram out of a nation of Pagans and was going to use Abram to bring forth a nation if Abram listened and obeyed; which Abram did so from the heart having believed God (Hebrews 11:17-19). It is also a picture and a type for us today of how in our lives now today when you are born again with Christ Jesus in you, all things become new because of now living by the spirit and having a relationship with God with communication through prayer and reading the word of God. (Colossians 1:13) God can pull anyone out of the dominion of Darkness and into the Kingdom of His Beloved Son.

They were bring forth out of their bondage of having lived among the Egyptian lands now being brought forth out of that land according to the second verse. That is why it is possible to say that the Laws that were given; were being spoken to those then who were listening and hearing it. When the LORD (Yahweh) (Jehovah) ~ Had brought out forth the Nation that came out of Egypt which was going to be caused by Abraham which would in result be the nation of Israel, and the children of Israel which would end up bringing forth Jesus, and Jesus would pay for the sins of all of the world and be able to fulfill this perfect and holy law that no person could fulfill but He Himself. Jesus did that on behalf of every single human being alive today. Jesus to sets us free from the bondage of sin and death as well, by and through faith (Romans 8:2)

God is good, is love, is spirit, and a good Father who gives good gifts,
With love in Christ,
Matthew G.

#1. I have already addressed the point you are making.
#2. This is nothing new that you are presenting. This debate is age-old. You haven't come up with any new way of looking at this concept.

There is nothing new under the sun, only restatements of old truths.
Ecclesiastes 1:9

If God intended to give the people that were physically at the bottom of the mountain something that was only for them, knowing that they were not too interested and they would all, naturally, die soon, He would not have included the event in great detail in His Word (The Bible).

The Bible was written for all believers to come, through the end of time, and not one word, or letter, of it was intended only for a private selection of people.

2 Peter 1:20
 
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Were the 10 Commandments Written to us?
Absolutely. The Ten Commandments are God's standard of righteousness for all men. But all human beings have broken them. Therefore God has made a provision to save sinners by His grace. However, after people are saved, they are subject to the Law of Christ (or the Law of Love), which is also rooted in the Ten Commandments.

ROMANS 13: THE LAW OF LOVE AND THE TEN COMMANDMENTS
8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the Law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the Law.

As we can see here, every commandment is covered under the Law of Love. While Paul does not mention the first four commandments here (which pertain to the love of God), Christ already told us that the greatest commandment is to love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength. That produces love for your "neighbour" (any person) and that results in obedience to the Ten Commandments.
 

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So are you equating one who becomes part of the body of Christ and delivered out of darkness as the same as the children of Israel being led out of Egypt?

That is not exegesis but eisegesis.

Ronald, would you (if you have a moment) please teach me the difference between exegesis and eisegesis?

Going over it again you can also see how it relates to what Jesus would do for the whole world because of God loving the whole world He sent His Son; to rescue all from the effects of sin by paying for it on the cross for all people. That if a person would be desiring to come out (be freed) they would start looking towards God, and eventually will come across Jesus through the experience of life. Especially if they are encouraged to read and to learn and grow in knowledge about God I believe.
 

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#1. I have already addressed the point you are making.
#2. This is nothing new that you are presenting. This debate is age-old. You haven't come up with any new way of looking at this concept.

There is nothing new under the sun, only restatements of old truths.
Ecclesiastes 1:9

If God intended to give the people that were physically at the bottom of the mountain something that was only for them, knowing that they were not too interested and they would all, naturally, die soon, He would not have included the event in great detail in His Word (The Bible).

The Bible was written for all believers to come through the end of time, and not one word, or letter, of it was intended only for a private selection of people.

2 Peter 1:20

Am not here to debate. Glad you understood the points that were made and thank you for your comment. Not really sure what else to say other than this.