we do not have revival because we do not see the need for it.

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I preach no religoin . ITS JESUSOSITY . just learn the one in the bible is all i can say .
It rather odd that peter , and paul and others were sticklers to sound doctrine yet todays geneartion are sticklers to what FEELS and what SEEMS right .
Yup. Praise the glorious biblical Lord Jesus.
 

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People drown in water. We don't ban it, nor do we contaminate it so people won't drink it.
We teach people to respect it. We teach people how to use it, how to swim.
And we do not try to deter others from drinking it!
 
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People drown in water. We don't ban it, nor do we contaminate it so people won't drink it.
We teach people to respect it. We teach people how to use it, how to swim.
And we do not try to deter others from drinking it!

That was random…lol.
But I like it.
 
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We are Complete in Him, But he has not completed His work in us. I Have used this analogy before... Just because you have all the parts of Car in one place does not mean they are properly assembled That you can drive the car. This is where the Church is, and where many in the Body of the church are.

You accuse me of beating the sheep, But what I am doing is encouraging them to seek more of Christ, To let Him be not just the Author of our faith but the finisher, the first step in this is to allow him to finish His work in us. That means pointing to the complacency and doctrines that are ingrained in the church that prevent this from occurring. That is what a Watchmen does... sound the alarm.....

Those with discernment will see you.
 
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marks

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Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

Would you curse your sister in front of strangers while you know for a fact it was a different girl who did that?

Pretty sure that's @marks point. Love keeps no record of wrongs, and we have no business judging those outside ourselves.
That, and to shine a light on things like this:

David H. said:

The Church is so lost in the ways of the world


Yeah. Judging others. Constantly judging others, millions of people he's never even met. Thread after thread, the Church is SO worldly! The chuch is SO wicked. SO horrible! You have to ask yourself . . . why?

Much love!
 

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mark you aint being picked on nor attacked . There is a reason i am bringing these reminders again to you .
Find the fault if there is fault . OR embrace the truth . But either way , say something so we can clear things up .
What is to clear up?

This is why I'm posting these Scriptures, to return us to a Biblical footing. There is so much assumption and judging of others, and out of context Scriptures, sometimes I think the best thing to do is to post some of the Bible. The key passages, in their context.

And yes, we would do well to embrace the truth.

Judging others based on falsehoods, or trusting Jesus and living.

Much love!
 

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That, and to shine a light on things like this:

David H. said:

The Church is so lost in the ways of the world


Yeah. Judging others. Constantly judging others, millions of people he's never even met. Thread after thread, the Church is SO worldly! The chuch is SO wicked. SO horrible! You have to ask yourself . . . why?

Much love!

well the church IS largely lost in the ways of the world. 401ks, stocks, political fights, godly ways to invest your money, believing you have to collect more than enough for the day, panic when your retirement fund takes a hit, fear of dying, etc.
 

marks

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We are Complete in Him, But he has not completed His work in us. I Have used this analogy before... Just because you have all the parts of Car in one place does not mean they are properly assembled That you can drive the car. This is where the Church is, and where many in the Body of the church are.
Yes, well, your teaching is that we are missing parts. That we lack what we need.

If you feel that way,

1. Don't assume everyone else does.

2. Make it a personal matter between you and Jesus.

3. Trust in His promises.

My suggestion? Stop assuming things about others, and stop judging others based on your assumptions. In person ministry, you can get to know people, and then, after you actually have come to know them, and are in a love relationship with them, that is the time to help with someone's growth.

Otherwise, you are just beating the sheep.

Constantly posting about how the Church is so rotten and phoney and all that, this really is self-revelatory. You have to remember I've read many of your threads, and I see the tone in which you post. The contradictions and twisting people's words.

I say . . . trust Jesus, that God has given us all we need now to live Godly lives now, and instead of tearing down, we are to be building up.

Much love!
 
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That, and to shine a light on things like this:

David H. said:

The Church is so lost in the ways of the world


Yeah. Judging others. Constantly judging others, millions of people he's never even met. Thread after thread, the Church is SO worldly! The chuch is SO wicked. SO horrible! You have to ask yourself . . . why?

So to you the church is rich and prosperous and in need of nothing? That is known as self deception.
 

marks

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That means pointing to the complacency and doctrines that are ingrained in the church that prevent this from occurring.
Maybe first . . . going to a church to see what they actually think . . . say . . . teach . . . before you declare them such?

But then I don't believe that is your reason. Again, I've read much of your stuff, and I'm not ignorant of the workings of the mind.

Much love!
 

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I say . . . trust Jesus, that God has given us all we need now to live Godly lives now, and instead of tearing down, we are to be building up.

I say it is in brokenness and repentance that the Holy Ghost can build up. Man building man up is pride and delusion. You know seeking out preachers with itching ears and smooth words.
 

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David, marks always feels attacked. You aren’t going to change that.

He wants you to speak soothing words to him that don’t make him feel attacked and he has a lot of trigger words.
 
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marks

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No, he wasn't. James isn't one of the apostles. He is possibly/probably Jesus earthly brother - which in that case means he actively rejected Christ until after the resurrection.

We have to know our Bibles before we can teach our Bibles.
His Word tells us what is true and what is not true. I love it when I see people catch these things!

Much love!
 
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I say it is in brokenness and repentance that the Holy Ghost can build up. Man building man up is pride and delusion. You know seeking out preachers with itching ears and smooth words.
That's good place to be, and I pray it is real.

Much love!
 

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David, marks always feels attacked. You aren’t going to change that.

Well it's nice that you know me so well, all the way into my heart.

This has been @David H. 's gaslighting all along, that because I point out bad behavior it means I'm personally offended. I guess you've bought into that idea too.

OK, and I suppose I'm not going to change that. I know why he does it, I'm not sure about you.

Much love!
 
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well the church IS largely lost in the ways of the world. 401ks, stocks, political fights, godly ways to invest your money, believing you have to collect more than enough for the day, panic when your retirement fund takes a hit, fear of dying, etc.
What I mean by "church" is the called out assemble of Christians, the born again. Is that what you mean? Or more like, everyone who attends a church on Sunday and calls themself "Christian"?

Much love!
 

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So to you the church is rich and prosperous and in need of nothing? That is known as self deception.
Don't put words in my mouth.

Well, go ahead! Let everyone see what you do. What kind of deception is this?

Much love!