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"The Miracle Of Love"

How many sorrows
Do you try to hide
In a world of illusion
That's covering your mind?
I'll show you something good
Oh I'll show you something good.
When you open your mind
You'll discover the sign
That there's something
You're longing to find...

The miracle of love
Will take away your pain
When the miracle of love
Comes your way again.

Cruel is the night
That covers up your fears.
Tender is the one
That wipes away your tears.
There must be a bitter breeze
To make you sting so viciously -
They say the greatest coward
Can hurt the most ferociously.
But I'll show you something good.
Oh I'll show you something good.
If you open your heart
You can make a new start
When your crumbling world falls apart.

[Chorus repeats...]

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Ziggy

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I slept outside the back of a Church last night, it was quiet and peaceful. Then I moved on around 3ish walking out from the carpark to the main street. I then stopped still, seeing what looked like some statue on the sidewalk on the other side of the road. It took me about half a minute to realise some woman was sitting there on the grass scrolling through her mobile phone. I wondered why she was sitting outside a vacant block of land at 3 in the morning.
Probably looking for someone to talk to..
lot of lonely people in the the world.
Even when your surrounded by the hustle and bustle..
it's easy to feel alone.
Truth is, we're never truly alone..
if you believe...

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Probably looking for someone to talk to..
lot of lonely people in the the world.
Even when your surrounded by the hustle and bustle..
it's easy to feel alone.
Truth is, we're never truly alone..
if you believe...

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You're talking on behalf of yourself. It's obvious that you are, because all you have for company are your cat's and Jesus. While I am typing this post, a Christian believer from one of the churches nearby to the library I am just breezed in making enough noise to be noticeable, then sits down at a table and starts mumbling a prayer. (I'm the only one here using the Wi-Fi) I call these types "Belief keeper's" Those who interfere with the transmission of knowledge building. To keep people from learning and overcoming their lack of information.

(After thought) See the best way to control people is to keep them in the dark (Knowing as little as possible) They sell you a bunch of beliefs that they tell you is real knowledge. Then you end up becoming dependent on the belief makers of the world to run your life.
 
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You're talking on behalf of yourself. It's obvious that you are, because all you have for company are your cat's and Jesus.
I don't know if I mentioned I was married twice and have a daughter. Worked with many people in my lifetime. And spend most my time on this forum, where ther are many members and chatter is neverending.
Plus my cats. And my Lord.

Many times through my life even though I have been surrounded by the hustle and bustle of everyday life, I found myself lonely.
Neither of my husbands were spiritually minded. They were however work-a-holics. And making more money was always the name of the game.
I don't really care about money. Sure we need money to survive on, but I never liked shopping. I didn't have to have the best car or the best clothes.
I was just as happy eating at a hotdog stand as I was a fancy restaurant.
I was more concerned about my marriage (s) , but the marriage (s) weren't concerned about me.
Lots of times I would just go for a walk by myself... thinking. (I do that sometimes) :)
So I know what it's like to be lonely even when your surrounded.

See the best way to control people is to keep them in the dark (Knowing as little as possible)

What do you want to know?
I have nothing to hide.. nothing.
I'm an open book. All you have to do is search my name. You should get a list of posts I've written for the year or so that I've been here.
Or you could follow me and see what I post in the many different forums I frequent here.
I really enjoy the bible study forum and the political and current events forum.
I should spend more time in the prayer and fellowship though.
Where are we now??
(scrolling up)
General Discussions.
I post here now and then.

There's pieces of me written all over this forum. I don't try to control people.
People will think what they think. I am who I am.

Maybe I have misunderstood your meaning. If I have, would you please clarify.

:)
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Then you end up becoming dependent on the belief makers of the world to run your life.
You get to choose whom you want to listen to.
You can choose your own reality.
You can choose to believe what the world wants you to believe
or:
I wrote a long post, but then I found this..


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You get to choose whom you want to listen to.
You can choose your own reality.
You can choose to believe what the world wants you to believe
or:
I wrote a long post, but then I found this..


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@Ziggy:

Great ref. in the Casting Crowns track to an excerpt from the passage 1 Corinthians 1.27-31:

"27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

31 That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord."

:)
 
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I don't know if I mentioned I was married twice and have a daughter. Worked with many people in my lifetime. And spend most my time on this forum, where ther are many members and chatter is neverending.
Plus my cats. And my Lord.

Many times through my life even though I have been surrounded by the hustle and bustle of everyday life, I found myself lonely.
Neither of my husbands were spiritually minded. They were however work-a-holics. And making more money was always the name of the game.
I don't really care about money. Sure we need money to survive on, but I never liked shopping. I didn't have to have the best car or the best clothes.
I was just as happy eating at a hotdog stand as I was a fancy restaurant.
I was more concerned about my marriage (s) , but the marriage (s) weren't concerned about me.
Lots of times I would just go for a walk by myself... thinking. (I do that sometimes) :)
So I know what it's like to be lonely even when your surrounded.



What do you want to know?
I have nothing to hide.. nothing.
I'm an open book. All you have to do is search my name. You should get a list of posts I've written for the year or so that I've been here.
Or you could follow me and see what I post in the many different forums I frequent here.
I really enjoy the bible study forum and the political and current events forum.
I should spend more time in the prayer and fellowship though.
Where are we now??
(scrolling up)
General Discussions.
I post here now and then.

There's pieces of me written all over this forum. I don't try to control people.
People will think what they think. I am who I am.

Maybe I have misunderstood your meaning. If I have, would you please clarify.

:)
Hugs
I have had so many annoyances today outside, kinda over the people in Queensland being sneaky saboteurs. They're adept at passive aggressive game playing, but I have the joker card and I'm going wild.

Sometimes.
 
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Ziggy

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sounds like your running into my dad's girlfriend..
just saying..

I just refuse to play.. if possible.
 

farouk

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"The Miracle Of Love"

How many sorrows
Do you try to hide
In a world of illusion
That's covering your mind?
I'll show you something good
Oh I'll show you something good.
When you open your mind
You'll discover the sign
That there's something
You're longing to find...

The miracle of love
Will take away your pain
When the miracle of love
Comes your way again.

Cruel is the night
That covers up your fears.
Tender is the one
That wipes away your tears.
There must be a bitter breeze
To make you sting so viciously -
They say the greatest coward
Can hurt the most ferociously.
But I'll show you something good.
Oh I'll show you something good.
If you open your heart
You can make a new start
When your crumbling world falls apart.

[Chorus repeats...]

iu
@Ziggy So did you write this thoughtful poem/song?
 
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Fist full of dip.
Fist full of chips.
Fist full of hips.
Fist full of clips.
Fist full of nails.
Fist full of ail.
Fist full of ale.
Fist full of flail.
Fist full of …
 

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What I don't understand is why are people crying about spending "our" money?
It's not our money, none of it is.
The Federal reserve prints the money, the government borrows the money and injects it into the economy.
People go to work and are given a loan, it is a loan, it's called a Federal Reserve Note. A Note is a debt.
So you get a loan from the government for your labour and then you take that loan and spend it on goods that the government provides.
Because everything has a patent. And patents are owned by the government.
So you take your loan buy their products with interest to pay back the debt that the government borrowed.
Once in a while the Federal Reserve Bank has half a heart and lowers the interest rate.
But then because the interest rates are low, the government borrows more, if your lucky they increase your loan, in which you spend more on the products they have patented with more interest.
Now if you take that loan and invest it into the market, you get to incur interest on that loan. At the same time the government taxes you on that income. Sometimes you can defer the taxes by a 401K or some annuity, but when you take it out.. Boom, they hit you again.

It's not our money..
NONE of it is.
It's just a game they play allowing you to think you own something you don't.

You go to work, you recieve a loan from the company, which received that loan from the bank in the form of capital.
You take that loan and you buy food. You pay taxes on the food in an indirect way, usually it's the packaging and the shipping and storage and production all built into the cost of the food. Unless you grow it yourself. Then you have to buy the seeds that are taxed. or the land you grow it on is taxed.
So you buy the food. Does it end there? Hell no.
They charge you for water and sewer to fluch away the consumed food. And there's taxes on those services.

Nothing is free, and nothing is owned.
When are people going to get a clue???

How can we disentangle ourselves from this system?

Remove the government. They have no claim on the land.
Joe grows the wheat, Mike has the mill, susie raises eggs, Tony raises cows, Betty has a bakery.
You all work together and make stone soup.

Too many people too proud to eat stone soup.
I say, the workman is worthy of his meat..
I didn't really say that, the Lord did.

Gracious me.. so simple a child can understand
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Jack owns the mine. Poppy owns the steel mill, Michael owns the manufacturing equipment that Joe made.
Bishop owns the oil rig, Philip owns the tire shop. and they all swap goods and poof you have a car.

Then you take the car and trade it for stone soup and everybody eats and is happy.

You will own EVERYTHING and be happy.

F.U KLAUS SHWABB!

just saying..
 

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What I don't understand is why are people crying about spending "our" money?
It's not our money, none of it is.
The Federal reserve prints the money, the government borrows the money and injects it into the economy.
People go to work and are given a loan, it is a loan, it's called a Federal Reserve Note. A Note is a debt.
So you get a loan from the government for your labour and then you take that loan and spend it on goods that the government provides.
Because everything has a patent. And patents are owned by the government.
So you take your loan buy their products with interest to pay back the debt that the government borrowed.
Once in a while the Federal Reserve Bank has half a heart and lowers the interest rate.
But then because the interest rates are low, the government borrows more, if your lucky they increase your loan, in which you spend more on the products they have patented with more interest.
Now if you take that loan and invest it into the market, you get to incur interest on that loan. At the same time the government taxes you on that income. Sometimes you can defer the taxes by a 401K or some annuity, but when you take it out.. Boom, they hit you again.

It's not our money..
NONE of it is.
It's just a game they play allowing you to think you own something you don't.

You go to work, you recieve a loan from the company, which received that loan from the bank in the form of capital.
You take that loan and you buy food. You pay taxes on the food in an indirect way, usually it's the packaging and the shipping and storage and production all built into the cost of the food. Unless you grow it yourself. Then you have to buy the seeds that are taxed. or the land you grow it on is taxed.
So you buy the food. Does it end there? Hell no.
They charge you for water and sewer to fluch away the consumed food. And there's taxes on those services.

Nothing is free, and nothing is owned.
When are people going to get a clue???

How can we disentangle ourselves from this system?

Remove the government. They have no claim on the land.
Joe grows the wheat, Mike has the mill, susie raises eggs, Tony raises cows, Betty has a bakery.
You all work together and make stone soup.

Too many people too proud to eat stone soup.
I say, the workman is worthy of his meat..
I didn't really say that, the Lord did.

Gracious me.. so simple a child can understand
Hugs

Jack owns the mine. Poppy owns the steel mill, Michael owns the manufacturing equipment that Joe made.
Bishop owns the oil rig, Philip owns the tire shop. and they all swap goods and poof you have a car.

Then you take the car and trade it for stone soup and everybody eats and is happy.

You will own EVERYTHING and be happy.

F.U KLAUS SHWABB!

just saying..
Weird. I was just walking the streets shouting out the same thing, that no one person owns anything in the end. Because we didn't create matter and energy, or any atom or particle, or everything really. So why do they sell everything to each other when nature itself did not explicitly give them orders to do so.
 
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Ziggy

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Weird. I was just walking the streets shouting out the same thing, that no one person owns anything in the end. Because we didn't create matter and energy, or any atom or particle, or everything really. So why do they sell everything to each other when nature itself did not explicitly give them orders to do so.
Biblically speaking, people were to bring their crops and their animals together into one place.
A tenth of what they had harvested or raised during times of special feasts at certain times of the year.
But if the distance was too far or too heavy to take, they could tranfer those goods for money and buy what they needed when they reached their destination.
This is all fine and good until the money changers started making profits and charging people more.

The LOVE of MONEY is the root of all evil.
In the beginning it wasn't so, but greed crept in.
And it just grew and grew and grew.

It needs to be knocked down and get back to the original ptinciple.
The reason for coming together was to be thankful for what good providence they had recieved and to share with those who may have had a bad crop year or maybe a disease in their flocks, or maybe they was sick.

I'm not Jewish. I don't understand fully the feasts days and sabbaths in the old testament.
But I believe that this was the intention.
Covetousness.. wanting something that doesn't belong to you, is the original curse in the garden of eden.
Just had to have that fruit off the forbidden tree.

Today everybody wants everything that everybody else owns.

TAX THE RICH!!

I say, go make your own riches and leave other peoples money alone.
But that's just me.
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