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Ahh a man after my wn heart who enjoys golf. Once upon a time about 15 years ago I played 5-7 days a week weather permitting. I got bit hard and began playing when I was 40. I was always a real good athlete and very competitive so as you know a person can never master the game its always something we work at to improve. I use to fish allot as well but I set fishing aside for golf. Now I fish once and a while and the same with golf. I still enjoy both but do not get out much these days to enjoy them.
This is a good example of the difference you were looking for between struggling with sin and purposely sinning in unbelief.
I think the point for this discussion is you had to come back in order to be saved. Yes, God pursued you, and so was 'with you' that way, but I think it wrong to think that meant you were saved during that time. Had you died in your unbelief (if that was actually the condition you were in) you would have died in an unsaved state and would not be saved when Jesus returns.
It's when you don't care about and reject the forgiveness of sin you have received and you sin willfully, without thought, without struggle. The dangerous part about it being that you somehow think you still have that forgiveness (or ever had it), even though your willful sinning is the evidence you have rejected it.
I'm sorry, BB. I remember reading this but it seems I somehow got distracted and never answered you.
They do. They may have their reasons, but they surely do. You pointed it out yourself when you spoke of the Parable of the Sower in another post.
John begs to differ with. He says not to be deceived by people about this.
Are you suggesting then that the people whom the Father had given to Jesus Christ to be raised at the last day unto eternal life, who were foreknown, called, justified, and glorified, who understood and believed the gospel, who believes God and have faith in Jesus Christ, and have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them, are:
I guess it doesn't really matter so much. But I found it interesting. They say he had quite a beer habit, as well. I guess I'm just gossiping. Whatever the case, there's no denying his immense contribution to the cause of reform.
It looks like you're putting a little twist on the question now. I'll have to go back and compare what you're saying here with what you said before. The passage I posted should be sufficient all by itself to show you that their is no difference in God's exhortation to 'do good' to either the saved or the unsaved. I will revisit your previous post later.
I've observed that perhaps people use what he said (and did?) while he was a Catholic to discredit him as a Protestant.I guess it doesn't really matter so much. But I found it interesting. They say he had quite a beer habit, as well. I guess I'm just gossiping. Whatever the case, there's no denying his immense contribution to the cause of reform.
Oh, and he hated Jews and said they should be killed. Was that before or after his conversion from being a Catholic to being a Protester? I'm curious.I guess it doesn't really matter so much. But I found it interesting. They say he had quite a beer habit, as well. I guess I'm just gossiping. Whatever the case, there's no denying his immense contribution to the cause of reform.
Did you leave him in regard to trusting him for daily life and provision, or left him in regard to holding firmly to the gospel about the forgiveness of your sin? That is the important question here. You can be unfaithful to Jesus in your saved state, but you can not deny Him outright in regard to salvation itself and still be in the saved state you are rejecting. 2 Timothy 2:12-13.
