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theefaith

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Teaching authority of the Apostles and their successors founded in the one true church by Jesus Christ!

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) holy mother church replaced Israel Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15



Matt 16:17-19

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Lk 10:16
He who hears you hears me...

John 13:20
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that receiveth whomsoever I send receiveth me; and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, so send in you. (The apostles) posses the same power mission and authority as Christ!
Peter, the apostles and their successors!

Keys of authority! And power to bind and loose! Matt 16:18 and Matt 18:18
matt 28:19 Jn 20:21-23 Isa 22:21-22
eph 2:20

Jurisdictional authority:
(Governing / administering)
Necessity of Peter and the apostles and their successors to govern the holy church.

Moral authority:
(Teaching)
Necessity of being taught by the apostles of Christ:
Two edge sword: defining truth and condemning errors.

Spiritual authority:
(Life of Grace)
Sanctifying thru the mass and Sacraments.

In Christ Matt 28-18-20 I am with you, Jn 15:5 in His grace and truth by the power of the Holy Spirit! Jn 1:16-17


Must be taught by the holy church by the apostles! Matt 28:19-20 Lk 1:4 Acts 2:42

What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?

Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!

We must be taught by Peter, the apostles, and their successors! Lk 10:16 Matt 28:19 Jn 21:17 Jn 16:13 acts 2:42

Matt 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Lk 1:4 That thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.

Acts 8:30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

Col 2:7 Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

The obedience of faith!

Rom 1:5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name.

Taught the one true faith revealed by Christ to His apostles! Eph 4:5 Jude 1:3

We are not commanded to read and make doctrine for ourselves but obey those who God puts in authority to teach the Christian Faith!
 

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No - Jesus Christ is the King of kings according to the will of the Father!!

Ps 2:6“But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain.”

Have you ever considered that the Kingdom of God is in your midst, so that you could hear from the King of kings - our Lord Jesus Christ?

Rev 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

Yes Christ is king dan 2:44 and Lk 1:32-33
But Christ ascended to heaven!
No king administers his own kingdom

they always have a prime minister who holds the keys under the king like Joseph under pharaoh
Or peter and his successors under Christ
Isa 22:21-22 Matt 16:18 jn 21:17
 

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Hello,

I am an odd one. I'm a philosophical theist. But I'd like to explore Christianity. Any recommendations for apologist vids, books, whatever, would we appreciated. Some people might say you can't come to faith in Christianity through arguments......fair enough, but I became a theist by reading philosophy so might as well try.

Thanks

Gill,

The foremost evangelical, philosophical apologist is William Lane Craig. He currently is writing a multi-volume series on philosophical systematic theology.

Professor J P Moreland is head of the department of philosophy, Biola University, CA.

Have you considered joining the Evangelical Philosophical Society?

Oz
 
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and poops have no authority, I'm sorry I meant popes.
I don't understand why you had to be so degrading with your "poops" comment" but if the Popes have no authority then who did after the last Apostle died?

Curious Mary
 

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I don't understand why you had to be so degrading with your "poops" comment" but if the Popes have no authority then who did after the last Apostle died?

Curious Mary
Sorry that was a typo . When I use my phone lots of time I have spelling mistakes .
 

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Sorry that was a typo . When I use my phone lots of time I have spelling mistakes .
Hmmmm......So you were typing on your phone and the word "poops" was a typo. You obviously immediately recognized the the "typo" and immediately corrected that typo by saying "I meant popes". Why wouldn't you just back space and correct the typo? I don't understand!

None the less.......Who has authority after the last Apostle died?
 

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Hmmmm......So you were typing on your phone and the word "poops" was a typo. You obviously immediately recognized the the "typo" and immediately corrected that typo by saying "I meant popes". Why wouldn't you just back space and correct the typo? I don't understand!

None the less.......Who has authority after the last Apostle died?
I meant popes
 

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I meant popes
OK....I can't argue with you. I am just trying to figure it out since I don't understand. Moving on....

Since you clearly believe that none of the popes have authority who did have authority over The Church after the death of the last Apostle?

Patient Mary
 

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OK....I can't argue with you. I am just trying to figure it out since I don't understand. Moving on....

Since you clearly believe that none of the popes have authority who did have authority over The Church after the death of the last Apostle?

Patient Mary
The Apostles appointed elders to rule over the church.
 

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Hello,

I am an odd one. I'm a philosophical theist. But I'd like to explore Christianity. Any recommendations for apologist vids, books, whatever, would we appreciated. Some people might say you can't come to faith in Christianity through arguments......fair enough, but I became a theist by reading philosophy so might as well try.

Thanks
What is a philosophical thiest?
 

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Hello,

I am an odd one. I'm a philosophical theist. But I'd like to explore Christianity. Any recommendations for apologist vids, books, whatever, would we appreciated. Some people might say you can't come to faith in Christianity through arguments......fair enough, but I became a theist by reading philosophy so might as well try.

Thanks

You represent a group of people in the earth who believe God entirely without doctrine, except for that which can be discerned by reason and the contemplation of natural laws o_O

Have you studied Psalm 19??? Note, I didn't say read! but have you studied psalm 19??? Forget the apologists, once Psalm 19 is understood... we can go to Romans as no one argues better than the Apostle Paul!!! So after Psalm 19 let talk about books! ;)

Up for the challenge?

F2F
 

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Only one head which is Christ!
Hi f2f,

Thanks for joining in on the conversation.

Scripture makes it clear that Christ is the head of the church. Scripture also makes it clear that He appointed Apostles and in Luke 10:16 and John 20:23 He gave them authority that he didn't give to everyone of His disciples! Did that authority die when the last Apostle died? For the record; I don't think it did!

Respectfully....Mary
 

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Hello,

I am an odd one. I'm a philosophical theist. But I'd like to explore Christianity. Any recommendations for apologist vids, books, whatever, would we appreciated. Some people might say you can't come to faith in Christianity through arguments......fair enough, but I became a theist by reading philosophy so might as well try.

Thanks

It would help if you could explain the philosophical basis by which you realized theism is the proper world view?