Typical switch and bait.
You failed to address my questions, just tried to switch away.
Doctrines of Demons???
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Typical switch and bait.
You failed to address my questions, just tried to switch away.
Stumpmaster
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Not so sure how to feel; but God makes you right with himself by faith in the Son of God Jesus. That is just a reality. Thankfully. 
Always remember that. Though we are dead to sin in reality, we must also reckon ourselves dead to sin and not let anyone talk us out of it with doctrines of demons. Right? And none of this imputed righteousness from the Old Testament given to Abraham while we keep on sinning either. Jesus causes us to be truly righteous. And as we grow in the fruit of the Spirit they fully mature to perfection. That is holiness. Revelation 22:11 shows the two type of Christians that will be taken to heaven. Righteous or holy. Don't let anyone steal your crown! There are only a very few on these forums that are NOT filled with doctrines of demons. Chose holiness always, for without holiness no man shall see God. Heb. 12:14
Do you understand the gospel or not? Do you understand what Jesus came to do?
It is sin that separated us from God. And Jesus came to take away that sin nature so that we can partake of the divine nature of our Father. 2 Peter 1:2-4. When we are born again, God puts His seed in us, and we are now children of God with His likeness showing through us. 1 John 3:9. Those of the devil act like their father.
You can remember the gospel like this.
The Son of God became the Son of Man, so that the sons of man may become sons of God. John 8:32-36
Your first statement startled me as it was so off topic. But it seems to be the most important to you. Sorry, I honestly didn't read any further.
Perhaps you could answer my second questions which was "And why was it off topic?"
When did the conflicting doctrines of men begin if not almost immediately after Adam and Eve were put outside of the garden? People would move farther and farther away from what God had for them initially with a little twist here or there.
Often we may have read about what we call pagan religions with beliefs which sometimes remind us of or compare to some of the events or rituals found with almost all, if not all, of what Christian labeled groups accept or believe.
All through the OT God periodically sent leaders, prophets, judges and kings to shake people up stirring them to move again back toward Him. But... in the OT it was never bringing it really back to what had been even before the first described disobedience.
Then Jesus came to us to make it possible to not only to return to what had been present in Eden before the disobedience, but even to improve on it. Those first two parents were never able to eat of the other Tree, the Tree of Life, but Jesus brought back the possibility of doing that as well.
Even with this new and better possibility, men continued in the NT and beyond to do what they had done throughout the OT. They would choose to go their own ways instead of the Way to God.
It happened when there was only one known organized church group and has continued regularly over the centuries up to the current date.
You speak of 30,000 Protestant groups or denominations, but there were almost certainly people doing the same kind of things from the times when the NT was being written up until Luther posted his theses on the door. People have always been beasts and have continued in their beastly ways even after Jesus brought Life to men.
As in the OT, even after Jesus God also sent men to shake people up and to remind them once more what was available. What was Joan of Arc? What was Francis of Assisi? What were many others who were really anointed by God to again open people's to a better Way?
Where does the Way to the Tree of Life lie? Where does God's interpretation lie? It is to be found in Him! Jesus was not sent for naught!
Where is the Kingdom of God?
"Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Luke 17:21
The "they" from where I stand is all of those 30,000 plus and the Catholic groups as well.
Who is not saying to others "Lo here" so as to get them come in to where they are in order to what? What is their purpose? What is God's purpose? How often do they coincide?
Is that kingdom of God going to be within us if we hearken to those voices and their "Lo here, and Lo there"? As you have asked, Which one? Where is the Body of Christ? What is it? I won't give you an answer. You and others here, be they Catholic, Protestant, Mormon, SDA, JW, Pentecostal or Other, will do that as if by arguing with some one , anyone might prove which if any is God's Way!
What a mess this place is? I am not speaking only of this forum, although it is an example of the more wide spread mess, it it not?
Help us dear Lord!
Stumpmaster
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Stop with the empty words. Do you want to be like Christ and enter into heaven, or swim with the demons in their hot tub. You better take your salvation seriously. Because you are slipping big time.
The Eucharist is NOT a doctrine of demons. That is what we are trying to identify in this OP. Doctrines that demons have twisted scriptures so that we will believe them and go to hell.
JohnPaul
Soldier of Jehovah and Christ
I renounce Satan and all his false promises yet I still sin and at times am a hypocrite but yet I know these things and ask God for forgiveness, I am bound by my Earthly desires and sometimes give into them, so no I am not sinless but sin, and I beg for forgiveness and try not to sin and try my best to help others in need, and constantly repent, while we are bound to this Earth we are human and not flawless, so those who say they do not sin, are sinning by saying that, because we are all human and all we can do is beg for the mercy of God and repent and try not to sin, I know I am not perfect, and beg for mercy and forgiveness from God Almighty and his only begotten son our Lord Savior Jesus Christ and repent for my past and present sins.
You're in a pickle. For one thing, you will always sin UNTIL you receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Then you will not be in the old carnal nature, but in the Spirit. And as you walk in the Spirit you will abide in Christ and He in you. Until then, get rid of believing in doctrines of demons and pray to God for the Truth, for the Truth shall set you free. John 8:32-36
Post #146 You said:
Your first statement startled me as it was so off topic. But it seems to be the most important to you. Sorry, I honestly didn't read any further.
Post #147 I asked:
Which first statement are you referring to?
And why was it off topic?
Post #148 You said:
This one.
and quoted my post "But which of say 200 interpretations of "This is My Body" is God's interpretation?
Yours?
Post #149. I said
Perhaps you could answer my second questions which was "And why was it off topic?"
I'm still waiting for an answer.
We are born again and receive the Holy Spirit in Baptism (with water).
Suggesting that happens by "Baptism of the Holy Spirit" (a phrase that does not appear in Scripture) is a doctrine of demons.
I was baptized THREE TIMES before actually repenting and becoming born again. THEN God spoke to me and told me, "now be baptized in water."
You say the Baptism of the Holy Spirit does not appear in Scripture? Is the book called the Acts of the Apostles scripture?
4 And being assembled together with them, He commanded them not to depart from Jerusalem, but to wait for the Promise of the Father, “which,” He said, “you have heard from Me; 5 for John truly baptized with water, but you shall be baptized with the Holy Spirit not many days from now.” 6 Therefore, when they had come together, they asked Him, saying, “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” 7 And He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority. 8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
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