Halloween?

[dev553344]

You seeing extremism cause many have been sitting under the wrong sensual teachers and leaders .
Folks have become plugged into a religoin of humanism , not of JESUS , not of the biblical Christ
but of men . I am sure peter , paul , james , JESUS HIMSELF would seem as extremism to todays crowd .
I honestly dont mind being called extremist by this generation . Though i weep for them , still i rejoice in God for being
accused , rejected , seen as evil , seen as anti Christ by some . For sticking to the biblical pattern . You bet i will
take all names and wear them as a badge of honor , being counted worthy to suffer even the mildest form of persecution .
Counting it a blessing . THOUGH i do weep for many .

I'm not persecuting extreme ideas. I was pointing them out and now regretting it.

 

[GEN2REV]

What ARE the historical roots of dressing up and giving candy? I seriously never looked into it.

Do you have thirteen minutes?

 

[GEN2REV]

I just think most people don’t have evil in their hearts over Halloween.

Like most modern people do, you are completely ignoring the spiritual aspects of this world. Possibly unaware, but certainly not considering them.

There is a spiritual element to all things. All holidays (holy days - not necessarily holy) have a significance to the spirit realm. If you celebrate Halloween in any way, for any excuse, you are honoring, and giving power to, demons. It's just one of those things that ... is. That's how it works.

God's Ways (the ways of the spirit realm) are not our ways. They just ... are.
Isaiah 55:8-9

 

[dev553344]

Many children recanted because they were afraid. I myself sort of "recanted" ....not really, but when I went into foster care at age 14, and my father sent a letter to me via my sister at school saying he loved me and wanted me back home so we could go to church together ....I told my counselor at DHS that I wanted to go back home. He said I couldn't go back home unless I had lied about everything. I said, "I didn't lie ...just write in my files that I dropped the charges." He asked if that's really what I wanted, and I said yes. So that's what he did.... and I went home. Of course, it was just a ploy to get me back home. But you don't know the story behind why a child would report abuse and then recant. There are severe threats to those who talk.

Michael Aquino was one.of my main programmers. Of course, he was given high positions in the US military and Reagan loved him .....the cult protects their own. I have a bullet hole in the back of my house to prove it. It was put there by a local retired police officer who happens to be best buds with the county and state judges who stole my granddaughter. (And yes, they broke the law to accomplish it and placed my granddaughter into a cult family who regularly take her to places I know as programming sites.)

Do you think the local police did anything about the guy taking a shot at me? Nope! And the one officer who tried (he wrote up a police report) nearly lost his job.

All this to say ..... you're not likely to get the truth from cult controlled sources.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. I can't imagine what it would be like to be in foster care. Makes me sad to hear that. Everyone deserves a stable home as a child and also as an adult.

I was more referring to the mentally ill people's memories. Mentally ill people often hallucinate and have false memories. They even get paranoia from those memories and attack people regularly. This is why society generally has a fear of schizophrenic people and perhaps even bipolar. Not to mention the vast news stories about mentally ill people attacking others. This is something I have to deal with when I tell people that I have schizophrenia. They already have fear about me and I have to break thru that stigma. So I normally keep it to myself when in person.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

What ARE the historical roots of dressing up and giving candy? I seriously never looked into it.

Druid priests would go door to door demanding a human offering from the family in the house to be sacrificed(this was the forerunner of the tradition practiced by modern satanists and witches). If the family didn't comply, the priest would draw a hexagram on the house and return later to burn it down or commit some other heinous act against the family. It's also very possible that these priests used to dress up as ghouls to act like they were accepting the sacrifices on behalf of evil spirits(which is where the modern tradition of people going door to door for candy while dressed up in a costume originates from).

To anyone who is familiar with the Exodus account, this part of the Halloween tradition should easily register as a satanic re-enactment of the Passover. This is definitely not a matter i would treat lightly, especially because whoever participates in it is basically mocking God and the sacrifice Christ made in the process.

 

[liafailrock]

Well here we go!

it’s October!

so the subject is: Halloween!

share your thoughts on it

is it holy or satanic?

Christian or of the world?

thanks

My thoughts, it's Satanic. But that said, so are the other famously celebrated holidays. The world has 8 major ones for quarters and cross-quarters. They occur at the solstices and equinoxes and points between. For example, Halloween is the November 1 Samhein day in Celtic lore aka the new year, visitation of the dead, etc. This is between the autumnal equinox and winter Solstice. Like the Jews, the Celts started their day at Sundown so the start of November 1 was the evening of all Hallows Eve. At winter solstice was another "Yule" season, etc.

The only days the Lord designated as holidays are stated in Leviticus 23 called "feasts of the Lord" and were types and shadows of God's redemptive plan for mankind from the Passover (the cross) all the way up to the Last Great Day (Great White Throne Judgement) and at each how mankind would be saved at each. There are seven annual Sabbaths (holiday) of this nature besides the weekly Sabbath.

 

[Bob Estey]

I am one ...most of my family and relatives have survived this. My cult abusers, handlers, and programmers were themselves victims, and most of them were not even related to me.

I know over a hundred victims personally, and have heard the testimonies of hundreds more. The victims are all over the world, in most every town. Countless victims don't live to speak for themselves.

I couldn't possibly give a more exact answer. I'm not God. If it bothers you to consider these things happen, pass it up.

But you don't need to go on my word. Biblically, a Christian celebrating halloween is wrong. The Word says to avoid even the appearance of evil.

1 Thessalonians 5:22
[22]Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Jeremiah 10:2
[2]Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

1 John 2:15-17
[15]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
[16]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
[17]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

2 Corinthians 6:17-18
[17]Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
[18]And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

What do you mean by "victim"? What happened to you and the other victims?

 

[theefaith]

My thoughts, it's Satanic. But that said, so are the other famously celebrated holidays. The world has 8 major ones for quarters and cross-quarters. They occur at the solstices and equinoxes and points between. For example, Halloween is the November 1 Samhein day in Celtic lore aka the new year, visitation of the dead, etc. This is between the autumnal equinox and winter Solstice. Like the Jews, the Celts started their day at Sundown so the start of November 1 was the evening of all Hallows Eve. At winter solstice was another "Yule" season, etc.

The only days the Lord designated as holidays are stated in Leviticus 23 called "feasts of the Lord" and were types and shadows of God's redemptive plan for mankind from the Passover (the cross) all the way up to the Last Great Day (Great White Throne Judgement) and at each how mankind would be saved at each. There are seven annual Sabbaths (holiday) of this nature besides the weekly Sabbath.

what about supersuppressionism?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Im so sorry, but that production made me laugh. Maybe I need to go read about it instead.
Although, I don’t think it will bother me to know. But I could be wrong. It might wind up bothering me greatly.I just think most people don’t have evil in their hearts over Halloween.

I take it back. It bothers me greatly. I hate that you and others went through that. I don’t celebrate Halloween, never really have, but if I did, I would quit out of heartbreak over what you have gone through.
I do still like to see cute little bunnies and adorable princesses though. I can’t help it.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I do still like to see cute little bunnies and adorable princesses though. I can’t help it.

If I can find a way to get it on this mobile device, I'd like to share a writing I did back in about 2007 in the beginning of my healing journey. At that time, after more memories flooding back and being threatened by the cult, I sought a Christian/Biblical prayer counselor. She was over 2 hours away, so most of my counseling was done via email, and sometimes by phone. One day I sat to write about my day and it began to be very in-depth, internal processing, unraveling lies that trauma had taught me. When I was done, I was amazed at the ministry of the Lord (to my heart) and I titled it, "Daughter of the King: a message of His love."

 

[TLHKAJ]

What do you mean by "victim"? What happened to you and the other victims?

Brother, I have written a lot of things in this thread, and @Rita linked you another thread that is full of parts of my testimony as well as other survivor testimonies. I only ask that you be kind. My thread (referenced by Rita) is meant to be a voice for survivors, as well as educating the body of Christ to these realities in hopes that some would feel moved to pray for victims.

 

[TLHKAJ]

I take it back. It bothers me greatly. I hate that you and others went through that. I don’t celebrate Halloween, never really have, but if I did, I would quit out of heartbreak over what you have gone through.
I do still like to see cute little bunnies and adorable princesses though. I can’t help it.

I can respect that.

 

[Bob Estey]

Brother, I have written a lot of things in this thread, and @Rita linked you another thread that is full of parts of my testimony as well as other survivor testimonies. I only ask that you be kind. My thread (referenced by Rita) is meant to be a voice for survivors, as well as educating the body of Christ to these realities in hopes that some would feel moved to pray for victims.

I am too old to read lengthy passages. Don't you have something you could say in a short paragraph?

 

[TLHKAJ]

I am too old to read lengthy passages. Don't you have something you could say in a short paragraph?

Have you read my posts in this thread?
I need to cook supper. I'll try to come back to this later and see what I can do. But honestly, I can't even reach the tip of the iceberg in a short paragraph.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Also, @Bob Estey ...I would suggest just reading over the last few pages of my thread (referenced by @Rita). That may give some understanding. Back later.....

 

[Ancient]

Did Yahweh ever command to observe this day? No! Did Yeshua ever teach about or command to observe this day? No! Did the apostles in their writings ever teach or command to observe this day? No!

Give me book, chapter and verse within context in Yahweh's word where Yahweh ever commands this day to be observed.
Outside of Yahweh's word is the doctrines of men and demons. I do not care what denomination you are from as all denominations have their man made doctrines.

Do not add to Yahweh's word and do not take away from Yahweh's word. This are Yahweh's words not mine.
Yeshua Himself quoting Deut says man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of Yahweh. I don't know about you but I want to live. Only stick to what is written and within context. Not the context of a denomination or men's doctrines. It is not that hard. Stick to what is written.
Look at the fruits. The fruits of halloween are all in the flesh it is all about you, teaching kids about fulfilling the flesh i.e. candy, dressing up etc it is all about self.
Yahweh's ways of worship are ALWAYS about Him and worshipping Him, honoring Him, glorifying Him, lifting up and acknowledging His name. Not about us and what we can get, or how we look, or about our gratification. Is any thought given to Yahweh at all on this disgusting abominable day?

Shalom

 

[Truman]

Did Yahweh ever command to observe this day? No! Did Yeshua ever teach about or command to observe this day? No! Did the apostles in their writings ever teach or command to observe this day? No!

Give me book, chapter and verse within context in Yahweh's word where Yahweh ever commands this day to be observed.
Outside of Yahweh's word is the doctrines of men and demons. I do not care what denomination you are from as all denominations have their man made doctrines.

Do not add to Yahweh's word and do not take away from Yahweh's word. This are Yahweh's words not mine.
Yeshua Himself quoting Deut says man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of Yahweh. I don't know about you but I want to live. Only stick to what is written and within context. Not the context of a denomination or men's doctrines. It is not that hard. Stick to what is written.
Look at the fruits. The fruits of halloween are all in the flesh it is all about you, teaching kids about fulfilling the flesh i.e. candy, dressing up etc it is all about self.
Yahweh's ways of worship are ALWAYS about Him and worshipping Him, honoring Him, glorifying Him, lifting up and acknowledging His name. Not about us and what we can get, or how we look, or about our gratification. Is any thought given to Yahweh at all on this disgusting abominable day?

Shalom

Yeah, but once it's past, it's time to think about Santa Claus! Lol

 

[dev553344]

Did Yahweh ever command to observe this day? No! Did Yeshua ever teach about or command to observe this day? No! Did the apostles in their writings ever teach or command to observe this day? No!

Give me book, chapter and verse within context in Yahweh's word where Yahweh ever commands this day to be observed.
Outside of Yahweh's word is the doctrines of men and demons. I do not care what denomination you are from as all denominations have their man made doctrines.

Do not add to Yahweh's word and do not take away from Yahweh's word. This are Yahweh's words not mine.
Yeshua Himself quoting Deut says man shall not live by bread alone but by every word of Yahweh. I don't know about you but I want to live. Only stick to what is written and within context. Not the context of a denomination or men's doctrines. It is not that hard. Stick to what is written.
Look at the fruits. The fruits of halloween are all in the flesh it is all about you, teaching kids about fulfilling the flesh i.e. candy, dressing up etc it is all about self.
Yahweh's ways of worship are ALWAYS about Him and worshipping Him, honoring Him, glorifying Him, lifting up and acknowledging His name. Not about us and what we can get, or how we look, or about our gratification. Is any thought given to Yahweh at all on this disgusting abominable day?

Shalom

Sure but did God tell you to buy groceries from a grocery store? Probably not. Did God tell you to use a computer to get online and join a forum? Probably not. There are many things God did not tell you to do in the bible that we must do today. Times have changed and we must change with them. In a good way and Godly way of course.

 

[Ancient]

Yeah, but once it's past, it's time to think about Santa Claus! Lol

Haha Ohhh noooo! We are so lost as a society and culture.

Shalom

 

[Truman]

Haha Ohhh noooo! We are so lost as a society and culture.

Shalom

Shalom