Church Father Justyn Martyr 100-165AD, Taught The Thousand Years Was Eternal, Not On This Earth

[Randy Kluth]

He means no more time period. There are no seconds, minutes, hours, days, nor years at the moment of the Second Coming.

That would be your opinion--not what the Scriptures actually say.

 

[Oseas]

Wow! 1000 years IS NOT EQUAL to 365,000 days IS NOT EQUAL to
8,760,000 hours IS NOT EQUAL to 525,600,000 minutes IS
NOT EQUAL to 31,536,000,000 seconds when time STILL exists?

What prevails is the Word of GOD. The Word is GOD. The Holy Spirit revealed to the Apostle Peter: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing,that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years,and a thousand years as one Day.So,7DAYS ARE 7THOUSAND YEARS ARE7DAYS

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet.3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

The current millennium is of Vengeance, it is of Judgment, the Judgment Seat of Christ, and the EVERLASTING CHASTISEMENT has already started, the punishments will never END.

Get ready

 

[Timtofly]

That would be your opinion--not what the Scriptures actually say.

Not mine. The poster you were addressing. "He" as in "that poster".

 

[Oseas]

He means no more time period. There are no seconds, minutes, hours, days, nor years at the moment of the Second Coming.

Only in the heaven of the heavens, only after the END of this current millennium, and only after Satan be cast into the lake of fire.

Now Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit for a thousand years, exactly 365.000 days, that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years be fulfilled: and after the END of this millennium he must be loosed a little season, there will be War again against Satan and then he will be cast into the lake of fire. And the heaven of the heavens will be established for all Eternity, time is not counted, no more.

 

[Naomi25]

You are the first Amil who hangs on to the original earth. Almost like a premil who accepts the earth is brand new during the millennium, but still the same "rock" as you put it. The earth is about all there is to the universe, as the firmament is only half of reality.

Well…I wouldn’t strictly categorise myself as an Amil. Maybe I was, at one point. Maybe I still share some of their understandings…but by no means all.

 

[Oseas]

A little time before Christ's return, ... Daniel 12

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time -Matthew 24:v.14 to 25- : and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

3 And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

11 - And from the time that the...the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. - 1.290 days - 2nd half of the week 70th Dan.9:v.27

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. -magnificent, glorious, portentous, wonderful, marvelous, admirable DAY 1.335-

P.S.
Isaiah 26:v.19-21
19 ... the earth shall cast out the dead.

20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.

21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.

 

[Davy]

Church Father (Justin Martyr 100-165AD) taught the 1,000 years represented the eternal kingdom in the new heaven and earth, not a literal kingdom on this earth

Those in Christ Jesus follow His Word, and not the word of men. Even good Bible scholars sometimes make mistakes. What man says should never... take precedence over The Word of God.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

Your desire isn't a reality found in scripture, this heaven and earth will pass away by fire, it will be a completely new creation

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Isaiah 65:17KJV
17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.

God's Kingdom will still be on this earth for eternity, before and after the new Earth is made. When Daniel wrote that God's kingdom will rule this earth forever once it's set up here in chapters 2 and 7, that's exactly what he meant. The only things that will have changed is that the Father Himself will be here with the New Jerusalem, the Millennium Temple won't exist, and there won't be any human beings there.

Only the Remnant Elect Jew will be saved and added to the Church, those whom God foreknew and chose, the rest of are blinded

Romans 11:5-8KJV
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

The obvious problem with your theology is that you're confusing the amount of Jews God has called in the 1st century with the total amount of Israelites that will be converted in the future. There are a multitude of OT Millennium prophecies concerning the massive amount of Israelites that will be converted in the future. God isn't done with them yet. Paul ended his thought in Rom. 11 chapter by stating God only called a few Jews back then so more Israelites can be called and converted in the distant future, which is why he told the Gentile Roman converts not to get a big head about being Christians.

 

[Truth7t7]

God's Kingdom will still be on this earth for eternity, before and after the new Earth is made. When Daniel wrote that God's kingdom will rule this earth forever once it's set up here in chapters 2 and 7, that's exactly what he meant. The only things that will have changed is that the Father Himself will be here with the New Jerusalem, the Millennium Temple won't exist, and there won't be any human beings there.
The obvious problem with your theology is that you're confusing the amount of Jews God has called in the 1st century with the total amount of Israelites that will be converted in the future. There are a multitude of OT Millennium prophecies concerning the massive amount of Israelites that will be converted in the future. God isn't done with them yet. Paul ended his thought in Rom. 11 chapter by stating God only called a few Jews back then so more Israelites can be called and converted in the distant future, which is why he told the Gentile Roman converts not to get a big head about being Christians.

Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation

This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ

(Behold, I Make All Things New)

2 Peter 3:10-13KJV
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Revelation 21:1-5KJV
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

1 Corinthians 3:13KJV
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV
7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

Malachi 3:2KJV
2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:

Psalm 46:6KJV
6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.

Psalm 50:3KJV
3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him.

Psalm 97:5KJV
5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth.

Isaiah 66:15KJV
15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

Zechariah 14:12KJV
12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.

Nahum 1:5-6KJV
5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein.
6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him.

Revelation 20:9KJV
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

[Oseas]

Revelation 11:v.15and18 ;
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
18 And the nations will be angry., and GOD's wrath is come,...

Revelation 5:v.10 - And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we will reign on the earth.

Matthew 5:v. 5 - Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.

On the other hand, out side of GOD's kingdom there will be the hell's fire, a furnace of fire. And they will shout, saying: Lord, Lord, we have prophesied in thy name; in thy name we have cast out devils; in thy name we have done many wonderful works. I never knew you that work iniquity. They will cry/wail and will gnash of teeth.